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MG New Riders Suggestions [2019]
whitejersey
SotD wrote:
I would really like Vingegaard to be changed into a climber rather than puncheur. Also I believe he should be maxing at 78 MO as the biggest Danish climbing prospect.


He also has one of the highest Vo2 maxes ever seen in Danish cycling so you could make an argument for him to be 78 MO with some absolutely fucked up backup stats.
 
Atlantius
Great job jph!

As for Hänninen I really think he deserves a half-decent TT, say maxing out at 73/74. Several decent TT-results in France last season as well as being former Finnish junior and U23 TT-champ..
It's not his biggest weapon, but he's not losing races there either.
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ryant
Ok so I'll give this a go:

Matthew Gibson 1996 - Already in the DB but is completely useless, think he can do with a solid upgrade. His results include a couple stage wins, including one recently in the Tour of Qinghai Lake and another stage win in the Tour de l'Avenir. Therefore I think he should become a solid sprinter but obviously far from a top tier one.
IDLast nameFirst nameFlatMoHlTTStaResRecCoSprAccFigDhProTeamDivisionCountryContinentXP LevelXP PointsAgePotential
5168GibsonMatthew56565865565663625662616460Free Agent-GBREU10224
5168GibsonMatthew64566065636164607071616460Free Agent-GBREU10224
5168GibsonMatthew71566165686276657778616560Free Agent-GBREU4100224

All Sprinter training done

Stephen Williams 1996 - Also in the database, but also possible to suggest an upgrade. Showed some decent potential in the U23 scene in 2018. 9th in LBL U23, winning Ronde d'Isard and a solid U23 Giro as well (with a stage win). He seems to be able to climb mountains quite well but his main ability should be as a puncheur, with a decent prologue result as well, maybe he should have ~70 in Prologue. I also changed his pot to pot 4 as well (from 3)

IDLast nameFirst nameFlatMoHlTTStaResRecCoSprAccFigDhProTeamDivisionCountryContinentXP LevelXP PointsAgePotential
3348WilliamsStephen57586464655961636464605559Free Agent-GBREU10223
3348WilliamsStephen64757864747073606570686170Free Agent-GBREU4100224
3348WilliamsStephen61727063676670606465636069Free Agent-GBREU10224

I'd want him to look like that above fully trained using just hills (from exp lvl 1) but then you can possibly train him using Stage Race to get this:

IDLast nameFirst nameFlatMoHlTTStaResRecCoSprAccFigDhProTeamDivisionCountryContinentXP LevelXP PointsAgePotential
3348WilliamsStephen62797570727177606466646076Free Agent-GBREU4100224


This is unintended and I think something the hill stage racer training (don't know what that would be) would do nicely here.

Results:
https://www.girodi...tappa-7-2/ won this stage
https://www.girodi...t/tappa-5/ 2nd place here
https://www.ronde-.../#parcours Stages 1 and 2 here of the Ronde d'Isard
Looking forward to people nerfing the last one especially - will look to suggest some more as well
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liefwarrior
Not being a member of Man-Game, as well as being relatively new to PCM and cycling in general, these may be a bit off, but I have a few suggestions for bringing a large amount of Danish riders up to a level where they might be worth signing.
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CyclistIDLast nameFirst nameFLMOHLTTStaResRecCobSprAccFigDHPRLNat.Con.XP LvlXP PtsD.M.YearPot.
288StokbroAndreas64515958656557686367636150DENEU108419975
288StokbroAndreas71516058726961757172646250DENEU41008419975CobSpr
3282Norsgaard JørgensenMathias66606271646860625765555968DENEU105519973
3282Norsgaard JørgensenMathias71606378697565625765585975DENEU41005519973TT
5247PallesenJeppe65685764656966515362676563DENEU1017719973
5247PallesenJeppe66755864697670515366717463DENEU410017719973Climberv2
551WallinRasmus59575956626653547069655854DENEU102119964
551WallinRasmus66576057637157547776655961DENEU41002119964Sprinter
1316KlarisMagnus67566360666864576868606460DENEU1023119964
1316KlarisMagnus74566460716972627575606560DENEU410023119964Sprinter
6358PedersenCasper66576868636665556064646065DENEU1015319965
6358PedersenCasper69607669717069556371706166DENEU410015319965Hills
5556VingegaardJonas60696967686865585567576666DENEU1010121996
5556VingegaardJonas63787474757574585570586773DENEU410010121996 5Stage
8133Moltke SteenNikolaj65616660686557545363746759DENEU10411995
8133Moltke SteenNikolaj66647360736860545468796859DENEU41004119952Hills
577VinjeboEmil62597172636962525165646662DENEU202431994
577VinjeboEmil66597278667368525165676668DENEU410024319943TT
577VinjeboEmil63627572687165525269686662DENEU410024319943Hills
5882ChristiansenSteffen Munk66576355526665557174656567DENEU202111994
5882ChristiansenSteffen Munk70576455537074557780656571DENEU410021119943Track-Sprint

 
jaxika
This is my first time to propose riders for MG, so forgive me if i made mistakes.

