ivaneurope, you have been evicted from the Big Brother house. Please pack your bags and give a final player post with your comments/goodbyes.
The championship will be between jandal7, trekbmc, and Marcovdw. The jury will have to get some questions thought up so we can start the session. Jury members will receive a PM soon, for the 3 remaining, you just hold tight and wait for my PM later on.
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Also, expecting a hellstorm with the Q&A. Should have good fun with them
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant." [ICL] Santos-Euskadi | [PT] Xero Racing
Ура, четвърти в света сме!
Translated in Bulgarian this means "Horray, we're 4th in the world", which is a throwback to the 4th place of Bulgaria's football team in the 1994 World Cup.
Anyway, I didn't thought that I'd be so high in the rankings after being nomminated dozen times. When I heard the first time I was evicted I was like "Oh, so soon?". But then it was revealed that I remained long enough.
I wish the three finalists good luck and may the best player win
What a classy, wholesome, heartful, fulfilling apology to Ivan and his many fans.
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant." [ICL] Santos-Euskadi | [PT] Xero Racing
ivaneurope wrote:
Ура, четвърти в света сме!
Translated in Bulgarian this means "Horray, we're 4th in the world", which is a throwback to the 4th place of Bulgaria's football team in the 1994 World Cup.
Anyway, I didn't thought that I'd be so high in the rankings after being nomminated dozen times. When I heard the first time I was evicted I was like "Oh, so soon?". But then it was revealed that I remained long enough.
I wish the three finalists good luck and may the best player win
You put me to shame.
Disclaimer- Most of my posts are me thinking aloud. And most of what I think is rubbish.
Winner of a FIFA Prediction Fair Play Award (a phrase becoming increasingly ironic) "... Because he (me) has a sound tactical mind in general..." jandal7, at 9:30 am GMT on 12th May 2016
Alright guys, you will now be required to answer your questions in post right here!
Please post answers by May 12th at 7:00 PM EST
trekbmc:
What is your motivation to win this competition?
If you had the opportunity to revive one of the already evicted participants who would you choose to bring back?
How do you justify your appearance as the final 3 when it had more to do with an alliance then skill in the competitions?
Do you feel like you have had to carry more weight in you alliances than the other members, and do you hold resentment if so?
Are you aware that if Matt was selected for the veto, thus having a chance to save himself, he'd still be in the game kicking asses?
Are you aware you've just won the game power gaming your way to the final?
Do you always pretend to be incompetent in these games?
Just to clarify: who were the members of your alliance and from when to when?
Did you always know how it (the game) was going to end?
Why did you choose me (weirdskyfan64) as the first alliance member?
jandal7:
What is your motivation to win this competition?
If you had the opportunity to revive one of the already evicted participants who would you choose to bring back?
How do you justify your appearance as the final 3 when it had more to do with an alliance then skill in the competitions?
Having only won one HoH and one veto throughout the entire game, what make you more worthy to be the winner than someone with a much more victorious record, like trekbmc?
What did you frankly do to have a chance to win the game?
Why shouldn't I vote for trek?
Why haven't you spent all your money yet?
Why did you all vote weirdskyfan64 out?
Do you agree that you would be an undeserved winner because of your inactivity?
Why did you and trek ask me (weirdskyfan64) for advice?
Marcovdw:
What is your motivation to win this competition?
If you had the opportunity to revive one of the already evicted participants who would you choose to bring back?
How do you justify your appearance as the final 3 when it had more to do with an alliance then skill in the competitions?
Having only won one HoH and one veto throughout the entire game, what make you more worthy to be the winner than someone with a much more victorious record, like trekbmc?
How does it feel to Zubeldia your way to the final 3?
What was your role in the orgy alliance v2?
Why wouldn't you let ivaneurope into the final?
Who has the idea to "use" Ivan's weakness in the evictions?
After Jesleyh being twice the second, how proud would you be to be the first Dutch winner?
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How come mine suck Any unofficial good questions that I'll answer at the end, feel free!
