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Ronde van Vlaanderen 2017 ll Vlaanderens mooiste
Riis123
Well the future isn't now considering he isn't riding...

Apparently no Roubaix for Phil, thats too bad, all in for Boonen.

*** Boonen, Degenkolb
** Naesen, Sagan, GVA, Terpstra
* Kristoff, Demare, Boasson, Baarle, Stybar, Stannard
 
Spilak23
What has Degenkolb done to be 3 star favourite?
 
Riis123
Spilak23 wrote:
What has Degenkolb done to be 3 star favourite?

Won Roubaix in 2015 Pfft

I just believe in him in Roubaix for some reason.
 
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Shonak
Degenstache looked pretty aware in the classics campaign, just lacking the timing and probably the power for constant position fights I reckon.

Boonen for Roubaix #5 would be super sweet. Also ofc, still hoping Greg can get his first monument win, finally.
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Riis123
Boonen is riding Crashprijs tho..
 
Strydz
Spilak23 wrote:
What has Degenkolb done to be 3 star favourite?


Degenkolb has looked good so far and we know that Roubaix suits him a hell of alot more that De Ronde
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
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Strydz
Spilak23 wrote:
What has Degenkolb done to be 3 star favourite?


Degenkolb has looked good so far and we know that Roubaix suits him a hell of alot more that De Ronde
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/
 
niini
Its funny. Sagan behaves like moron for one week of his career and he is already most hated person here and public enemy number 1 while riders like terpstra, cavendish and bouhani have almost fanclubs here Smile .
 
Avin Wargunnson
niini wrote:
Its funny. Sagan behaves like moron for one week of his career and he is already most hated person here and public enemy number 1 while riders like terpstra, cavendish and bouhani have almost fanclubs here Smile .

Sad reality with current level of cycling discussions here...
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Avin Wargunnson
Riis123 wrote:
Well the future isn't now considering he isn't riding...

Apparently no Roubaix for Phil, thats too bad, all in for Boonen.

*** Boonen, Degenkolb
** Naesen, Sagan, GVA, Terpstra
* Kristoff, Demare, Boasson, Baarle, Stybar, Stannard


LOL, nice table. :lol:
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Forever the Best
niini wrote:
Its funny. Sagan behaves like moron for one week of his career and he is already most hated person here and public enemy number 1 while riders like terpstra, cavendish and bouhani have almost fanclubs here Smile .

Which week? The pinching he did to a podium girl in 2013 Ronde? (he also attaempted to the same that year in E3)
Or the thing what he did to Vantomme in this years GW?
I hoped Sagan would learn from his mistakes (i.e. not doing any childish, bad things) but it looks like he still hasn't learned.
And he fell in RVV because he rode too close to the barriers. He took risk and failed. He risked a good result for the win by doing that on Kwaremont, which I can only applaud. But when he fails after riding very close to the bearriers he has only himself to blame. And he only blamed himself, which is a good thing.
 
Ollfardh
Every rider has his bad moments, for Sagan it's just a few in short succession so people talk about it. I think everyone still respects the rider Sagan, but the person Sagan got damaged here. I'd still take Sagan above Bouhanni or Terpstra though.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
Strydz
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
niini wrote:
Its funny. Sagan behaves like moron for one week of his career and he is already most hated person here and public enemy number 1 while riders like terpstra, cavendish and bouhani have almost fanclubs here Smile .

Sad reality with current level of cycling discussions here...


Discussion around here isn't as much fun as it used to be
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/
 
Riis123
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Well the future isn't now considering he isn't riding...

Apparently no Roubaix for Phil, thats too bad, all in for Boonen.

*** Boonen, Degenkolb
** Naesen, Sagan, GVA, Terpstra
* Kristoff, Demare, Boasson, Baarle, Stybar, Stannard


LOL, nice table. :lol:

Resorting to childish behaviour instead of arguments now Avin? Must be tough on you Cool
 
Ollfardh
Riis123 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Well the future isn't now considering he isn't riding...

Apparently no Roubaix for Phil, thats too bad, all in for Boonen.

*** Boonen, Degenkolb
** Naesen, Sagan, GVA, Terpstra
* Kristoff, Demare, Boasson, Baarle, Stybar, Stannard


LOL, nice table. :lol:

Resorting to childish behaviour instead of arguments now Avin? Must be tough on you Cool


Well in al honesty, how can you not give max stars to Sagan and GVA?

But yeah, I get why people say it's less fun then it used to be. Admins allowed to much trolling from Arberg and a few others, now everyone thinks it's ok..
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
TheManxMissile
Ollfardh wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Well the future isn't now considering he isn't riding...

Apparently no Roubaix for Phil, thats too bad, all in for Boonen.