Maybe this year is when some hungarian talents stepped up and the hungarian cyclings future is bright (add to this the new hungarian PCT team as roumour and the Giro start as fact).

PeákBarnabás70646966696865627173646768HUNEU1029119985
PeákBarnabás77647067727577628080646875HUNEU410029119985


Barnabás is mainly a sprinter but good at short TTs and have trained with Track-Sprint.

5980PelikanJanos69676870706666566170716369HUNEU2019419954
5980PelikanJanos69676870706666566870736369HUNEU1019419955
5980PelikanJanos76687179767373566870786478HUNEU410019419955


Janos is already in the DB but he can be better than that. Trained with Time Trial.

SzarkaGergely70626660706865607171646565HUNEU1029119984
SzarkaGergely77626760756977657878646665HUNEU410029119984


Gergely is the recent Hungarian RR champion, fun fact he is beated Barnabás, who i think is a lot better then him. Trained as Sprinter.

ValterAttila72717269696869637072646968HUNEU1012619986
ValterAttila75758170777273637380717269HUNEU1012619986



And the possible future star for Hungary is Attila, who is good almost in every terrain, but maybe excells best in the hilly or sprint-hilly races. Trained in Hills.

The another hope is Duna Marton but being in a team, i dont touch him.
 
roturn
As it has happened quite a lot in this thread.

1998 riders will only be added in excemptions. No need to post too many of them really.

And also riders which have a 2018 team and are neither free agents or not in the DB, won`t get a change. Saw lots of stat suggestions for riders signed already.
 
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hillis91
@roturn: Will you post a list of names that gets added when that descision is made?
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hillis91
@roturn: Will you post a list of names that gets added when that descision is made?
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whitejersey
You will just have to look through the post renewals/transfers DB Pfft
 
roturn
No.

As usual there will be a new excel DB file, where everyone can look for new additions.
(Not that difficult usually with filter and so)

I can already say though that some rider suggestions won`t happen such as Fuglsang or Mollema. They have MG history with those stats and won`t get changed to RL stats. There are other riders such as Guldhammer or Olivier/Goos for those in the MG world.
 
sammyt93
roturn wrote:
No.

As usual there will be a new excel DB file, where everyone can look for new additions.
(Not that difficult usually with filter and so)

I can already say though that some rider suggestions won`t happen such as Fuglsang or Mollema. They have MG history with those stats and won`t get changed to RL stats. There are other riders such as Guldhammer or Olivier/Goos for those in the MG world.


Do we get a pre renewals DB with disbanding teams riders becoming free agents and all trainings/declines revealed or is the next DB going to be a Post renewals DB?
 
roturn
Yes, the next DB will be pre-renewals with stat increases/decreases, disbands and new additions.

There might come more additions afterwards if the process isn`t completely finished by then but the main overview will be final.
 
SotD
I think Vingegaard deserves som different stats than to what have been suggested so far. So this is my take:

5556VingegaardJonas56615964586261586564575957DENEU10101219965
5556VingegaardJonas68716967757567606668676867DENEU20101219965
5556VingegaardJonas68787668787775606674746968DENEU4100101219965
5556VingegaardJonas71747668827870606974716968DENEU4100101219965
5556VingegaardJonas71787373817973606669686973DENEU4100101219965


Developped by:
Climberv1
Hills
Stage Race
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Eden95
First suggestion dump:

Andreas Odie Purnama Setiawa 29/11/1996

65627069696765576168746569lvl 1
68657871767170576474786671Max

^^ combo of SR & hills.

Young, upcoming Indonesian puncheur that also performs very well in time trials. All in all, a very versatile rider. Pot 5

Dealton Nur Arif Prayogo 27/11/1992

73626775727369596464736475


Decent Indonesian time trialist, not much more to say besides he'd be maxed of course.