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant." [ICL] Santos-Euskadi | [PT] Xero Racing
I have never won a big competition like this. Last two seasons I was eliminated early on, and in Survivor I finished seventh or something. I was close in Amazing Race but due to my teammate being unable to solve the final puzzle we finished third. So I'm very motivated to be crowned the winner here.
And I have already prepared a special avatar in case I win
If you had the opportunity to revive one of the already evicted participants who would you choose to bring back?
If I had to chose who to bring to the final three at the beginning of the competition it would've been trekbmc and weirdskyfan64. The latter was the one who approached me for the alliance. I was originally planning to go allianceless after being screwed over by the first orgy alliance in season 2, but because he said quote: "you're probably one of my favourite members(honestly)". How could I say no if he thinks I'm one of his favourite members.
How do you justify your appearance as the final 3 when it had more to do with an alliance then skill in the competitions?
I know that based on skill it would be much tougher to reach the final, as with skill comes a great risk that you'll be eliminated by another alliance for being to strong. This happened to me in the first season when the orgy alliance eliminated me after I won two HOH's early on in the game, in the exact same manner as Matt went out this year (having no chance to defend yourself because you're not in the veto).
In fact, I thought if I didn't win the scavenger hunt I would be eliminated as well like weirdskyfan (who was the fourth member of the alliance). If you look at the eviction ceremony, you could see 1-2. I was the one who voted to evict ivaneurope (as planned) but somehow trek and jandal didn't so I thought they had secretely went into an alliance with ivan as they hadn't joined the alliance chat in days. So I was online at 1PM EST, and sweat and shaked through the entire challenge. I thought I would lose as I saw trekbmc online as well and after half an hour he left, so I though he was finished. And I was afraid I made a small error in my hurry. I completed after one hour, completely soaked and tired. The next morning I was reliefed I had won the challenge.
Having only won one HoH and one veto throughout the entire game, what make you more worthy to be the winner than someone with a much more victorious record, like trekbmc?
Yes trekbmc has won more HOH's than me. However, one was where his bad jersey beat my horrible jersey (as we where the only two to submit). The second was the Monument Elimination Game copy, which has more to do with alliancework than actual skill (as all the alliance members upvoted him on a regular basis). The third one was High Risk, which might be more luck based. And if you look at my only HOH victory, well it was the one where I was under pressure as I thought I had to win it (see above). That challenge involved the skill to search for the numbers quickly. So yes I may not have won that many HOH's, but I won the one which mattered.
And I played every challenge, which eventually won me a veto where I was the only one who submitted multiple items. I didn't want to win a veto like that, but it saved me from elimination as it may have been me instead of weirdskyfan who's not here in the final.
How does it feel to Zubeldia your way to the final 3?
Yes I'm quiet, as waghlon said once during the competition. I'm someone who is online a lot and participates everywhere but doesn't post so much, especially since MG is on a hiatus and the Monument Elimination Game ended. After my low post count nearly cost me my place in the MG I increased my activity overall, but it's still not on a spammers level. If my quietness is a reason not to vote for me I can understand, but I don't think it should, given I have participated in every challenge (maybe except the graphical design challenge where I submitted something shit, but oh boy I suck at graphics). And I wasted all my money on one VETO where I misread the challenge, thinking I would get all my money back regardless. Hence I spend 500 dollars on a bunch of candy!
What was your role in the orgy alliance v2?
Immediately after joining the groupchat weridskyfan asked me for advise on how to play the game/alliances. I was an experienced member, having played the previous two editions and being screwed over by orgy alliance v1 numerous times, and I gave some (valuable) insights into the game. Then near the end when we could chose between eliminating ivan or MARS (who was not part of the alliance but we used him in a fake alliance) I gave my opinions about the situation (MARS is more likely to win HOH than ivan) and we ditched MARS.
Why wouldn't you let ivaneurope into the final?
