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Updated Stats 07/10 {Final Update-End of season} [DOWNLOAD]
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Updated Stats 07/10 {Final Update-End of season} [DOWNLOAD]
Works with PCM.daily 2012 DB V2:
First install PCM.daily's 2012 DB V1
https://pcmdaily.c...hp?did=836
Second install PCM.daily's 2012 DB V2 Public Beta - V1 Update
https://pcmdaily.c...hp?did=842
Stats are based on 2012 season results. The point of my updated DB is to play realistic single races and classics. You can as well play career using my db because I adjust riders' potential to experience their development in the future.
Take a look at stats:
https://public.sh...07-10-2012
Click edit on blue background and sort by column you are interested in and see stats.
Download:
https://hotfile.c...2.cdb.html
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https://www.speedy...0.2012.cdb
Startlist Pack (78 races, thx to pylarz for creating most of startlists):
https://hotfile.c...8.rar.html
or
https://www.speedy....08.18.rar
Next update: When necessary.
Note: You should tick random fitness in options, because I set rider's fitness so even though Gilbert is 83 HIL he will ride on the same level as Gasparotto HIL 78, Vanendert HIL 78 etc, Hesjedal will beat Sca/Bass in the mountains, Pinot will beat Evans etc, "nah-mean"  .
PCM 2012 Updates - https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=23810
It takes me few hours to test those stats so feel free to comment and give feedback.
Enjoy!
Edited by carmelobymelo on 07-10-2012 11:56
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| ppanther |
Posted on 15-04-2012 22:26
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 15-04-2012 23:15
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It's pretty nice that you're doing these stat updates and sharing them with us, but I think it would be better if you kept it all in one thread and changed the title and first post of the thread upon the new updates.
Btw, I like how you give stats to the riders not only based on results, but on what you think is their real skill + their form (so Gilbert is the best in HIL but will ride Ardennes with bad shape in single race mode)
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 15-04-2012 23:21
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lluuiiggii wrote:
It's pretty nice that you're doing these stat updates and sharing them with us, but I think it would be better if you kept it all in one thread and changed the title and first post of the thread upon the new updates.
Btw, I like how you give stats to the riders not only based on results, but on what you think is their real skill + their form (so Gilbert is the best in HIL but will ride Ardennes with bad shape in single race mode)
Thanks for comment, I will try to post all updates in this thread. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 16-04-2012 07:28
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i think giving Gilbert 2 points better hill stat than the rest is much generous, he is not above therest obviously. This is 2012 database, not who was best last year and Gilbert is not the best puncher in 2012. Nice to see Sagan stats updated in hills and endurance.
Still nice to have you doing this work, but rather wait for all the classics maybe, because some riders (Kreuziger, Nibali etc...) are not racing or saving themselves for L-B-L, so there is no need to lower their hill stat.
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 16-04-2012 10:41
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
i think giving Gilbert 2 points better hill stat than the rest is much generous, he is not above therest obviously. This is 2012 database, not who was best last year and Gilbert is not the best puncher in 2012. Nice to see Sagan stats updated in hills and endurance.
Still nice to have you doing this work, but rather wait for all the classics maybe, because some riders (Kreuziger, Nibali etc...) are not racing or saving themselves for L-B-L, so there is no need to lower their hill stat.
As I wrote in first post, despite his 83 HIL he will ride april's classics one the same level as 78 HIL Gasparotto. HIL stat is not the only thing that does matter in rider's performance. I'm sure when Gilbert is back in his best he won't have troubles to win hilly races. I tested this DB a lot of times and he finishes in first group but can't win. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 16-04-2012 11:00
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I understand, but what sense it has to give Gilbert minus form in March and April, when he should be on the top fitness. In real 2012 he sucked at his fitness peaks (March and April) and with the bonus fitness you gave him in later months he will be 84,85 again, and maybe he will suck even more than....
But nevermind i am playing with your stats as i like them in general, keep up the good work.