Daniel Habtemichael 1/10/1997

66707068706869525964666868lvl 2
67767668717173525970726969Max

^^ cl1 used
Young Eritrean mountain goat that's achieved some decent results this season after a good outing at the African cup last year. Pot 4

Muhammad Abdurrahman 16/05/1997

67697067706968556068716467lvl 1
70787574777475556069726574Max
70727868787372556375766568Max

^^ SR, Hill
Abdurrahman has achieved some great results in Asian races as a strong GC type leader. Good in the high mountains and he gets over the hills, and isn't afraid of an ITT. Has a decent kick and is very aggressive. Pot 5

Sandy Nur Hasan 31/05/1998

67606259686965557271736459lvl1
74606360707276557978736566Max

^^ spr and trspr combo

Results are difficult to gauge. Nur Hasan has a very strong finish and tends to find his way into quite a few breaks. Pot 4
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Eden95
Marcus Culey 25/11/93

73616465737271526566706565lvl 2
80616765777674526872776865Max

FTR^

Good old fashioned fighter-type that's achieved some great GC results in continental races as a result of his ability achieve good results on flat stages and undulating routes. Pot 5

Bilguunjargal Erdenebat 07/03/97

69596270727167515964646770lvl1
76606579777874515964696879Max

reg ITT^

One of the most promising young riders from Mongolia in a while, achieving some very respectable results in ITT's at u23 level. Pot 5

Muhsin Al Redha Misbah 23/07/1997

68626971706866546064656371lvl1
75637278757571546064706378Max
71657772777274546169706472Max


ITT^, Hill^

Current Malaysian ITT champ, also achieving great results in Asian continental races. Performs very well over hilly terrain, and thus could be trained TT and/or hills. Pot 4
Edited by Eden95 on 09-08-2019 05:33
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Bikex
Looked these riders up last week already, one is by now already proposed by Eden but still decided to leave him in.

ManoYuttana71687072676867626067687270THAAS1026319974
PCS72757579727374626068697277
72757772687272626074757370
74717873747270626172737371
78697379727572626067737277
1027PerezDominic69627063687071627576687365PHIAS4011019944
PCS71627063697075637778687365
SiddikovDilmurdjon68626468697067666566757168UZBAS1023819975
PCS75636777747774666566807277
75626575767570746567767275
MedvedevSergey73606369757472676866766569UZBAS3014119955
PCS78606569787773687070816769
77606469797773727267776669
77616574787874676866796674
77606474787774677168766674
270PengYuan Tang74596471727272737173636771TPEAS4010519936
PCS76596571747473757373636771
76596473747474737274636773
76596573747473757173636773
SetiawanAndreas Odie72626271687171636161706571INAAS20291119963
PCS76626377727775636161736577
665GaniAbdul75616765757365677577606668INAAS408819922
PCS76616765767366687778606668
SuonPanha67696563666967576268756662CAMAS10141019962
PCS67766963677372576273796662
5160ChenMingrun68696862666670566566556262CHNAS1017819964
PCS69767562677075566573626362
71727663737073566671606363
NiuYikui71737067746874567372727067CHNAS402819945
PCS71757267756976567374747067
71757167767075567373737267
73737067766979577574727067


Mano: Only Thai rider I found worth suggesting, has some decent results in various Asian TT championships and also has proven he can be decent over more challenging terrains. The suggested strength doesn't really display his real abilities, but more my wish of how he'll be added. Pfft
Perez: Should be upgraded from the lvl1 rider he is now in the db. Has quite a few decent sprint results, but also shown he has the ability to go over rougher terrain.
Siddikov: Uzbekistan should get some useful additions. Siddikov was 2nd in TT and RR NCs this season. I suggest him as timetrialer, that could potentially also be trained into a decent flandrien rider.
Medvedev: Another Uzbeki. Not really great results, but usually isn't dropped in flat races.
Peng: Rides for a Slovenian CT team, has various decent results including mass sprints, time trials and even a cobbled race. Currently his name is written wrong in the db.
Setiawan: Eden covered him already
Gani: Deserves an upgrade. Last years Indonesian champion in a sprint and also some other top 10s in sprint races.
Suon: Not many results, but wanted to suggest a Cambodian rider.
Chen: Some good results, could be changed to my suggested stats.
Niu: Even if not shown on procyclingstats, he is last years Chinese champion, where he won in a sprint in a mountainous area. Thought it could be interesting to add a rider with the stat combo of climbing and sprinting.
 
cio93
I won't be home for a week so can't stat him myself if it needs to be done by then, but I haven't seen Kevin Inkelaar mentioned here yet.

Dutch, '97, seems to be a pure climber, at least there are no TT results to his name in the slightest so far.
Best climber in Valle d'Aosta '19 (was already second last year), third overall there was only because a freak stage 1 took him out of contention. Fourth in Alsace just last week.

Maybe a candidate for an Alarcon type?
 
Scorchio
Others have already been identifying potential stat blocks for the main Colombian contingent of young riders, Bernal, Sosa, Higuita, et al., so I thought I'd cast a wee bit wider net.

