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New create a team career advice
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| Braithwaite1985 |
Posted on 04-10-2012 20:49
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Hi everyone,
So I'm going to start a new career and create my own team, I'm a noob and only played few races but feel confident enough to start I did a dummy run and now I'm ready, I'm using normal difficulty just a few questions....
1) Should I spend all my budget or save some money?
2) Should I focus in certain races like sprints or mountain riders or should I aim for a balanced team and aim for all classifications?
3) I'm going to aim for young riders, below 25
4) do I need to adjust all the training or can I trust the AI to do it for me until I get used to the game
5) regarding the race schedule, can I also leave that to the AI until I fully understand what's happening?
Many thanks for any replies, and further suggestions and advice will be great fully revived |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 04-10-2012 20:56
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1) Well, what you spend all your budget on?  That also depends on the financial difficulty you set at the beginning of the career. If you set Hard for example, you should consider saving some money in case the results don't get there for some time.
2) I say depends on what you like playing. Usually people create balanced teams, with a good sprinter, GC rider, and classics leader, but if you mostly enjoy playing the mountains, you can of course create a team mostly of climbers, or sprinters, etc 
3) Is that a question or an affirmative? But anyway, again depends on how you want to play it.
4) If you mean training as in training stats (and not fitness or something like that), you can leave to the AI, but it's not much hard, takes only some minutes in the beginning of the year basically
5) I'd say leave it to the AI. Some might say the AI does a bad job, but well it'll do about an as good job for you as it'll for the rest of the teams, so I think that's fair You could also consider planning one or two riders (the leaders perhaps) season manually, so you can start getting the hang of it
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| Braithwaite1985 |
Posted on 04-10-2012 21:01
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Wow, thanks for the quick response, I think I'm going to have easier finance difficulty, just cos in new to it, I think I like to play for GC and sprints so that is what I will go for, not done that many mountains so I will leave it if I can.
Thanks for the reply |
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| stu-sgn |
Posted on 04-10-2012 21:04
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Thoughts from a fellow noob:
1) On normal career difficulty the sponsor budget will cover the exact amount of your rider salaries so it doesn't really matter how much you spend when selecting your team. just keep an eye on staff salaries as you'll need to pay for these with race winnings. If you drop down to easy career difficulty you get a little extra $ from your sponsor.
2) With 25 riders you should be able to pick a fairly balanced team. That being said, focus your team on the races you enjoy playing. Flat stages bore me to tears so I don't build a team focused on sprinting.
4) Not sure if you mean training or fitness schedule but I'll assume fitness. I like to adjust my fitness schedule for at least the team leaders and key helpers. Fitness is crucial to performing well in big races so you'll want to make sure your leaders are fit for the right races. That being said, you can always build their schedule around the times of year they have high fitness according to the AI schedule.
5) I think the AI puts you in too many races. When I planned my current season I entered 62 races (31 tours and 31 classics) with a squad of 30 riders and ended up with ~70 race days per rider. Maybe go through the schedule and drop out of a few races that overlap each other on the schedule so you don't have to worry about scheduling conflicts as much. |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 04-10-2012 21:13
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lluuiiggii wrote:
1) Well, what you spend all your budget on? That also depends on the financial difficulty you set at the beginning of the career. If you set Hard for example, you should consider saving some money in case the results don't get there for some time.
Maybe I misread it or it changed in PCM12, but I am pretty sure that it is not possible to save money by not spending all the budget because the career budget is calculated based on the rider salary as mentioned by stu-sgn. |
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| Braithwaite1985 |
Posted on 04-10-2012 21:15
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Ok, great advice, I will look at the schedule and narrow it down
Should I go for minimum 18 riders or max 25?
18 is obviously cheaper but 25 means more races and bigger rotation to rest members?
When I did a dummy run, I had roughly £450,000 to spend on rider salaries and I only spent half of it, was that a waste or will the spare money be useful?
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 04-10-2012 21:18
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Lachi wrote:
lluuiiggii wrote:
1) Well, what you spend all your budget on? That also depends on the financial difficulty you set at the beginning of the career. If you set Hard for example, you should consider saving some money in case the results don't get there for some time.
Maybe I misread it or it changed in PCM12, but I am pretty sure that it is not possible to save money by not spending all the budget because the career budget is calculated based on the rider salary as mentioned by stu-sgn.
Ah, I thought he was talking about in-career, not the budget to create the team
Which also answers:
Braithwaite1985 wrote:
When I did a dummy run, I had roughly £450,000 to spend on rider salaries and I only spent half of it, was that a waste or will the spare money be useful?
No, it'll be a waste.
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| Lachi |
Posted on 04-10-2012 21:19
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I just answered it above. I would spent all the money but still keep it reasonable by not getting Wiggins + Contador + Cancellara + Boonen + Gilbert + Cavendish.
The maximum available budget depends on the scouting also, so if you feel you have way too much money, you could change the scouting factor when starting the career. |
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| stu-sgn |
Posted on 04-10-2012 21:20
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Braithwaite1985 wrote:
Ok, great advice, I will look at the schedule and narrow it down
Should I go for minimum 18 riders or max 25?
18 is obviously cheaper but 25 means more races and bigger rotation to rest members?
When I did a dummy run, I had roughly £450,000 to spend on rider salaries and I only spent half of it, was that a waste or will the spare money be useful?
I like more riders so I can enter more races but if you're not entering any of the GT's you can probably get away with a smaller squad because you can adjust your schedule based on the number of riders you have. If you are working to get promoted to be a WT team you'll want the bigger squad.
The spare money will be lost. After you select your team the sponsor budget is adjusted to equal the salaries of the team you selected. That budget number when picking your team doesn't carry over to the career so you might as well spend all of it. |
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| Braithwaite1985 |
Posted on 04-10-2012 21:31
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Ok, that makes sense, I'm going to keep it realistic and not go for all the best riders, I'm sticking to mainly under 25,
Peter Sagan and chris froome (26 i know) and boson Haagen are riders I like,
Cheers again for advice, it will all help me
What's the main races in a year to aim for and what rider types do u roughly need to have a good result?
I don't really know what giro and vuelta are? |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 04-10-2012 21:40
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The Giro and the Vuelta are the same as the Tour de France, just in Italy and Spain instead.
If you're aiming for a good result in any of those, you'll need a top class climber, otherwise it's not possible.
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| Lachi |
Posted on 04-10-2012 21:43
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If you start with a custom team, you cannot race the giro and vuelta anyway but in the real world, the three biggest races are Tour de France, Vuelta a Espana and Giro d' Italia, taking part in France, Spain and Italy.
The game automatically assigns several races to your team, therefore you could ignore the race selection. You should aim for the highest ranked races but this also does depend on the league, you team will be in. (If I remember correctly this depends on the strength of your squad.) |
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| Braithwaite1985 |
Posted on 04-10-2012 21:50
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Ahh ok, my plan was to race low level races and get a few good results and slowly move up to higher races gradually, I'll get myself a good climber for those
Thanks |
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| Braithwaite1985 |
Posted on 04-10-2012 21:56
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How do I delete my threads once I get enough info I was looking for, or do they stay posted for others to read and gain advice? |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 04-10-2012 22:07
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You can't delete threads. Only admins have that power.
Plus, threads like this aren't deleted once it has fulfilled the purpose. Just leave it like this. 
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 05-10-2012 07:13
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It would be a pretty empty forum if all ueseless/answered threads were deleted  |
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