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Random Abandonments
TheManxMissile
Playing a race and just had some odd abandonment's happen...

First was an AI rider. He was a pre-race favorite and just stopped dead... No crash, just stopped and abandoned.
Second was another AI rider, same thing
Third, and most odd, was my own rider. No crash, no puncture. Was sitting in peloton, happy (BPM was 145ish) all going well. Next moment just stops dead and quits the race...

Any ideas?
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Andy3792
I believe the game only has an animation for a crashing rider that afterwards continue the race.
If he is suddenly stopping then it means the rider had a crash and he can't continue racing. After the race you will notice that he has a injury or look for the AI riders for injuries.
The problem is that Cyanide didn't make an animation for crashing and abandoning the race because of an injury.
 
dienblad
Cyanide has made the nice bug that a rider gets some pretty worse injury by only putting his foot to the ground... Shock
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TheManxMissile
They could at least put in the message saying x has crashed.
He did in fact break an arm, but i spent ages panicking that the game was broken
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lluuiiggii
Andy3792 wrote:
I believe the game only has an animation for a crashing rider that afterwards continue the race.
If he is suddenly stopping then it means the rider had a crash and he can't continue racing. After the race you will notice that he has a injury or look for the AI riders for injuries.
The problem is that Cyanide didn't make an animation for crashing and abandoning the race because of an injury.

I've seen several times a big pile-up and then in it some riders stopped (as they were injured and would abandon), so I don't think it's that. It's not the case of Cyanide not making the animation (even because, if you check in the Cyclist Viewer, the crash/get back up animations are separated), more like a well known bug on the game that sometimes the rider "crashes" and abandon but without you seeing or reading about the crash Wink
 
Andy3792
lluuiiggii wrote:
I've seen several times a big pile-up and then in it some riders stopped (as they were injured and would abandon), so I don't think it's that. It's not the case of Cyanide not making the animation (even because, if you check in the Cyclist Viewer, the crash/get back up animations are separated), more like a well known bug on the game that sometimes the rider "crashes" and abandon but without you seeing or reading about the crash Wink


You are right that sometimes you don't notice a crash and suddenly there is an abandonment. Maybe I had this idea because sometimes you read of a crash and when you scroll backwards to the riders you still see the animation of the crash and the rider continues the race.
The same lag is when you start a race you see an animation of the start to cycle. Some sconds later when you go in the back of the peloton you have the feeling the riders just have started to ride their bike.:lol:

Is the cyclist editor the viewer? And where do I have to search for the animations?
 
lluuiiggii
That happens I think because the game only "updates" the rider animation when you close the camera on him again. So e.g. if you see rider's attacking, then they go out of your camera and stop attacking - if you now change the camera to focus on this rider, you'll for a moment see him still in attack animation and then get to his current animation. Not sure if this makes much sense, but yeah it's just some sort of lag Pfft

The Cyclist Editor is the viewer, yes. Just click on View -> Animation and you should get a list of animations Wink (make sure that, when creating the cyclist, you choose the "Cyc_XXXXetc etc.kmf" cyclist mesh, instead of the CTk - CTk is for the track riders, so you only see track animations. Cyc is for the road rider, so you see all animations)
 
Andy3792
The lag is very funny but nothing that disturbs gameplay heavily.

lluuiiggii wrote:
The Cyclist Editor is the viewer, yes. Just click on View -> Animation and you should get a list of animations Wink (make sure that, when creating the cyclist, you choose the "Cyc_XXXXetc etc.kmf" cyclist mesh, instead of the CTk - CTk is for the track riders, so you only see track animations. Cyc is for the road rider, so you see all animations)


Thanks.Wink
There aren't so less animations than I thought.Shock
 
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