A very simple question actually. Ivaneurope is like Leicester City, nearly everyone wants him to win this thing as the underdog. If I took him to the final he would win for sure, which is the stupidest thing I could do as I want to win for myself of course.
Who has the idea to "use" Ivan's weakness in the evictions?
Not sure who it was. What I do know is that we put him up against the one who we wanted to eliminate, since ivaneurope was a likable guy and less people would vote for him in evictions. And I was not part of the dcision which resulted in weirdskyfan bein evicted before him, you'd have to ask trek and jandal about that.
After Jesleyh being twice the second, how proud would you be to be the first Dutch winner?
The fact that I would be the first Dutch winner is less important to me than the fact that I would win something Jesleyh has never won . I kinda want my revenge after last season (the fake alliance, even calling it the Feyenoord alliance since I'm an Ajax fan).
Did you have any other alliance offers?
No, only weirdskyfan's. If I would've gotten any I would refuse saying I would go on an alliancesless route. Last season I was basically stepped on a bom after agreeing to a second alliance which made me uncover the truth about the orgy alliance v1. I was evicted straight away.
If you have any further questions or would like me to clarify something, feel free to ask me.
Edited by Marcovdw on 12-05-2016 09:03
Interesting post there Marco, told me a bit I didn't know!
What is your motivation to win this competition?
The same as it always was throughout the game: More than almost anyone else, spare possibly matt I’d say. No disrespect but I was the paranoid scheming one and I’ve worked the most to get a near perfect final three. Not in the challenges obviously (though I did better than I thought I could in most) but in all other, and dare I say some more important, areas of the game.
also I am crap at daily games and this is probably my last chance for this, with a bit of luck with bbl and whoever he was with, if anyone, not pushing me and trek’s obvious alliance further to the brink, plus apparently (still think it was a joke) showing some promise last season, where I cocked up alliances. Kind of opposite of this season
If you had the opportunity to revive one of the already evicted participants who would you choose to bring back?
Definitely Matt, as I really wanted to kick ass with him and it was a real shame I had to revert to plan B. Though in fairness my chances of winning with him with me would be zero, thought it would be more fun and more fulfilling (plus he deserved it).
Possibly bbl as I felt he had more to give and seemed to be up for the fight. Would be interesting seeing him in a hopefully more S1-like game next year.
How do you justify your appearance in the final three when it had more to do with an alliance than skill in the competitions?
Because it never bloody does have more to do with skill in HOH/vetos, and the skills needed to get here I daresay I had the most of, so time to get Jesley about describing myself soon.
Having won only one HOH and one veto throughout the entire game, what makes you more worthy to be the winner than someone with a much more victorious record, like trekbmc?
What did you frankly do to have a chance to win the game?
Why did you all vote wsf out?
Why did you and trek ask me (weirdskyfan64) for advice
Seriously I think these are the right questions to do a long-winded explanation of the probably more intricate than many thought alliance situation(s) I had in the game, so I’ll answer the two wsf-based questions along the way (seriously, two :lol
So I started the game with an alliance with matt:
[12/02/2016 00:00:36] jandal: Alliance/truce in BB?
and also an almost obligatory alliance with trek, which bbl picked up on as a safe bet to make. I was the fourth guy in out of five (though MARS was a lapdog) and felt it was a good way to get info that I could pass along to matt through “educated guesses” as I knew he wouldn’t appreciate me having an alliance, as well as a plan B that I would ultimately have to utilise to get here. Speaking of fourth guy, sometimes I really felt like it.
When I was nominated I saw the hole in the alliance with trek, I suck at flash games and matt is amazing, cheers mate. Threw trek and co. off the scent of anyone as they didn’t guess (beyond a joke trek made that was 100% true, something like “I bet jandal is with matt behind our backs” or smth). I was saved, kept in trek without really needing too, and away I was.
This was the period I most enjoyed in the game, talking with matt lots and a bit with trek and the orgy, keeping it up though activity was so hilariously bad with marco and wsf, Zubeldias 1 and 2 themselves, they wouldn’t have noticed if I had left for a month but been active everywhere else on the interwebs.
