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Alakagom
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Froome's data from 2007. From data alone he was going to be a very good pro rider, and one has to pay attention to the 17% body fat, which is quite chubby, I mean Betancur level 2014 chubby.

I mean doesn't prove he didn't use undetectable weight loss drugs, AICAR or something like that, but from the stats in 2007 he was going to make a very good rider ( at least on the numbers alone )
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ianrussell
Alakagom wrote:
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Froome's data from 2007. From data alone he was going to be a very good pro rider, and one has to pay attention to the 17% body fat, which is quite chubby, I mean Betancur level 2014 chubby.

I mean doesn't prove he didn't use undetectable weight loss drugs, AICAR or something like that, but from the stats in 2007 he was going to make a very good rider ( at least on the numbers alone )


It's interesting if nothing else and any info is good. Some more links for Froome https://www.gskhp...iology.pdf

https://chrisfroom...ire.co.uk/

Pinot remains the stand out with a full power profile here:

https://www.freder...ot-ppr.pdf
 
Strydz
Alakagom wrote:
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Froome's data from 2007. From data alone he was going to be a very good pro rider, and one has to pay attention to the 17% body fat, which is quite chubby, I mean Betancur level 2014 chubby.

I mean doesn't prove he didn't use undetectable weight loss drugs, AICAR or something like that, but from the stats in 2007 he was going to make a very good rider ( at least on the numbers alone )


It's funny that Froome has said a couple of times his weight was about 71 kgs back then but this has him at much more than that, either Chris is lying or he just isn't that bright. I could either way on that one :lol:
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Stromeon
Well, you know what I think of Froome, but I'm pleased to see that he's actually taken some steps to provide some much-needed transparency, I've got to give some credit to him (or is it credit to Michelle?). While it's somewhat reassuring to know that he had some talent to begin with, and obviously there was room for improvement in those numbers given his weight, it still doesn't answer two of the key questions in my head: a) the rapid weight loss and transformation between Pologne and the Vuelta in 2011, and b) my favourite Dave Brailsford graph (from 2011, pre-Vuelta of course)

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Neverthless the release of data by any rider is to be applauded, even more so given Froome's high profile nature and the controversy surrounding him. If Froome is happy to release stuff like this given the suspicion around him, shouldn't it be fine for pretty much everyone else? Thibaut Pinot aside, we're lacking data from other really top pros, which would be useful in both assessing them individually and also as a basis of comparison to Froome.
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Strydz
With you on riders releasing data Stromeon, Pinot is clearly the exception with this and makes what Froome has released look pale in comparison and the rest of the GC riders look even worse.
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ianrussell
I've posted this before but as it's relevant to the current data release here's the link again https://sportsscie...hysiology/

Taking the comprehensive data from Pinot means you can start to calculate what's reasonable using the triangular relationship between VO2 Max, efficiency and sustainable intensity.

However, you need this data both regularly and from multiple riders to be able to compare and get a moving picture of the information.
 
Gustavovskiy
Oh, I miss this thread...
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Luxemburger
It took way too long to bring this thread up :lol:
 
Miguel98
Gustavovskiy wrote:
Oh, I miss this thread...


We need issoisso and Aquarius back Sad
 
baseballlover312
Oh boy, this thread is back! One of my all time favorites.

I have a really controversial video rant about Sky and why I hate them so much including a lot of stuff from here dropping a couple of hours, might as well post it here then.

Miguel98 wrote:
Gustavovskiy wrote:
Oh, I miss this thread...


We need issoisso and Aquarius back Sad


I wish but it won't happen. Avin killed isso and I think Aquarius ended his own life from his sorrow over that.
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Spilak23
All timer this thread Cool
 
Riis123
Poels had similar performances on Angliru and Zoncolan in 2011 and 2014, but I think the performance of today topped it all. Pretty ridiculous from Dutchman, he seemed to close gaps without breathing and policing the best climbers like it was nothing
 
baseballlover312
Here ya go. Probably tons of misinformation in this cause I was playing PCM instead of researching for most of it but yeah.


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Strydz
baseballlover312 wrote:
Oh boy, this thread is back! One of my all time favorites.

I have a really controversial video rant about Sky and why I hate them so much including a lot of stuff from here dropping a couple of hours, might as well post it here then.

Miguel98 wrote:
Gustavovskiy wrote:
Oh, I miss this thread...


We need issoisso and Aquarius back Sad


I wish but it won't happen. Avin killed isso and I think Aquarius ended his own life from his sorrow over that.


He rides his bike and runs alot for a guy who's took his own life (we follow eachother on Strava) The forum is poorer without him around, same goes for isso
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Avin Wargunnson
I wish but it won't happen. Avin killed isso and I think Aquarius ended his own life from his sorrow over that.

Not this bullshit again please. Rolling Eyes
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baseballlover312
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I wish but it won't happen. Avin killed isso and I think Aquarius ended his own life from his sorrow over that.

Not this bullshit again please. Rolling Eyes


Just a joke mate, I think the rest of the post accounts for that.
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Avin Wargunnson
baseballlover312 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I wish but it won't happen. Avin killed isso and I think Aquarius ended his own life from his sorrow over that.

Not this bullshit again please. Rolling Eyes


Just a joke mate, I think the rest of the post accounts for that.

Fair enough, i would just be sad if members who were not here back then would have an impression that i have forced someone out on purpose. Smile
( my annoying personality is not my fault, i was born like that). Pfft
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Strydz
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I wish but it won't happen. Avin killed isso and I think Aquarius ended his own life from his sorrow over that.

Not this bullshit again please. Rolling Eyes


Just a joke mate, I think the rest of the post accounts for that.

Fair enough, i would just be sad if members who were not here back then would have an impression that i have forced someone out on purpose. Smile
( my annoying personality is not my fault, i was born like that). Pfft


Well I think you will force everybody out eventually Wink
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Avin Wargunnson
AvinDaily.com, why not? I would like my posts all day, i just need slaves to run the server...

Or maybe Admir would join?
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