First though suggestion of an upgrade to a young Colombian already in the DB (ID # 284) Miguel Eduardo Florez. Assume was added as a place holder (Like Bernal, Higuita, etc.). Now 3rd year at PCT level, and made it round the Giro this season. Numerous good GC results in terms of young rider jersey (top 3 this season in 2.1 Tour of Alps + Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali, similarly last season in Burgos , Limousin and San Juan stage races). Suggesting starting at lvl 2 as already 23, and GT under his belt.

NameFlMoHiTTStaResRecCobSpAccFiDhProDoBNatPotLvl
Miguel Eduardo Florez6670696765697055636866686621/02/96COL42.0
Stage Race67767373697376556369676872
https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider...rdo-florez

Premium Venezuelan riders like Alarcon and Monsalve are hitting 30+, and there is a dearth of MG representation of decent u25 riders from this nation. Of the current crop, Orluis Aular is quite a phenomenon, winning 5(!) stages in a row of the recent Veulta Venezuela, GC, Kom + Pts. Also won a 2.2stage race in Japan, and 2nd in another this season. If he doesn't fall foul of targetted d*pe testing assume should be on WT teams radar IRL. As he is 23 and already has a string of decent results to his name (ranked 250th in UCI rankings on a diet of 2.2 stage races), suggest starting at lvl 2.

NameFlMoHiTTStaResRecCobSpAccFiDhProDoBNatPotLvl
Orluis Aular687171647270705263676570675/11/96VEN42.0
Climber v169777764737374526373717167
https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider...luis-aular

The only other young rider of much note in Venezuela appears to be Jesus Villegas, RR NC at 22. Not too many other significant results on file.

NameFlMoHiTTStaResRecCobSpAccFiDhProDoBNatPotLvl
Jesus Villegas6668676767686855616863656720/3/97VEN41.0
Stage Race67757274727375556169646574
https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider...s-villegas

Similar story in Brazil, although IRL high quality talent is not in abundance. Previous U23 TT and now senior TT champ is Andre Eduardo Gohr - given SA continent in MG lacks many decent TT riders (and his countryman Nascimento the one recognised TT specialist is already in decline), suggest as potential balance.

NameFlMoHiTTStaResRecCobSpAccFiDhProDoBNatPotLvl
Andre Eduardo Gohr6763667168656755667066717115/08/96BRA42.0
Time Trial73646977727171556670707177
Track-TT73636777727071557073667177
https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider...uardo-gohr

Final suggestion (for now at any rate) is Moroccan U23 and senior TT champ El Mehdi Chokri who has ridden for the past 3 seasons for the Dimension Data CT team. Steady results, without too many stand outs (best being stage victory (lone break) and 7th GC in home Tour du Maroc this year (1st young jersey)). Thought might be interesting to suggest a rider who would suit the 'Fabian' training option (although still only domestique level rather than a future star given this dude's results are fairly average). To be honest, no real justification due to his results, a purely fun proposal!.
NameFlMoHiTTStaResRecCobSpAccFiDhProDoBNatPotLvl
El Mehdi Chokri6965666867676468656765686923/01/97MOR51.0
Fabian74656773727267756568666874
https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider.../el-chokri


[NOTE: Just realised Chokri already in DB as ID# 2071 as a place holder]
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fintas
I would like to get some Portuguese cyclists to be added to the DB, but not being a stats expert I would like to know if anyone could do it for me. I give the names and if anyone can mess up the stats better.

João Rodrigues 15/11/1994

João has evolved over the last few years and this year seems to be emerging for a good career. He just won the Volta a Portugal where he got 2 stage wins, winning at Alto da Torre in the queen stage and also winning the final TT.
In addition this year also won the Volta ao Alentejo and was 9th in Volta ao Algarve.

https://www.procy...igues/2019
https://firstcycl...hp?r=18601

João Almeida 05/08/1998

Current U23 national champion in both RR and TT, although very young he already has some good results in his record.
LBL U23 winner in 2018, year in which he also finished 2nd in Giro U23, 7th in Tour de l'Avenir and 13th in Grand Prix de Wallonie.
Together with the twins Oliveira is one of the promises of Portuguese cycling

https://www.procy...meida/2019
https://firstcycl...hp?r=50303

If anyone can help with the stats for both I would appreciate it very much
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roturn
Have added quite a lot of riders by now as also have done stat decreases and stat gains.

So basically we could start with the renewals now. But 2 more things to do:

1) Remaining 3-4 teams need to send me their stat gain choices
2) Need to make the DB excel ready without all the extra formulas.

While 2) is probably a thing of couple of minutes, 1) really should have happened by now.
Always possible to start with all other teams but it`s just extra work for me to re-arrange it afterwards, so not really a fan of it.
 
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