Hello. I was wondering if anybody would like to do me a big favour.
I love the game, and been playing the series for a long time. But I hate setting up the season with training and schedules. Ruins the whole experience for me.
I was hoping that a friendly soul out there could help me out. If anyone could upload a savegame from the start of the season with the schedules and training set for the whole (most of the) team I would be eternally grateful.
Was hoping to play with Team Sky and the PcM Spain db. But open to play with other teams as well if needed.
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I would have been happy to upload mine, since I'm doing a career with PCMSpain DB as Sky. But now I'm at the Dauphine, so it's a bit late. I guess I could help you out though if you post all the races you'd like to target.
Teddy The Creator wrote:
I would have been happy to upload mine, since I'm doing a career with PCMSpain DB as Sky. But now I'm at the Dauphine, so it's a bit late. I guess I could help you out though if you post all the races you'd like to target.
Teddy The Creator wrote:
I would have been happy to upload mine, since I'm doing a career with PCMSpain DB as Sky. But now I'm at the Dauphine, so it's a bit late. I guess I could help you out though if you post all the races you'd like to target.
Sounds great Teddy. But think I'll wait til the Daily db is out, and the final patch is out. Maybe you, or someone else can help me then?
Okay, I'll try this again. Tired of waiting for latest patch. I will upload a savegame from 1/1-2012, and hope that a extremely friendly person can help...
What I would love you to help me with is no more than planning my hole season
Have put some of my riders in to different races, and would like you to plan the rest, and to make training regimes. I know this is much to ask (maybe too much, but nothing ventured, nothing gained)
Boonen76
Edit: Don't know if this is needed to know, but it's PCM.daily's db.
Here it is a little suggestion. You have your own reasons not to like the planning part of the game and everybody play the game as they wish. However, why don't you give it a try? You don't need to actually schedule the whole season for every single rider. Besides, the PCM tool for planning the season isn't any good, because it lacks of simple functions such as counting the race days or calculating fitness race for each date. I, for example, don't use that tool at all. When the season starts I just grab a piece of paper and define goals for 3-5 main riders and stick to that. After that, if I have specialists or good secundary riders I define a couple of goals for them and that's all. In any case, being too specific with your schedule has its own drawbacks, for example when injuries or sickness arrive, so I rather have a more flexible plan.
About the training, normally it is better to look at your staff and fire some trainers if they aren't suitable. I normally get 1 good stage races trainer, 1 good climber trainer, 1 good cobblestones trainer and 1 decent overall trainer so to cover all bases. Some people prefer to have quite a few more trainers, more specialized each one but less expensive, so do it as you prefer. All this work can be done in 20-30 minutes if you aren't too picky and you are settled for the first season. For the second one you need even less time because most of the job is already done.
If despite this you prefer somebody to help you out with the planning, I'm sure somebody will do it.
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
Thanks for your feedback, Ildabaoth. I'm sure it's not that hard, but I have tried every version to do it myself. I have tried using Lachis season planner too, but I just don't get it. Use a couple of days, and still not any good I'm just not any good planning seasons, and this ruins my gaming experience
And by training regimes I mean fitness schedules. Sorry if that bit was unclear. Training I actually manage to do myself
If you're really don't want to plan your season, you could simply go with the original planning that the comes brings to you upon starting the career. Some may find it bad and all, but it's as good as the planning for the AI teams (so you're in the same conditions as them). It works better if you play with big teams, with smaller teams the planning won't generally be very good.
I'll try to give you some brief guideline. Whereas Lachi's planner is great, you don't even need a season planner at all. At the beginning of the season choose who will be your GT leaders. Your team normally has 2-3 GT good riders at least, so you can cover all the 3 GTs with them. Additionally, you can always try to do a double giro-vuelta with some of them (that requires a little bit of season planning, but not too much). Afterwards, pick your sprinters for the GTs. Don't bother with bringing not so good sprinters to GTs; they would do a lot better in less important World Tour races. Finally, if you have good 1 day classic or cobblestones riders (good stamina, hill and somewhat resistance for hill races), pick them for the Ardennes, MSR, Paris Roubaix, RVV, San Sebastián, World Championships and so on. While this work may seem lenghty, with a sheet of paper and the screen of attributes of your riders it can be done in less than 10 minutes. Keep in mind riders have prefered races, where they have a small bonus, so they perform better in those. Done that, you are settled for the main World Tour races.
