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Peloton riding 30 km/h before the sprint
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| Joabif |
Posted on 04-07-2012 22:48
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Hey
I have experienced stages, where the peloton - after reeling in my breakaway rider - simply slows down to 30 km/h or so (on the flat), and dropped riders can easily come back, as well as I can attack just before the 3 km mark, and win the stage easily with a non-sprinter.
It has happened with various databases, so it shouldn't be a DB problem. Since the latest patch was cancelled, is this something to bear over with or is there a way to solve the problem?
Edited by Joabif on 14-09-2012 18:42
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| stevemertens |
Posted on 04-07-2012 22:52
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Yes me! The sprints are ridiculous!
The gameplay is too poor at this moment... |
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| larsn91 |
Posted on 05-07-2012 00:20
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I have the same issue. Before every sprint the peleton slows down and there are no relays, sprint trains, or nothing. Everyone just riding their sunday trip. At like 2,5km left, one sprinter starts sprinting, everyone else follows, but there is no positioning or anything, they just start sprinting from their position that they've been riding in at 30 km/h. |
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| Joabif |
Posted on 14-09-2012 18:43
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Hey
I have experienced stages, where the peloton - after reeling in my breakaway rider - simply slows down to 30 km/h or so (on the flat), and dropped riders can easily come back, as well as I can attack just before the 3 km mark, and win the stage easily with a non-sprinter.
It has happened with various databases, so it shouldn't be a DB problem. Since the latest patch was cancelled, is this something to bear over with or is there a way to solve the problem? |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 14-09-2012 23:00
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That's a game problem. Won't be fixed, unfortunately. |
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| Mustneeger |
Posted on 15-09-2012 18:17
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I'm surprised there haven't been more complaints regarding this completely and utterly ridicilous bug. Yes i could do a sprint train to keep the tempo high but i dont want to just to workaround a obvious bug. I dont have neither a strong flat team or top sprinter so it wouldn't be realistic anyway.
Cycling simulator where sprints are broken. Good job Cyanide! The game has tremendous potential but last few years it's been wasted in my opinion. Sorry for offtopic but i'm just so disappointed that they still put out versions that have major bugs never to be fixed (until next versions with other bugs)  |
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| SweatyViking |
Posted on 15-09-2012 18:19
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If you untick "passive AI in multiplayer", it will go away. There seems to be a bug that makes it work in both single and multiplayer... |
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| Mustneeger |
Posted on 15-09-2012 18:23
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SweatyViking wrote:
If you untick "passive AI in multiplayer", it will go away. There seems to be a bug that makes it work in both single and multiplayer...
Strange that i wasn't able to find this. BIG THANKS DUDE! |
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| Joabif |
Posted on 16-09-2012 13:02
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SweatyViking wrote:
If you untick "passive AI in multiplayer", it will go away. There seems to be a bug that makes it work in both single and multiplayer...
I'll try that out. Almost sounds too good to be true. Thanks. |
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| koba |
Posted on 16-09-2012 14:06
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SweatyViking wrote:
If you untick "passive AI in multiplayer", it will go away. There seems to be a bug that makes it work in both single and multiplayer...
If this is true I can return from my 2011 to 2012 version again.
This is a game killer bug and I cannot understant that this get pass by cyanide.
If someome had a good experience with this solution can you please confirmed elso .
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| Mustneeger |
Posted on 16-09-2012 16:42
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Unticking the passive AI in multiplayer is not working for me |
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| pylarz |
Posted on 16-09-2012 16:49
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Mustneeger wrote:
Unticking the passive AI in multiplayer is not working for me
+1
It's really annoying. |
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| Joabif |
Posted on 16-09-2012 23:09
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Joabif wrote:
SweatyViking wrote:
If you untick "passive AI in multiplayer", it will go away. There seems to be a bug that makes it work in both single and multiplayer...
I'll try that out. Almost sounds too good to be true. Thanks.
Turns out, it was too good to be true.
Flat stages are practically unplayable. Strange that so many stories don't mention this bug, it is indeed a game killer. It seems as it isn't an issue for everyone? |
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| MikeS369 |
Posted on 17-09-2012 02:41
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It seems like I did not have this problem until I updated to 1.3. And now I have teams with a man in a break leading a chase. |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 17-09-2012 02:43
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MikeS369 wrote:
It seems like I did not have this problem until I updated to 1.3. And now I have teams with a man in a break leading a chase.
Is their man working in the break though? I've several times a team who has a rider in the break working, and the rider in the break not doing anything.
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| MikeS369 |
Posted on 17-09-2012 03:04
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lluuiiggii wrote:
MikeS369 wrote:
It seems like I did not have this problem until I updated to 1.3. And now I have teams with a man in a break leading a chase.
Is their man working in the break though? I've several times a team who has a rider in the break working, and the rider in the break not doing anything.
