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Tour de France 2017 | Stage 4 | Mondorf - Le -Bains - Vittel
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:25
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I love Sagan but what he did was wrong, I think if he doesnt put his elbow out he gets away with it. 100% DQ.
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:26
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Cav is 100% at fault here himself.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:27
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Ste117 wrote:
I love Sagan but what he did was wrong, I think if he doesnt put his elbow out he gets away with it. 100% DQ.
Funnily enough, the elbow has nothing to do with the crash though.
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:29
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cio93 wrote:
Ste117 wrote:
I love Sagan but what he did was wrong, I think if he doesnt put his elbow out he gets away with it. 100% DQ.
Funnily enough, the elbow has nothing to do with the crash though.
Intent though, he didnt need to have his elbow out, so if Cav had survived the initial contact he would have been brought down by the elbow, even so it a was a bit of dangerous side from Sagan, he got a careless
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| Thatguyeveryonehates |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:29
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laura meseguer interview with a tour pr officer
he says there are aggravating circumstances that lead to the dq
sagan tried to do the same thing to greipel yesterday in the intermediate sprint |
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| whitejersey |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:29
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Pathetic from ASO holy shit.
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:30
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DQ or not, Cav on Veelers on 2013 looks a lot more faulty, and nothing happened
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| lakebeach |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:31
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Thatguyeveryonehates wrote:
laura meseguer interview with a tour pr officer
he says there are aggravating circumstances that lead to the dq
sagan tried to do the same thing to greipel yesterday in the intermediate sprint
The same thing? What same thing? He didn't do anything wrong today.
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| Omloop |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:32
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This reminds of a football match where a whole team runs after the referee to influence his decision. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:33
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Wow. I get the sprint penalties and stuff but I didn't think they'd send him home for that. They've allowed worse in the past.
Regardless, looks like we'll finally have a new green jersey.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:35
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Ste117 wrote:
cio93 wrote:
Ste117 wrote:
I love Sagan but what he did was wrong, I think if he doesnt put his elbow out he gets away with it. 100% DQ.
Funnily enough, the elbow has nothing to do with the crash though.
Intent though, he didnt need to have his elbow out, so if Cav had survived the initial contact he would have been brought down by the elbow, even so it a was a bit of dangerous side from Sagan, he got a careless
Intent to stay upright imo.
We all seem to forget this happened in some hundredths of a second. The "I don't want to crash" reflex is much quicker than the "I want you to crash" thought.
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:36
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Dimension Data complained again after the first penalty and Sagan has been DQ.
Remember, the same Dimension Data which is an official sponsor of the race
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| Thatguyeveryonehates |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:36
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lakebeach wrote:
Thatguyeveryonehates wrote:
laura meseguer interview with a tour pr officer
he says there are aggravating circumstances that lead to the dq
sagan tried to do the same thing to greipel yesterday in the intermediate sprint
The same thing? What same thing? He didn't do anything wrong today.
https://twitter.c...1185642496
he doesnt even try to follow demare instead he waits for cavendish |
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| MrUfo87 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:36
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A penalty would've been acceptable, but sending him home is complete bullshit. For example: Cavendish - Veelers accident in 2013, Cavendish drove him off his bike and the jury said it was Veelers own fault. Besides, Sagan has barely done something wrong in races, while Cavendish is a bomb who drives half the peloton off its bike.
Check out this image:
MrUfo87 attached the following image:
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| cio93 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:37
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Thatguyeveryonehates wrote:
laura meseguer interview with a tour pr officer
he says there are aggravating circumstances that lead to the dq
sagan tried to do the same thing to greipel yesterday in the intermediate sprint
10.1.Deviating from selected lane, endangering
other riders
1st offence: relegation to the last place in his group, point
classification penalty equal to the points awarded to the first
place of the stage, 200 + 30’’ in general class.
2nd offence: relegation to last place in the stage, point
classification penalty equal to the points awarded to the first
place of the stage, 200 + 1’ in general class.
3rd offence: elimination + 200
So they found 3 offences at once?
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| Luxemburger |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:37
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I am surprised that they actually disqualified Sagan, especially as I also think that this was an overreaction. I think he should be punished, but that is too harsh.
I'm not one of he conspiracionists who think they only disqualified him because Demare wears green now, but looks good for him now - and bad for the ASO that it looks like that.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:38
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Wow heli shot makes it clear as daylight.
Before I get hated on, DQ is still too hars. But alas, you give some you get some.
Edited by Shonak on 04-07-2017 18:38
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:38
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So he did cause the 1st crash lol
video: https://u.nya.is/...
Edited by Kirchen_75 on 04-07-2017 18:41
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| Shonak |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:40
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Omloop wrote:
This reminds of a football match where a whole team runs after the referee to influence his decision.
Pretty fitting description 
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 04-07-2017 18:40
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Cavendish made the initial contact with his head on Sagan's hip, trying to force a non-eexistant gap. Cav and Sagan both lose balance, Sagan puts out his elbow and knee, Cav finds the barrier. No contact after the first made by Cavenshit. Cavenshit should be penalized for endangering Degenkolb and Swift (and all others).
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