Since the main part of the World Tour season is already covered, it is time to focus on one week races. If your team is strong, you can send some GT lieutenants there instead of your main riders, but you can also define GTs and 1 week races as goals for your best cyclists as soon as they aren't too close in the schedule (otherwise you need to program a lenghty peak which consumes a lot of energy). These races are also a nice opportunity for sprinters who aren't so great. You can use a sheet of paper again and fill in every WT race with the rider you plan to be the leader.
Finally, if you feel like doing it, you can define some goals for secondary riders. For example, you can pick some decent climbers and make sure your fitness program starts aggresive, so to be in great form since the beginning of the season. That way they will be in form to contest February and March races.
Now about the fitness program. Don't bother with defining custom programs for more than just 6-7 riders in the first season, not to be overwhelmed. Lets say, for example, you have a great hilly and GT rider, so you want him to contest the Ardennes and the Tour. You need 1 peak for the Ardennes, so start a new custom program and make sure you have a 100% training by that week. Afterwards, put a couple of peaks for the second and third week of the Tour. Normally, if you put 3 peaks in a season you need not to put any additional 80% week (besides those needed to reach the 100% ones) so not to fatigue your rider too much. During the season make sure your rider has good race fitness for both the Ardennes and the Tour, so you can race about 15-20 days before the Ardennes and 10-15 days before the Tour, for a full season of almost 60 days. With practice you can tweak this so that the same rider can constest, for example, Ardennes, Tour and Vuelta, buy you need to be more careful with peaks and race days for that.
As a general rule, don't put more than 3 100% weeks training per season and put them in critic weeks of the season. GTs riders don't need great fitness and race fitness at the beginning of a GT, so you can slightly neglect race fitness for them, but for sprinters make sure they have quite a few race days before an important race. For the rest of your team just leave their default fitness programs. Again, with practice you can provide them with custom programs so to fit their goals.
This guideline was mainly for a World Tour team. If you have a Pro Continental or a Continental team, you can't be sure you will be invited to any World Tour race (with a continental one, you won't be invited at all), so you will do it better by defining custom programs for more likely races or having a plan B, such as the TOC instead of the Giro.
I'll try to open your savegame and create custom programs for Froome, Wiggins and Urán, so you have an idea. If I success, I will upload it over here.
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
Ildabaoth wrote:
I'll try to give you some brief guideline.
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I'll try to open your savegame and create custom programs for Froome, Wiggins and Urán, so you have an idea. If I success, I will upload it over here.
I gotta say, that was an extremely helpful post of you, I'm sure he'll get much out of it
Done. I made custom programs for Wiggins, Froome and Urán. Wiggins is focused on the Tour, but he has quite good fitness to contest Paris-Nice, Volta a Catalunya and the World ITT Championships. He can, for example, race 10 days before Paris-Nice, 10 days before the Tour and 10 days before the ITT, for a total of slightly over 60 days.
Froome is focused on La Vuelta, with an earlier peak for PaÃs Vasco. Remember to race a few days before both targets so to have good race fitness for them. You can always delete that peak and, instead, do an steady 80% for the Giro or the Tour, so to help Urán or Wiggins.
Finally, Urán is focused on the Ardennes and the Giro. His training program is very aggressive, so it is very short too. But this way he can easily achieve top 3 in both the Ardennes and the Giro, or even win it if you manage to. Since the Ardennes are 1 day races, race fitness is very important, so try to arrive to them in the highest possible race fitness. If you rather have a more extensive schedule for him, you can eliminate his peak for the Ardennes and make him a luxury team mate for Wiggins or Froome at la Vuelta or the Giro, but frankly Sky do have enough team mates with Henao, Rogers, Sitsou and Porte, so I guess it is better to race each GT with just one of your team leaders so they can have more broad goals.