Good question. Usually when I'm in a break trying tor the stage win. I drive the break at 60 paceline so none of the others in the break start working until about the 30-40km to go. |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 17-09-2012 03:13
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MikeS369 wrote:
lluuiiggii wrote:
MikeS369 wrote:
It seems like I did not have this problem until I updated to 1.3. And now I have teams with a man in a break leading a chase.
Is their man working in the break though? I've several times a team who has a rider in the break working, and the rider in the break not doing anything.
Good question. Usually when I'm in a break trying tor the stage win. I drive the break at 60 paceline so none of the others in the break start working until about the 30-40km to go.
Why do your burn your rider alone in the front for so long?  That way, if the break makes it the other riders will probably have much more in the tank left to beat you in the end
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| Skippy17 |
Posted on 17-09-2012 03:39
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It's a very frustrating bug, i've only found one way around this and that is to have at least 1 of your riders on relay at the front setting a reasonably fast pace. This will cause the others teams to set up their trains and have a proper sprint. |
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 17-09-2012 03:58
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Maybe not exactly the same issue like above, but in my opinion very similar and also very annoying. I hope you don't mind.
I've just played the Queen's Stage of one of the TDF variants and what I saw was so ridiculous and so annoying that i can barely put this in the right words.
So here's the constellation:
My teamleader is also the leader of race and after the breakaway got an advantage of probably 10-15 Minutes I started to pace them back while sending my domestiques to the front with 75%.
1. On a flat part of the course a pack of 30 riders got dropped suddenly. Mainly sprinters and flat-riders. Not that big issue, because it was just after a descent, so mabye they were already at their limits as they rejoined on the descent. However, when a rider with 72 flat set the pace I usually don't expect to drop those riders which have over 75 in flat.
2. Now on the ascent: My frontrider has 77 in climbing, doing his work on 75%. Suddenly he fall back to the middle of the pack, while the cpu-riders coming to the front but don't making any pace. I thought maybe the 75% weren't enough, so I increased his work-percentage to 80-85, but nothing happened. He couldn't even come to the front, because the other riders blocked the way to the front. It was very annoying, because he had a +4 in shape, so I expected him to do well. This happend almost every time when I send another to the front doing the pace, with the difference that they were even better on climbing, having 78,79 and 81 on climbing.
3. On the last climb I had enough. I put my teamleader (83 climbing) on 85 dot and expected to create a gap or at least to split the group of 25 riders to elite selection. What happened? Nothing. All of them were able to follow while my best rider bit by bit was running out of energy. My super-domestique was also in this group and funny thing about this is, he could stay on the back of the group even he was already out of energy and more annoying: his pulse were lower than my teamleaders. This don't make any sense at all.
4. Then suddenly every cpu-rider began an attack, but always just for a few meters which showed me I'd got them to their limits. But in this years version cpu-riders can attack as often they want to, and so it cames to point where they starting one attack after another, always just for a few meters. Very strange moment, seeing 25 riders starting multiple attacks for about 2-3km's. I mean, are you serious Cyanide? If a rider is at the limit, he can't start an attack, especially not 5 or 6 consecutive attacks while the pace is already very high... 
5. Finally I created a gap of probalby 15 seconds and with 1.5 kilometer to go. I started my sprint on 99% while having almost the half of my red bar left. After this ridicolous mointain-stage I expected at least to win the stage and safe the day. But what happenend then was the gamekiller for me. A. Schleck, who was probably about 30 seconds behind me and in the 2nd chasing group started his sprint as I already were 500 meters to the finish. Not only he passed the group in front of him, he also passed me 50 meters before the mountain-top finish with about 50km/h. Again, 50km/h on slopes with 7-8%. I mean, sorry for these word, but: What the fuck? This was so unreal, I didn't believe what I was seeing.
Finally, this is the point where I go back to play PCM11. Ah yeah, and I was playing on normal.
Edited by bigggassi on 17-09-2012 04:03
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| MikeS369 |
Posted on 17-09-2012 06:41
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lluuiiggii wrote:
MikeS369 wrote:
lluuiiggii wrote:
MikeS369 wrote:
It seems like I did not have this problem until I updated to 1.3. And now I have teams with a man in a break leading a chase.
Is their man working in the break though? I've several times a team who has a rider in the break working, and the rider in the break not doing anything.
Good question. Usually when I'm in a break trying tor the stage win. I drive the break at 60 paceline so none of the others in the break start working until about the 30-40km to go.
Why do your burn your rider alone in the front for so long? That way, if the break makes it the other riders will probably have much more in the tank left to beat you in the end
I have found that it makes the break work more often than if I just rotated at a lower pace.
At 60 I usually recover fully before the tempo is upped. If I don't think I will fully recover before the tempo is upped, I'll just sit on for a bit.
It works for me. I just did it today with a H. Sancho of LA Antarte and won the break sprint. Not a guy with High RES or a good sprint. Took the gel at about 4k for a little extra RES during the sprint.
Edited by MikeS369 on 17-09-2012 06:45
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