I won an auction and put myself with matt as I felt the walls closing in. It was a huge risk which unfortunately didn’t pay off, and either then on next time matt was gone and I couldn’t do anything with time constraints. I blame myself for that one, especially as he should have made it further, being a better player than everyone else.
I wouldn’t have said I was carried by him though, we were certainly equals in our partnerships although he did a lot of HOH/veto power gaming grunt work. He did save my ass and give me some good propaganda against trek:
[22:18:46] Trek Bmc: Yeah, that's the thing, you're main contact on what's going on is MARS While I've been relaying PMs and Skype chats the whole game and get a good view.
[22:19:00] Matteo Mazzarelli: i also chatted a lot with jandal
[22:19:03] Trek Bmc: and it was going well until i wasn't selected as a veto player I admit that was the luckiest thing ever
[22:19:11] Matteo Mazzarelli: fact is that he hid completely the fact he had an alliance
[22:19:15] Trek Bmc: But I'm assuming he wouldn't say to much.
[22:19:27] Matteo Mazzarelli: he is an awesome actor
[22:19:41] Matteo Mazzarelli: he pretended he knew shit
[22:19:45] Trek Bmc: I remembering him mentioning once that he asked you and you said no.
[22:19:52] Matteo Mazzarelli: and he was quite believable
[22:19:54] Trek Bmc: about an alliance I mean
[22:19:58] Matteo Mazzarelli: he did
[22:20:06] Trek Bmc: Jandal is literally the greatest internet actor out there.
[22:20:30] Trek Bmc: Look at his Assassin or Innocent game where he led the pack through every option (unfortunately it was short) to win the game.
Matt went on to cover my bacon whilst I chummed it back up with trek and continued to be the brains of the game. An alliance with ivan replaced the one with Marco and wsf (actually this happened before my auction win now I think about it.) and we hilariously managed to nominate him but not get him accidentally eliminated time and time again against our opponents, offing MARS before the burger and then it was crunch time. I thought Marco and wsf didn’t know but reading Marco’s he, at least, cottoned on. I think it was fairly general knowledge that me and trek had each other’s backs though,
I suggested a two-pronged guaranteed elimination attack which seemed the best solution, because at the time the plan was a final three with ivan, trek and I. wsf had to go in the end as there could only be three. I felt bad for this as my paranoid mind had come around to the truth that he was loyal and if the opportunity with ivan didn’t come up wsf would have been the third man. he was put out also because he wanted me to come fourth. As said, with matt, trek and ivan I had a wiki in my mind on this game
We asked him for advice, to get a question out of the way, because he has a sound tactical mind in general, which I felt (without knowing his story) he wasted an opportunity by not using.
Now coming into the final HOH matt17br lost ivaneurope BBS3, and I have no doubt in my mind what i incredibly just typed is 100% true. He was going to be our third man and likely Marco’s (again, could be wrong) until matt showed us how we were oblivious to the fact he would be the people’s choice for the win.
Marco’s well-earned final HOH did little after the drama (at last) in the thread other than make trek and my weekly-news-scrolling-without-success (tbf I also couldn’t find a couple others) asses look bad before the jury picked them.
Tl;dr: With matt, had to use backup plan, carried ivan but he came into his own anyway, ivan’s fan club were over-supportive
Now I’ve written an explanation of the game which you just didn’t read and I think answered the “how did I get here” question pretty well, time for what makes me more worthy than trek, and I’ll talk about Marco as I feel you’re discounting him a bit with my questions.
As Marco correctly stated, trek won two HOHs but they were total shyte (not that I had time for the jersey HOH). One was one where I could easily have been picked by us and you’d be asking trek this question. The other was one where Marco might have won and you’d be asking trek this question again. My veto and lesser extent HOH (with a bit of help from matt, before he blows it and makes me look like a prick) were result of hard work by searching the forums and losing my life respectively. More worthy? In everything you didn’t see in this thread, I played a better game than my two rivals. End of. Not that they didn’t play well, I was better.
