quadsas wrote:
lynch marcovdw

Empty and infrequent posts (seriously, they all say nothing), tried to fabricate heat on me for seemingly no reason, which is the biggest redflag. jseadog pointing out croatia's vote had some merit, whilst all marco did was basically make shit up to make me look scummy.

knockout wrote:

(& others)

Fully agree on his posts being empty and infrequent and fully agree that a couple of them looked terrible. But were they scummy?

To me he looks like he didnt even try to make himself look innocent imo (which should be in everyones interest but townies often are not as obsessed with that) and i also cant see any sort of agenda in his posts. neither on day 1 when it was between me/trek/waghlon nor on day 2 where it is mostly about croatia/jdog/bbl

His thoughts about you were because of being pushed by me and it doesnt look like he wants to push towards a lynch on you or anything like that. Assuming he is mafia, what would be the conclusions youd draw from it. That everyone who was in danger on day 1 or 2 is leaning protown? That the mafias game plan seems to be to seperate and just try to survive alone somehow without influencing the hunt too much?

knockout wrote:
Are you there close to the deadline? If so Id suggest to vote jdog for now if he is your main suspect right now. There was enough action and doubt surrounding him that a lynch on him is not impossible and multiple votes are yet to be cast. You can still change back to marco closer to the end.

quadsas wrote:
Why are you trying to get jseadog lynched instead of marco? youre not voting for either of them

knockout wrote:
I had less time today than i thought so i probably wont get around to look into kandes+bikex+hillis in more detail (but they dont seem to be in too much danger today anway) where i dont have much of a read yet but would fit into the category of guys that I'd like to see more.

It's time to cast my lynch vote:

Lynch Croatia

A couple of factors come together:
- his inactivity until under doubt on day 1
- the nightkill
- his confrontation with bbl (while still having jdog as his main vote)
- the way the town drifted towards marco in the second half of the day who seems like a too easy misslynch candidate if a mafia member would be in trouble

[Note: I wrote this post before the recent posts by df and marco and was trying to see if i missed sth]

knockout wrote:
@marco

Who would be your preferred lynch?

Croatia14 wrote:
okay right now we have only 3 lynch votes after 48 hours, which is pretty much
unacceptable - if everybody would at least place a lynch vote on their highest suspicion we can prevent the mafia from playing the waiting game right now and just keeping out - let us pressure them a bit at least to have some action

right now we have bbl & jseadog voting on me and me voting on jdog

I have to admit that the degree of involvement by bbl was a risky move if he would be mafia so that slightly lowers my suspicion on him - he also tried to bring up arguments

on the other side I still see jseadog as the prime target, mostly due to his reaction to the post

alongside him Marco tops my list, as I can't find anything new/analytic in his posts and they seem like alibi activity - combined with my impression on day 1 he is somebody I'd consider lynching

Bikex wrote:
To be honest knockout this is a very surprising (and suspicious move). It seems a lot like you are trying to take the chance to get rid of a player you fear from a mafia point of view.
Looking at your previous posts, I didn't think you would pick Croatia to be lynched.
Why wait so long for your vote? It's easy to do it now when you know Croatia will not come back to defend himself until the deadline. Why do you want to save Marco at the cost of someone who didn't seem like someone of your main suspects? Are you that confident Marco is not mafia? Why?

At this point, I'd say it is not unlikely that knockout is a mafia member. Which would mean Croatia clearly isn't. So between him and marco I will keep my vote on Marco for whom nothing really has changed in the meantime.
However, on the next day we will definitely need to discuss knockout's actions. Hoping I will survive the night, I will go back and take a closer look at his posts.

baseballlover312 wrote:


I mean, I know I'm agreeing with you here and everything, but after your usual analysis, and your huge post about the first day, this is a little underwhelming in the elaboration department. I have some questions if you don't mind.

What exactly about the night kill makes you suspicious? That sammy accused Croatia, or do you think it's more complex?

There's the obvious confrontation, with me, and you're using that as a plus. Does that mean you agree with my points, or just that you think his arguing with me while targeting jdog instead is suspicious (perhaps Croatia think jdog has a power role?) Obviously you voted against Waghlon too, and Croatia's vote on him with little explanation was much of my original suspicion.

I agree Marco is an easy target, and I'm certainly not convinced he's guilty either. I also think the switch to Marcovdw with Jdog as enemy number one is weird. Do you think this implicates others who started and/or jumped on that train?

Marcovdw wrote:


If I had free choice I would've lynched jseadog1 I think, for his "I'm leaving the site if you vote me" post. Not that I want him to leave the site but in general that is very bad thing to play at since at that point he was not really in danger of getting lynched yet (?). I get the idea that someone doesn't want to get lynched (look at me) but making threats only makes it worse.

Though Croatia14 also had some suspicion in my book, so I'm not lynching someone who I fully believe to be town just so I can save myself.

Bikex wrote:

Well your posts were weak and short. There were not much arguments I could disagree with or not like so the last part of this quote is a ridiculous thing to say.
Where is your promised lynch vote?