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Tired Riders
fickman
I tried to search in the forum for this but I couldnt find it. Is there a Column where I can change the speed of the tired riders??? I find stupid that a rider with 75 + Mo and Hill stats with 40 to 42 effort cant overtake uphill a tired rider with stats 65 - Mo and Hill. Sometimes I try to save some energy and to finish with some energy for the next day and cant overtake tired riders like sprinters using an 40 to 42 effort.

Thnxs in andvance.
 
Lachi
You cannot change the logic of the game in the DB.

But I guess you are doing something wrong.
A 75+ MO/HI rider should never be behind a sprinter in the mountains, how did you do that?

And even if the good rider would be behind, I cannot follow your logic. What makes you believe that these sprinters are tired? Why do you think that you can overtake any rider with an effort as low as 40?
 
fickman
But I guess you are doing something wrong.
A 75+ MO/HI rider should never be behind a sprinter in the mountains, how did you do that?


I made a couple Mountain Stage myself. They are over 250 kms and cumulated climbing over 140 kms. So what I do is send some riders the whole race with effort 40 to 42, that way the would reach the finish line with some energy left. So at the beginning of the race the are behind everyone but then they slowly start to overtake some riders. But at the end of the race even if I have still energy I cant overtake tired riders with worse stats than me. Thats doesent make any sense for me. And I dont try to increase the effort becasuse then I will went out of energy too. And I try to avoid that beacuse a climber without energy is as faster as a sprinter without energy in a Mountain, what doesnt make any sense for me either.

And even if the good rider would be behind, I cannot follow your logic. What makes you believe that these sprinters are tired?

I know they are tired because they are moving diferent than the others with energy. Moving slow left and right. U have sure seen that funny art of riding.

Why do you think that you can overtake any rider with an effort as low as 40?

I thoght if I have a rider with energy and with 80 mountain and 40 effort I should be able to overtake a rider with 65 Mountain and no nergy left. I mean they have NO ENERGY. But I think I am wrong. Thats why I wanted to change the speed of tired riders so that they speed would be 25 effort or something like that.

I hope u can understand what im trying to say.
Edited by fickman on 11-12-2012 23:29
 
lluuiiggii
I understand what you're trying to say, but you can't change the speed of tired riders.
 
Lachi
Now I understand but obviously the game is not programmed to have such stages and allow such tactics. Why do you use this tactic anyway? Having some energy left does not get your riders anywhere if they lose so much time against the other riders. (According to your description, you cannot overtake the weakest sprinters, so the good climbers must be way ahead.)
 
fickman
Thnxs lluuiiggii and Lachi 4 your answer.

Why do you use this tactic anyway? Having some energy left does not get your riders anywhere if they lose so much time against the other riders.

Well I must say I love Mountain Stages, so I made a 10 Stages Mountain Tour. And the only way my weakest domestiques survive the second last Stage is to use that tactic. I use 3 domestiques to protect my leader and bring some water and the rest ride all the way with effort 40 to 42.
 
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