Why shouldn’t i vote for trek?
If you’ve got a hard-on for everyone’s favourite Aussie with Stockholm Syndrome, I can’t help you out here. If not, good man, see above.
Why haven’t you spent all your money yet?
My one regret in the game. Nope, who am I kidding, I didn’t need it with an alliance and won an important auction. i was a bit over-cautious (thought there would be another one, but only needed 60 recently) but generally played the ones I competed in (outbids late on, wasting MARS’ money) pretty well. Not a question I thought I’d have to answer, but valid
Do you agree you would be an undeserved winner because of inactivity?
No. Shockingly enough, I disagree. There’s your answer
Fine then. I think I was the most active behind the scenes, but you guys don’t want that as I’ve stressed it so much. So I’ll just disagree and say I was as active as you can be on a phone with limited data and extremely active behind the scenes. If you want to vote based off HOH and veto scores, pick trek and remain ignorant.
Also, may the best player win, whoever our jury decrees it is!
EDIT: Far out, that got long.
Edited by jandal7 on 12-05-2016 09:40
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant." [ICL] Santos-Euskadi | [PT] Xero Racing
This game was definately more layered and dimensional than I expected. I knew something didn't quite add up but after reading your explanation I finally understand how the game was played
Better go as well while I have time and a headache
What is your motivation to win this competition?
The challenge of it mainly, I've always loved watching survivor, so playing this game was as close as I would ever get, it's a lot of fun to chat with jandal about the exact 'perfect' (undoubtedly not so ) strategy, also I love the challenges especially those that revolve around finding something for each letter.
It was always so fun weaving my way round the game talking to people working out exactly what was going on and what to do.
Plus my signature could use a userbar.
If you had the opportunity to revive one of the already evicted participants who would you choose to bring back?
Ehh, putting me on the block here but weridskyfan really, my first plan was to take him and jandal to the end (sorry Marco, you're just way too likeable ) the only reason I voted wsf out was because he wanted to take Marco to the final rather than jandal, which didn't really match up with any plans we had, so when Marco won the veto, we had to vote wsf out. Really regrettable.
How do you justify your appearance as the final 3 when it had more to do with an alliance then skill in the competitions?
First I think I have to justify our alliance as a whole, last season I was rubbish, played in an alliance only. I committed to and dropped off while I was away for the weekend and couldn't do anything.
So this game I committed myself to building a group of people I could trust to go for the win, I was convinced that there were other alliances and even believed that there could be 4 or more (5 or 6 even) against us. So we got a group and tried to use strength of numbers to reach the end.
That said, we relied a lot on strength in competitions, and we did win, but you can't win everything and it's the combination of alliance strength, competition skill and some luck wins this game. So I think the alliance is justifiable.
Do you feel like you have had to carry more weight in you alliances than the other members, and do you hold resentment if so?
Honestly, yes I felt like I carried some more weight, I formulated a lot of plans and tactics and then brought them up as a group decision especially with jandal making it seem like I wasn't make it, I was also the ultimate social player talking with people everywhere, even making a vote for a vote later deal and everything like that, but also I put myself under the bus by playing well in the challenges at the start, and simply doing well in the challenges to keep us all in and get others out, especially the pivotal high risk challenge (after which we declared that our alliance was successful).
No resentment though, we all played our part, nobody asked me to give each challenge a good go, I had spare time and it was fun so I tried to win.
A slight change after reading jandal's: well that was a complete undersell of all my work there, and I was planning on overselling yours a little, so yeah some resentment now at him.
Are you aware that if Matt was selected for the veto, thus having a chance to save himself, he'd still be in the game kicking asses?
Yes I am aware that Matt, would've gone and won every remaining challenge (even monument elimination) and streamed to a stunning victory, congrats on the excellent hypothetical victory Matt.
