jpgm97 wrote:
Did he? If he crashed, I didn't knew anything about that. But yesterday we could only watch the last 40km or less, and there is nothing on the live feed. I only knew there was an early crash and Joshua Stritzinger and Isaac Rabat had to leave the race, but I didn't knew we was there. Where did you see that?
Daniel Silva should not be leading the team in normal circunstances, as they presented Rui Sousa as the leader. But he is 40 now, and he is not the same he was 2/3 years ago. Even thought Rui today attacked many times whitout results, and in the Torre stage he often does a good performance, even if he has a bad day a stage before. Also I don't know if Daniel can keep up like he is doing, because he is know for not being regular in his performances. And also he loses between 1 and 2 minutes to Rui in a TT. So Rui may even pass him in the GC. Yesterday I forgot to refer that in stage 3 Rui Sousa crashed when passing his hometown(of which he is president) and injured a wrist. It wasn't serious, but that migh have affected him.
For today i would not suggest stats change, as didn't see anything to justify it. Tomorrow is rest day. And wednesday is the queen stage(Torre). And one more thing, what are you doing with my suggestions/tendencies? Sorry but I am curious about that. I know that I am not am no expert in stats and some may not be accurate. Just for curiositie.
https://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sp...100084.htm: A diary of Florian Nowak (riding for Christina Jewelry at the Volta) on radsport-news.com, where he explained the struggle after the crash, where the whole team tried to bring back Schuhmacher.
I compare this to other suggestions & race reports and then adjust the information and suggestions to our stat matrix for implementing them. Though I always doublecheck if some suggestions might be biased, which I guess is normal just to judge things from the most possible objective view.
As you give much more quality than findable reports I really take over a lot of your suggestions.
Interesting thoughts on Rui and Daniel!
@irdalopez: Yes, all the guys got updated after the Tour Alsace. Remember that Schachmann and Davies came from a break (so they got improved stats for succesful attacks in the mountains), while Mas and Frankiny are already on the Top of the U23 eligeable climbers list.
Thanks for the reply. I didn't know that website, even thought i don't speak german, but it can be understood by translanting with help of google.
Also Schumacher came here for the second time. He came here in 2014 and only did 27th, having his best results in the TT, like the last one when he did third, behing Victor de la Parte and Gustavo Veloso(who won) .
He isn't having good results in the last years. Also he has stats that are better than some of our best riders. Even still he think he may deserve only a little downgrade, not what I suggested before, without knowing the fall.
Croatia14 wrote:
& I have another question: can somebody explain me how Jaroslav Marycz came 5th at the RideLondon Classic? I mean, was it really him? He did nothing on Pro Cycling Level really for two years before...has somebody seen the last kilometers as the results also look kind of strange...
The last km can been seen here https://www.youtu...OSM-YrwgM.
I've watched the video and it's really him. I think it' a big surprise because of his latest resulsts. And he is aldredy 29. Hardly a rider will improve his abilities a this age.
Also it's a surprise the results of Wippert, Oss, and Swift. They have qualitie to fight for the win.
Maybe his result may be expained for the lack of qualitie or shape of the riders that are behind him in the classification(some may not be in good shape, and others aren't good sprinters).
Or maybe he simple improved. It's hard to know...
Edited by jpgm97 on 02-08-2016 11:44
PS:Maybe you think I am exagerating in the stats of the riders of W52-FC Porto-Porto Canal, but this team dominates here in Portugal. First Marque won the Volta there with help of Veloso(the team had other name),and then he changed team, and Veloso won 2 in a row. The team this year is part of FC Porto, a very good football team, and in 4 years of existance, it prepares to have 4 wins in the Volta. The 5 riders who were in the main group, mostly of the stage could lead any team in Portugal. Mestre even won one in Clube de Ciclismo de Tavira. Maybe in some time it is possible to go to Pro Continental, as I think is now the objective of the team.
After today should not be many changes to suggest, only if some riders that are well classified, or underperforming, starts to show something different. In the TT, I will do a report of changes for the ones who fight for the GC, or others riders who performs well in that stage, and his stats are low to his performance.
