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| Selwink |
Posted on 03-10-2017 13:49
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I hate to start with actual news, but well, the Rumsas saga has a new chapter
www.cyclingnews.c...
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 03-10-2017 19:38
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Haha really changes how I see it when every MG manager starts their HQ intro of him with "trying to leave behind his dad's doping" or similar 
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 03-10-2017 20:38
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Moscon just keeps getting nicer and nicer 
Apparently he is to blame for Reichenbach's crash in Tre Valli.
Moscon having a great season, after being a racists and a cheat 
Article: in Dutch
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 03-10-2017 21:24
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Another disgraceful decision by UCI as they suspended Pirazzi for 4 (!) years. Way too long.
https://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/03-10...3893.shtml
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| Shonak |
Posted on 03-10-2017 21:45
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No, it's the new rules for some years now.
• Four year bans for a first intentional ADRV for presence, use, attempted use or possession of a prohibited substance or prohibited method (this applies to serious doping substances such as steroids, growth hormone, EPO, blood doping);
https://www.uci.ch...rocedures/
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 04-10-2017 08:54
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Shonak wrote:
No, it's the new rules for some years now.
• Four year bans for a first intentional ADRV for presence, use, attempted use or possession of a prohibited substance or prohibited method (this applies to serious doping substances such as steroids, growth hormone, EPO, blood doping);
https://www.uci.ch...rocedures/
this, thank you Shonak!
In other terms: Moscon already got the most hated rider award in the peloton, having his third major incident caused this year. Sadly he's grown into a complete asshole being such a brilliant rider.
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 04-10-2017 08:54
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Shonak wrote:
No, it's the new rules for some years now.
• Four year bans for a first intentional ADRV for presence, use, attempted use or possession of a prohibited substance or prohibited method (this applies to serious doping substances such as steroids, growth hormone, EPO, blood doping);
https://www.uci.ch...rocedures/
this, thank you Shonak!
In other terms: Moscon already got the most hated rider award in the peloton, having his third major incident caused this year. Sadly he's grown into a complete asshole being such a brilliant rider.
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| matt17br |
Posted on 04-10-2017 13:01
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Jeez guys cut Moscon some slack Looks like it just takes a few episodes to be seen as a complete asshole here.
In both the Réza incident and this one with Reichenbach we've only heard one side of the story. I know this is controversial, I'm not condoning racist slurs or anything, but it's stuff that can happen in the heat of the moment when you grow up in a place where casual racism is as prevalent as Northern Italy. He's 23 and not a fully mature adult yet, he'll learn to know better.
As for Reichenbach, I'm not coming to any conclusions and neither should you. The guy was the one to tweet about Réza's controversy and clearly doesn't get along with Moscon at all. I wouldn't be surprised if he was looking for a way to blame him, but as I said I'm not taking any sides on this just yet because there's just not enough evidence of anything, except for maybe a couple of interviews and tweets. There's clearly a difference between something that happens accidentally and something that a rider does to another on purpose.
The worlds cheating was obviously something that shouldn't have happened, but he was pretty much pressured to hold onto that sticky bottle by Cassani according to the man himself... Again, it's definitely something that he should have avoided, but he's on his second year as a pro and is very likely facing a lot of pressure. I'm sure he's going to mature as a person, but unfortunately this kind of controversy tarnishes your reputation as a rider forever, in the eyes of the fans.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 04-10-2017 13:20
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Hmm, I doubt it Matt. If you're tweeting the accusation with the team's official Twitter account, you have to be pretty darn sure of yourself. I don't think I've seen many other cases where another rider is named and shamed like this.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 04-10-2017 13:21
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matt17br wrote:
Jeez guys cut Moscon some slack Looks like it just takes a few episodes to be seen as a complete asshole here.
In both the Réza incident and this one with Reichenbach we've only heard one side of the story. I know this is controversial, I'm not condoning racist slurs or anything, but it's stuff that can happen in the heat of the moment when you grow up in a place where casual racism is as prevalent as Northern Italy. He's 23 and not a fully mature adult yet, he'll learn to know better.