This seems like a good place to credit Matt for helping me so much accidently: He made it obvious we had to get Ivan out, which fortunately made sure Marco took me and jandal to the final in the last HOH. He also fuelled my paranoia and jandal, which I still believe saved me as I hovered my finger over the enter button to give jandal info on the rest of the final HOH (and ended up with me going to bed).
Are you aware you've just won the game power gaming your way to the final?
Yep, I spent a stupid amount of time on this game but it's not like I had anything better to do over winter. It's kinda hard to win this game without power gaming or at least having an alliance member power game for you and I congratulate others for trying. Plus power gaming can be fun.
Still, It's not like I bought a team full of min. wage riders so I can buy all the top riders out and win the league Allianz style.
Do you always pretend to be incompetent in these games?
Just this time, usually I actually am incompetent. Really depends on whether or not I manage to get confused, at the start of this I did try to use that excuse to stay in, but in the last one and most other games I actually am incompetent.
Just to clarify: who were the members of your alliance and from when to when?
Immediately I was with Weirdskyfan, Marco and jandal about one day later, pretty quickly we decided we need a fifth member because we were paranoid you were ganging up against us. So we added MARS however we didn't completely trust he wasn't with Matt at the start resulting in a confusing two chat thing. It wasn't until around about Waghlon was accidentally voted out that jandal and I approached Ivan, we pretty much told him that we'd take him to the end if he was fine with us nominating him continuously and we talked to him occasionally about what was going on, eventually we had to ditch MARS to keep Ivan in, so we presented it as a group alliance decision and got away with it.
Next I sent a PM to wsf, at that point I wanted to take him and Ivan to the final because I no longer trusted jandal due to suspecting him of being with matt, but he was completely committed to taking Marco to the final and I didn't want him to stop trusting me by telling him I wanted neither of us, so I made the decision to stick with jandal and our plans, putting my stock in winning the remaining hohs, which worked out in the end.
So I over complicated it and crossed a lot of people when we could've just played like this and ended with the same people, but still this was much more fun.
Did you always know how it (the game) was going to end?
Yes and no, it changed during the game, at the start it was wsf and jandal, then once we talked to Ivan it was Ivan and jandal. Then Matt was voted out, and we had a long talk, I mentioned that I was paranoid about jandal, he made me more so, then jandal flat-out stated that Matt sent him our conversation, and told me not to be paranoid, so I told him it was all good and decided Ivan and wsf were coming to the final, while continuing with jandal's plan that they were coming to the final four.
Then I made my second mistake during the game, not having enough time for the veto Marco won, meaning I had to pick between Ivan and wsf, I picked wsf because I thought I would be out if I kept him in a didn't win the final HOH, that altered my plan to jandal and Marco, which is what happened.
So you can say I didn't know, but the game actually played out very similarly to how I planned, so I feel like I did know and just changed my mind to whichever situation I wanted better at that time.
Why did you choose me (weirdskyfan64) as the first alliance member?
Because you're a nice guy, I like you but don't know you that well so wanted to work with you, I wanted to finish with you and trusted you. I'm really sorry I voted you out.
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Now some thing I left unanswered in that post above:
The story of the final HOH
So I was all good at 7:00 and came on finding 6 of them in half and hour, then I had soccer training. Came back at 9:30 and starting talking to jandal as I found number 6, he suggested he would help find 1 but didn't really do much and at 10:30pm I decided there was no way Marco was still looking (having either finished or stopped) and went to bed, jandal had asked me to send the other results so he could get them in NZ time but I didn't trust him enough for that, so Marco won
Marco and jandal think you're performance in challenges mean nothing
Well the jersey and monument challenge they mean little, yes. However the high risk was my performance actually analysing exactly what other players were playing both in this and Ian's game.
More importantly though, were my two second places in hohs and my veto win at the start, I threw myself under the bus doing well early for the alliance to succeed, this took a lot of my time (particularly the advertising HOH that I did on a tablet). So yeah, my performance in challenges meant a lot, if not for my performance in them, Matt or maybe bbl would be here sitting pretty and ready to win.
