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Time limit
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| fickman |
Posted on 23-01-2012 23:21
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How can u calculate the time limit in a stage? |
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| Hesjedal |
Posted on 25-01-2012 06:20
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The time limit is a precentage of the winning time.
As far as i know the precentage changes depending wether it is a short or long stage.
prologues dont have time limits though!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 25-01-2012 06:29
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In PCM it's not calculated that way though. Otherwise lots of riders would be eliminated immediately after the very first mountain stage.
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 25-01-2012 14:47
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In my custom team career, stage 19 to Alpe du Huez, nearly 60 riders were elinimated leaving 112 left in the race, including nearly all the sprinters. This happened because I attacked with my leader Valverde, Pinot, Martin and Astarloza ont he first climb. Practically ruined the race.
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| Blackbeard |
Posted on 01-02-2012 01:30
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Ste117 wrote:
In my custom team career, stage 19 to Alpe du Huez, nearly 60 riders were elinimated leaving 112 left in the race, including nearly all the sprinters. This happened because I attacked with my leader Valverde, Pinot, Martin and Astarloza ont he first climb. Practically ruined the race.
I think in real life its up to the judges whether the elimination rule will be in forced so that a scenario like happened in your race will not happen. Eliminating 60 riders from any stage race, especially the marquee sprinters would be a disaster for any race promoter.
I had this happen to me in a mountain stage. too. I really didn't mind much because I figured I wouldn't have any competition in the few sprint stages that were left. Thats is until I realized that 2 of my sprinters were kicked too. lol
I find that the most riders don't finish races in the the ones that have cobbles. Plus its a one day race so it doesn't matter really.
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| fickman |
Posted on 02-02-2012 23:51
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Guys is this normal or is the AI "cheating" again only because i wasnt in that group?
Edited by fickman on 02-02-2012 23:52
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 03-02-2012 00:13
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What is supposed to be normal? The fact the last riders got there 1h35 later yet only about 12 abandoned?
If yes, then it's normal. A stage with 6 big (huge) mountains and 285 km would take hours and hours for the leader to get to the finish. Therefore the time cut would be very big. Btw, what do you mean with "AI 'cheating' again?'
Btw, talking about time cut irl, here you can see how the time cut is calculated on the TdF (% of winning time concerning stage difficulty and avg speed):
https://www.active.com/cycling/tourdef...France.htm
Should be noted though that in PCM TTTs and TTs don't have a time cut. On the other hand it doesn't affect recovery (or at least you can't manipulate how much it affects), so it doesn't really matter.
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| fickman |
Posted on 03-02-2012 00:35
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Thnxs lluuiiggii |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 03-02-2012 15:24
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I hardly ever see any rider being forced to abandon due to time limits. In the Giro only 6 rider came outside the time limit, 10 in the Vuelta.
It's almost a bit annoying to see so few rider eliminated. |
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| fickman |
Posted on 03-02-2012 15:35
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And it is really annoying to see that only if one of your riders is in the last group, then the computer decides to kick them out other wise not.  |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 03-02-2012 15:36
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fickman wrote:
And it is really annoying to see that only if one of your riders is in the last group, then the computer decides to kick them out other wise not.
How can you know if they were not to be kicked?
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| fickman |
Posted on 03-02-2012 15:42
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I cant be sure but if suspicius that I only see lots of cyclist kicked out when i am in the same group. |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 03-02-2012 16:08
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fickman wrote:
I cant be sure but if suspicius that I only see lots of cyclist kicked out when i am in the same group.
Honestly I don't think Cyanide would insert that into the game. Why do extra work just to create something unfair?
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| Lachi |
Posted on 03-02-2012 16:50
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I'm sure Cyanide does cheat, also I am sure that Mark Cavendish is an alien.  |
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