Edited by jpgm97 on 04-08-2016 11:10
Croatia 14, even thought there are 4 stages to the Volta a Portugal ending, do you need help in others races? I may be avaiable to do that if you want.
Edited by jpgm97 on 04-08-2016 17:28
@jpmg: were the final few meters of the stage Ezquerra won steeply uphill?
Would also take some information on the last Burgos stage. Great to see Pardilla back up after that horrible time, but was it a breakaway or was he the strongest?
Stats should be something like 73 flat, 73 MO, 74 HI, 72 TT, good backups, 71 sprint, 73 acc and high fighter.
I agree with most of what you said, ´
I would suggest better on flat than I said, but as I am also portuguese(and he is one of my favourite riders), so maybe I am not the best person to give opinion on that. Maybe a 71 or 72 for now. And I would give 80 fighter. And also his backups are too low, for a rider who attacked almost everyday in the Vuelta, last year
I don't know if he is the best rider in the Volta. He could do 2nd place if he peakead por that. I doubt he could be Veloso. Also 73 accelaration seens to low for him, for what he done in one of the first hills stage of the Vuelta last year. Eurosport in Portugal even thought he was Valverde(because both had a green jersey that day) with that attack he managed to do. Maybe if he attacked a bit latter, he had the won the stage.
Edited by jpgm97 on 06-08-2016 21:27
Croatia14 wrote:
@jpmg: were the final few meters of the stage Ezquerra won steeply uphill?
Would also take some information on the last Burgos stage. Great to see Pardilla back up after that horrible time, but was it a breakaway or was he the strongest?
Sorry for not giving a report of the last stages, like I have done before. I've some changes to suggest, but I would wait for the end of the Volta, and I will post them in a row.
He was in the breakway like Jorge14 said. But the answer to your question is no. He attacked on downhill, and he was never catched, so maybe a downhill bost to around 70 would fit him. But the race yesterday was very akward. The main group went to the wrong way, and stayed there for 4 km, even thought the breakway got in right course. The organization then decided to stop the race for some time. I don't know if that affected the riders, but the breakway would lost much more time.
Also Daniel Mestre won today on a breakway.
Pardilla attacked on the 4km to the end and was never catched.
Edited by jpgm97 on 06-08-2016 21:28
I also have questions:
Oscar Brea-why isn't he in the game?
Domingos Gonçalves-why is his downhill 73? I don't remember performing like that. Maybe i am wrong.
And I think it's all for the Volta a Portugal.
If you have any question, I will try to reply in the same day.
Also I feel happy to contribute for the DB have more realistic stats of our portuguese teams, and if you need help to cover others race I am avaiable.
@Jpgm97 Just got a chance to read over your last few reports. Awesome job with great attention to detail, very informative for me as I didn't really get a chance to watch the Volta live except for maybe one sprint stage
To answer your questions, 1st off Oscar Brea is in the DB, he's just named Oscar Gonzalez. Secondly, I think Domingos Goncalves has a 73 DH because of his good 2014 season with La Pomme Marseille, although I could be wrong, I didn't work on stats for the db back then in 2014.
If you've got any more suggestions, keep posting them because they're helping me out when I'm working on stats (for example I was working on stats for Wilson Rincon the other day and your suggestions helped out a lot)
For everyone else who reads or posts in this thread, I know me and Croatia (and Matt, and anyone who does stats in the db) appreciate suggestions on stats, so keep em coming
kodman wrote:
@Jpgm97 Just got a chance to read over your last few reports. Awesome job with great attention to detail, very informative for me as I didn't really get a chance to watch the Volta live except for maybe one sprint stage
To answer your questions, 1st off Oscar Brea is in the DB, he's just named Oscar Gonzalez. Secondly, I think Domingos Goncalves has a 73 DH because of his good 2014 season with La Pomme Marseille, although I could be wrong, I didn't work on stats for the db back then in 2014.
If you've got any more suggestions, keep posting them because they're helping me out when I'm working on stats (for example I was working on stats for Wilson Rincon the other day and your suggestions helped out a lot)
For everyone else who reads or posts in this thread, I know me and Croatia (and Matt, and anyone who does stats in the db) appreciate suggestions on stats, so keep em coming
Thanks, I try to help in the stats of riders I know the most. It's understandble that the people who do the stats can't cover all the races. I've been watching the Volta for years,so I know well most of the riders.