Jandal credits you to having no clue about his plans with Matt and claims he did all the thinking.
I made a pretty good guess that he was with him and was wary of jandal the whole game, especially in making sure the alliance let me win the Monument Elimination Game rather than him by telling Ivan and MARS to vote for me rather than jandal first. I knew, I just stuffed up with wsf, I didn't even trust jandal enough to have offered him a spot (was going to ask Luxemburger) but Marco and wsf insisted.
I'm pretty sure I did the same amount if not much more decision making than him. Getting Matt out was my plan so top convincing the alliance to vote out MARS before Ivan. I'm not sure there was more than one or two decisions he actually made, and either way with his Matt alliance, it meant nothing in the end except if he didn't have it our alliance would've fallen apart because he would've had us split the first vote.
What was the other mistakes you made?
Accidentally voting waghlon out, that was kinda stupid, I kept asking MARS if he could nominated Matt and Ivan but he said no so I told him to nominate Waghlon, then he said yes and nominated Matt and Waghlon, Matt won the veto and I got stuck voting out Waghlon.
And telling Matt I suspected jandal, but he (jandal) seemed to believe me when I told him that I believed he did nothing behind my back, so I got off unscathed there.
And that wsf thing of course,
Why do I deserve to win?
I spent so much time on this, always knew what was going on, did well in challenges and worked everything out as near as I could to perfection as I could in a game like this, so I'd like to think I deserve your vote for how I played, while they can claim my challenges mean nothing and I didn't do much tactical thinking, I did as much of that as either of them and even socialised to know for our alliance exactly were everybody was at, what was going on and throwing myself under the bus and getting multiple players on my bad side just for them to make this finale, so frankly without me, it would be Matt, BBL, Brewers, Waghlon or Luxemburger here instead of us and about to win.
Also, I was the only player to badly injure myself playing this game, I bruised and almost broke my finger thinking about it, who puts a curb on a bike path anyway?
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I learnt a lot in this game as well, like the danger of grammatical mistakes and that jesadog is actually jseadog, who knew?
And thus concludes my longest post on daily. Feel free to ask any more questions if you want. Congrats to you two Marco and jandal and may the best player win.
And thanks to jesadog and all the other players for this great game.
And this made my headache about three times worse, I'm having a nap. Edited by trekbmc on 12-05-2016 14:22
I really would like to vote all 3 for the different ways they played the alliances. I would also like to clarify that I accepted jandals offer just because he promised he didn't have any alliance beside the one we were going to make. I was naive enough to believe him but at first I didn't care too much about it either. I was pretty sure I would have gotten voted out through the replacement strategy, but I was sure that would happened in the first phases. When the orgy alliance only nominated me without using the goddamn trick the first time, I realised that they were a lot more naive than I thought, especially Mars, who apparently thought I was with him until I explained was alone and didn't want to stay with anyone.
He revealed the alliances plans to vote me out through replacement, unknowingly revealing also he was in the orgy alliance, even though he basically did it the first day when he asked me what alliances would be needed for, after all. Then he even said I gotta check who is with me. Ffs mars then you are surprised you get voted out before ivan?
Trek don't forget that the one time you used the replacement against me was the last time not all the players could play in the veto. I don't think I'd be lying if I said that if I got nominated I would have won every single veto challenge until the end, scavenger hunt included because jdog didn't realise the posts he edited were in the new posts.
Also jandal what do you mean with the "making me seem like a prick part"?
matt17br wrote:
Trek don't forget that the one time you used the replacement against me was the last time not all the players could play in the veto. I don't think I'd be lying if I said that if I got nominated I would have won every single veto challenge until the end, scavenger hunt included because jdog didn't realise the posts he edited were in the new posts.
While you may have stumbled on one, fair enough, you very likely could've been here right now.
Any unofficial good questions that I'll answer at the end, feel free!