*** Boonen, Degenkolb
** Naesen, Sagan, GVA, Terpstra
* Kristoff, Demare, Boasson, Baarle, Stybar, Stannard


LOL, nice table. :lol:

Resorting to childish behaviour instead of arguments now Avin? Must be tough on you Cool


Well in al honesty, how can you not give max stars to Sagan and GVA?

But yeah, I get why people say it's less fun then it used to be. Admins allowed to much trolling from Arberg and a few others, now everyone thinks it's ok..


You want us to take action on "LOL, nice table :lol:"?
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Ollfardh
TheManxMissile wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Well the future isn't now considering he isn't riding...

Apparently no Roubaix for Phil, thats too bad, all in for Boonen.

*** Boonen, Degenkolb
** Naesen, Sagan, GVA, Terpstra
* Kristoff, Demare, Boasson, Baarle, Stybar, Stannard


LOL, nice table. :lol:

Resorting to childish behaviour instead of arguments now Avin? Must be tough on you Cool


Well in al honesty, how can you not give max stars to Sagan and GVA?

But yeah, I get why people say it's less fun then it used to be. Admins allowed to much trolling from Arberg and a few others, now everyone thinks it's ok..


You want us to take action on "LOL, nice table :lol:"?


No Smile
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
Avin Wargunnson
Riis123 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Well the future isn't now considering he isn't riding...

Apparently no Roubaix for Phil, thats too bad, all in for Boonen.

*** Boonen, Degenkolb
** Naesen, Sagan, GVA, Terpstra
* Kristoff, Demare, Boasson, Baarle, Stybar, Stannard


LOL, nice table. :lol:

Resorting to childish behaviour instead of arguments now Avin? Must be tough on you Cool


Trying to argue with you on normal basis is pointless, since you dont know what words like "objectivity" or "detached view" mean.

In this special case with your list, i dont see better way than i did to express my feelings about it. Listing Boonen and Degenkolb as only three star favourites for Roubaix17 would be a good joke, if you were joking. But you are not i suppose.

If you want to live in you bubble where all stages are hilly and Gaviria, Valverde or Boonen win everything, live there, i will laught at you from outside though. Grin
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Riis123
Ollfardh wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Well the future isn't now considering he isn't riding...

Apparently no Roubaix for Phil, thats too bad, all in for Boonen.

*** Boonen, Degenkolb
** Naesen, Sagan, GVA, Terpstra
* Kristoff, Demare, Boasson, Baarle, Stybar, Stannard


LOL, nice table. :lol:

Resorting to childish behaviour instead of arguments now Avin? Must be tough on you Cool


Well in al honesty, how can you not give max stars to Sagan and GVA?

But yeah, I get why people say it's less fun then it used to be. Admins allowed to much trolling from Arberg and a few others, now everyone thinks it's ok..


Because Roubaix is a completely different race the the flemish classics and RvV. I thought everyone were aware of that. But I guess people think cobbled classics and goes Sagan and GVA must be the favourites then.

Its for heavyish diesels and I think Degenkolb and Boonen are better suited to that. I don't think anyone unleashing them on flat cobbled secteurs.
 
Riis123
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Well the future isn't now considering he isn't riding...

Apparently no Roubaix for Phil, thats too bad, all in for Boonen.

*** Boonen, Degenkolb
** Naesen, Sagan, GVA, Terpstra
* Kristoff, Demare, Boasson, Baarle, Stybar, Stannard


LOL, nice table. :lol:

Resorting to childish behaviour instead of arguments now Avin? Must be tough on you Cool


Trying to argue with you on normal basis is pointless, since you dont know what words like "objectivity" or "detached view" mean.

In this special case with your list, i dont see better way than i did to express my feelings about it. Listing Boonen and Degenkolb as only three star favourites for Roubaix17 would be a good joke, if you were joking. But you are not i suppose.

If you want to live in you bubble where all stages are hilly and Gaviria, Valverde or Boonen win everything, live there, i will laught at you from outside though. Grin


These are the odds for Roubaix (which basically is the collective wisdom, so spare me from the 'bookies are clueless anyways'-arguments that Im pretty sure you will come up with:

Sagan 4,00
Boonen 5,50
Degenkolb 6,00
Avermaet 9,00
Kristoff 17,00
Terpstra 17,00
Stannard 19,00

That corresponds pretty well with my table, I'd say. Only i relegate Sagan to a 2 star favourite instead of 3 star favourite because I've never seen him do that well in Roubaix. I can elevate him to a 3 star favourite if it makes you feel better and you can stop acting like a spoiled child tho! Wink

Edit: And here's a link to the cyclingnews forum. You could sign up and mock everybody there as well who has Boonen and Degenkolb as the biggest favourites: https://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopi...;start=140
Edited by Riis123 on 05-04-2017 12:46
 
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