As for Reichenbach, I'm not coming to any conclusions and neither should you. The guy was the one to tweet about Réza's controversy and clearly doesn't get along with Moscon at all. I wouldn't be surprised if he was looking for a way to blame him, but as I said I'm not taking any sides on this just yet because there's just not enough evidence of anything, except for maybe a couple of interviews and tweets. There's clearly a difference between something that happens accidentally and something that a rider does to another on purpose.
The worlds cheating was obviously something that shouldn't have happened, but he was pretty much pressured to hold onto that sticky bottle by Cassani according to the man himself... Again, it's definitely something that he should have avoided, but he's on his second year as a pro and is very likely facing a lot of pressure. I'm sure he's going to mature as a person, but unfortunately this kind of controversy tarnishes your reputation as a rider forever, in the eyes of the fans.
He's 23, not 13. He's a grown man. He doesn't have some teen angst or something, and he's had all the schooling he needs. This won't just go away because he's a kid. He's not a kid.
Yes, we've only heard one side of these stories, which does make bias evident, but I get the feeling that if he was actually in the right here, he would have already shared his sides. The fact that he hasn't means nothing good could come of it.
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 04-10-2017 16:56
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Ollfardh wrote:
Hmm, I doubt it Matt. If you're tweeting the accusation with the team's official Twitter account, you have to be pretty darn sure of yourself. I don't think I've seen many other cases where another rider is named and shamed like this.
Not really giving an opinion about this topic, but given the incident earlier this season with Reza, I wouldn't be surprised if FDJ made a negative or blameful sentence towards Moscon, even if he did it deliberately or not. Which, if it happens not to be true, would be unethical, but sometimes it's pushed aside in sports. |
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 05-10-2017 10:31
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BMC terminate contract with Samuel Sanchez after positive B sample confirmed
https://trib.al/hJuEESU
I can almost hear the hearts breaking!
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 05-10-2017 10:41
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no no Samu no not like this 
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 05-10-2017 10:50
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That was expected. I honestly think he is not the only one, but due to cycling's bad image already, not every test is revealed. Unless my memory is failing, the last time a GC contender was "caught" was AC. And that was a looooooong time ago. |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 07-10-2017 10:49
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What about André Cardoso? He requested a B sample back in June and no word has been given about that ever since. Samu’s was rocket quick. A shame regarding that, from hero to zero... |
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Posted on 07-10-2017 16:02
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FreitasPCM wrote:
What about André Cardoso? He requested a B sample back in June and no word has been given about that ever since. Samu’s was rocket quick. A shame regarding that, from hero to zero... There are rumours that his B sample is negative.
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 07-10-2017 21:37
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https://www.stickybottle.com/latest-ne...inreaction
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 09-10-2017 20:27
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https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/signi...de-france/
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Seriously though no matter if this choice ends up being good or bad good to see he's doing well and is eager to get back out there 
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Shonak |
Posted on 09-10-2017 20:29
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Valverde in Giro is great news, he was so much fun 2016. I actually think he's well within a shot of winning if he finds his magic 2017 form again.
Plus, I want to see Valv at his best in Innsbruck. I'll take any schedule for that.
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 09-10-2017 20:43
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Shonak wrote:
Valverde in Giro is great news, he was so much fun 2016. I actually think he's well within a shot of winning if he finds his magic 2017 form again.
Plus, I want to see Valv at his best in Innsbruck. I'll take any schedule for that.
That's true and I could see him in the fight again at top form. Just remember that despite his awesomeness on the medium mountain and some mountain days he seemed to struggle with the high altitude stuff, hope it wouldn't be too bad.
And it would make Innsbruck be at a better time, after an amazing Vuelta form peak instead of after a two GT run with little break. So definitely could be a blessing in disguise and obviously Innsbruck's the big one
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
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