If you are into roleplaying, so you want to achieve your sponsor goals, send Cavendish and Boasson Hagen to contest the points ranking at Tour and Vuelta, Cavendish to win MSR and some good GC rider to contest the Tour of Suisse (*wink Henao wink*). The sponsors idea of you winning RVV and Paris-Roubaix is kind of complicated, specially if you play on hard, but you can always give it a try with Flecha (or at least complicated for me; I suck on cobblestones). The other goals are already covered by Froome, Urán and Wiggins.
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
It's in French but you can look the groups he makes.
Holy cow. I never used the game do to this and I cannot believe how complicated, tedious, cumbersome and strange it is to do it in the game.
It is so much easier with my season planner, if only these stupid cyanide guys would not have removed the stage type information for the database.
Ildabaoth wrote:
Done. I made custom programs for Wiggins, Froome and Urán. Wiggins is focused on the Tour, but he has quite good fitness to contest Paris-Nice, Volta a Catalunya and the World ITT Championships. He can, for example, race 10 days before Paris-Nice, 10 days before the Tour and 10 days before the ITT, for a total of slightly over 60 days.
Froome is focused on La Vuelta, with an earlier peak for PaÃs Vasco. Remember to race a few days before both targets so to have good race fitness for them. You can always delete that peak and, instead, do an steady 80% for the Giro or the Tour, so to help Urán or Wiggins.
Finally, Urán is focused on the Ardennes and the Giro. His training program is very aggressive, so it is very short too. But this way he can easily achieve top 3 in both the Ardennes and the Giro, or even win it if you manage to. Since the Ardennes are 1 day races, race fitness is very important, so try to arrive to them in the highest possible race fitness. If you rather have a more extensive schedule for him, you can eliminate his peak for the Ardennes and make him a luxury team mate for Wiggins or Froome at la Vuelta or the Giro, but frankly Sky do have enough team mates with Henao, Rogers, Sitsou and Porte, so I guess it is better to race each GT with just one of your team leaders so they can have more broad goals.
If you are into roleplaying, so you want to achieve your sponsor goals, send Cavendish and Boasson Hagen to contest the points ranking at Tour and Vuelta, Cavendish to win MSR and some good GC rider to contest the Tour of Suisse (*wink Henao wink*). The sponsors idea of you winning RVV and Paris-Roubaix is kind of complicated, specially if you play on hard, but you can always give it a try with Flecha (or at least complicated for me; I suck on cobblestones). The other goals are already covered by Froome, Urán and Wiggins.
I hope this was helpful.
What can I say?? Extremely grateful for your help, Ildabaoth!!
What can I say?? Extremely grateful for your help, Ildabaoth!!
Can't wait to start this save
No problem, mate. But keep in mind I didn't plan to create your whole season fitness program, but just that of some of your best riders so you could have a general idea of how to create your own program. Don't forget to create custom programs for at least Cavendish, Boasson Hagen and Flecha (but with such a good team you could personalize the programs of some other riders too, so they can achieve their own particular less important goals).
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
I will use this thread for my question, to not create the similar new one. The thing is i am lame in doing custom fitness plans,despite playing the game for years. I always choose one from the predefined ones which suit my riders, but now i think it is finally time to give it a shot.
One thing i need to know is how it works, especially how many lower levels i need for the higher one? I was always lost in that when i tried it, probably iwas not patient enough.
Maybe just redirect me somewhere where can i read about it, i cant find anything much useful with search function.Thanks...
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
One thing i need to know is how it works, especially how many lower levels i need for the higher one? I was always lost in that when i tried it, probably iwas not patient enough.
It is in the manual of the game if I am not mistaken.
A rider cannot reach level 6 fitness without
first passing 3 weeks at level 5. Nor can he reach level 5 without first passing 3 weeks at level 4.
But as always Cyanide guys are lazy so we have to complete :
to reach level 4 you must pass 2 weeks on level 3, to reach level 3 you must past 2 week on level 2 and of course you can reach level 2 when you want .
Finnally, as i read in other thread, don't pass more than 3 week a year on level 6 as it's to much Fatigue.
Some people including me don't even go to level 6 as it take a lot of fatigue for a minimal gain, i read on an other thread level 6 is 80 Fitness where level 5 is 77.
I'm just not any good planning seasons, and this ruins my gaming experience 