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 16-04-2012 11:19
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I understand, but what sense it has to give Gilbert minus form in March and April, when he should be on the top fitness. In real 2012 he sucked at his fitness peaks (March and April) and with the bonus fitness you gave him in later months he will be 84,85 again, and maybe he will suck even more than....
But nevermind i am playing with your stats as i like them in general, keep up the good work.
You can's say what will happen in the future, stats will be updated each month to enjoy the game and if Gilbert won't find his form then his stats will be decreased. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 16-04-2012 11:44
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carmelobymelo wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I understand, but what sense it has to give Gilbert minus form in March and April, when he should be on the top fitness. In real 2012 he sucked at his fitness peaks (March and April) and with the bonus fitness you gave him in later months he will be 84,85 again, and maybe he will suck even more than....
But nevermind i am playing with your stats as i like them in general, keep up the good work.
You can's say what will happen in the future, stats will be updated each month to enjoy the game and if Gilbert won't find his form then his stats will be decreased.
Sure, but when i play career mode with the database, Gilbert will be at 80 hills in April and 84 in August e.g. which is funny. But is very good system for one-day classics. I appreciate your work anyway, it is good you are doing it.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 16-04-2012 11:46
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 16-04-2012 11:47
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
carmelobymelo wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I understand, but what sense it has to give Gilbert minus form in March and April, when he should be on the top fitness. In real 2012 he sucked at his fitness peaks (March and April) and with the bonus fitness you gave him in later months he will be 84,85 again, and maybe he will suck even more than....
But nevermind i am playing with your stats as i like them in general, keep up the good work.
You can's say what will happen in the future, stats will be updated each month to enjoy the game and if Gilbert won't find his form then his stats will be decreased.
Sure, but when i play career mode with the database, Gilbert will be at 80 hills in April and 85 in August e.g. which is funny. But is very good system for one-day classics. I appreciate your work anyway, it is good you are doing it.
The point of my DB is to play more realistic single races, if you play career then you should use PCM.daily 2012 DB. |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 16-04-2012 16:49
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I understand, but what sense it has to give Gilbert minus form in March and April, when he should be on the top fitness. In real 2012 he sucked at his fitness peaks (March and April) and with the bonus fitness you gave him in later months he will be 84,85 again, and maybe he will suck even more than....
Exactly, he gives Gilbert the best HIL stat by far even if he hasn't showed it in 2012 so far, and then decreases Gilbert's form in March and April, just like it is in real life. Gilbert hasn't 'decreased', he just isn't in his best form this year (yet, since he's probably looking for the Worlds).
We had expected Gilbert to be in top form by now, but what is happening is that he isn't; that is reflected in this DB. But remember this will only apply to single races, not career mode.
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 18-04-2012 16:03
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New Update in 1st post - https://pcmdaily.c...ost_499156 |
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 18-04-2012 16:13
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Everyone who downloaded DB to the time i posted this reply, please re-download as i uploaded wrong file. sorry |
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 18-04-2012 16:27
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Sorry once again, DB editor was failing to correct Rodriguez fitness but now it's all working fine, Purito is a hilly beast
PS: To make sure you have correct DB please re-download. Sorry for troubles.
Edited by carmelobymelo on 18-04-2012 16:28
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| ThaBomb99 |
Posted on 18-04-2012 16:39
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I think that Mollema's stats can be +1 or +2 he was 7th today. |
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 18-04-2012 16:42
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ThaBomb99 wrote:
I think that Mollema's stats can be +1 or +2 he was 7th today.
I think we should wait for LBL and then make final corrections. (Mollema has a +2 fitness so he will race well) |
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 18-04-2012 16:50
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Purito Rodriguez he show many times (and today) in hills maybe the best. I think J. Rodriguez minimum could be 82 |
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 18-04-2012 16:52
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AiZaK wrote:
Purito Rodriguez he show many times (and today) in hills maybe the best. I think J. Rodriguez minimum could be 82
I thought the same and gave him 82 |
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 22-04-2012 18:44
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New Update in 1st post - https://pcmdaily.c...ost_499156 |
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Posted on 29-04-2012 18:20
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New Update in 1st post - https://pcmdaily.c...ost_499156 |
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