What I fell is this thread han't many movement of suggestions compared to WT one, even thought that one doens't need that many suggestions because the stat makers watch that races. I mean, the stat makers watch that races regularly, but races of category 2.1 like Volta a Portugal(some years ago it were 2HC) it's hard to cover. And I want to help more than I did. So if there's a race you think you won't be avaiable to watch, say that I may be avaiable to do it, in order to make PCM 2016 more realistic.
About Domingos Gonçalves I didn't watch that racehe performed well, but the stats seens high compared to Filipe Cardoso downhill(it doesn't mean Domingos don't deserve 73), who is the rider with most technique in our teams. He can create gaps in downhills, and sometimes he has to stop a bit, in order that his team Efapel can follow him.
About Oscar González. It's a rider that I didn't know well, and every time his name appeared it was Oscar Brea. I had a slight suspect that he was in game, because he is part of his team since the start of 2016 season. I should have checked PCS.., because I wanted to suggest changes for him. He could have done a good prologue, but had a mechanical problem in the end, wich made him lost time, so I think he deserves 68 in Prologue. As for TT, maybe around 66/67.
Another question, why has Rui Vinhas 70 in downhill? Maybe it's the right for him, but I am not certain.
PS: I forgot to mention that Hernâni Broco will retire in the end of the season
Another suggestion. Raul Alarcón deserves aroud 73/74 barouder and an example of that it's the the Climber's Jerseys he won in Castilla y León and Asturias.
Almost all of your suggestions have been implemented, some though with 1-2 points higher/lower. Still the wall of text are great help, even if I didn´t answer directly to some of them I wrote everything, verified it and implemented it.
To Schumacher: I have no real idea, in Nowaks diary in radsportnews.com he only told that the last 3 were just happy to reach the finishing line. For an injury we don´t know how much impact it had the result was reasonable I guess.
Counting in his other result I'd suggest 72/70.
To your offer: We´ll tell if we have some questions to races (the way we did today). But racing reports like yours with implemented stats suggestions always help us
To Goncalves: This decision was also before my time and I honestly have never seen him descending. But I guessed that you don´t just give a rider a comparibly high DH just for random issues. If you say that he´s not that good I'll of course lower his downhill.
This isn't based on any recent results but just a general point. Chris Lawless is now the main sprinter at JLT Condor and should have slightly improved sprint stats while Downing and Briggs should be reduced because they look well passed it and operate in supporting roles for Lawless.
asoutar wrote:
This isn't based on any recent results but just a general point. Chris Lawless is now the main sprinter at JLT Condor and should have slightly improved sprint stats while Downing and Briggs should be reduced because they look well passed it and operate in supporting roles for Lawless.
thx for the input...put Lawless up to 71 Sprint while decreased Downing and Briggs to 70 sprint!
Croatia14 wrote:
Almost all of your suggestions have been implemented, some though with 1-2 points higher/lower. Still the wall of text are great help, even if I didn´t answer directly to some of them I wrote everything, verified it and implemented it.
To Schumacher: I have no real idea, in Nowaks diary in radsportnews.com he only told that the last 3 were just happy to reach the finishing line. For an injury we don´t know how much impact it had the result was reasonable I guess.
Counting in his other result I'd suggest 72/70.
To your offer: We´ll tell if we have some questions to races (the way we did today). But racing reports like yours with implemented stats suggestions always help us
To Goncalves: This decision was also before my time and I honestly have never seen him descending. But I guessed that you don´t just give a rider a comparibly high DH just for random issues. If you say that he´s not that good I'll of course lower his downhill.
Now I am really curious about how my suggestions where implemented into stats in game. But I will have to wait for the DB being uploaded, when you think it's done. So I have no hurry, and also I am happy for finally the Portuguese teams can have more realist stats in game.
. I know that I am not am no expert in stats and some may not be accurate. Just for curiositie.
. And also his backups are too low, for a rider who attacked almost everyday in the Vuelta, last year
