|
Protection while riding on own effort
|
| kwkke10 |
Posted on 21-09-2011 11:53
|
Stagiare
Posts: 201
Joined: 27-04-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
When i am riding with my leader on own effort at a climb and i protect him with another rider, my leader has the same heartrate then when he rides alone. So is it usefull to protect your leader when he is riding on dot?
|
| |
|
|
| dienblad |
Posted on 21-09-2011 12:10
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3772
Joined: 10-09-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
To me, the protection is only useful if your leader crashes, or gets a puncture. Then there is someone with him to bring him back.
Protection doesn't mean (as far as I think) that he can ride up a mountain with less effort (on the flat, it's easier to use less energy out of the wind).
|
| |
|
|
| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 21-09-2011 18:05
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8542
Joined: 30-07-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
Well I've always experienced my leader having a smaller effort when being protected, on all kinds of terrain. Also, in longer stage races, protecting is also good to preserve more green (from my experiences).
|
| |
|
|
| Roman |
Posted on 21-09-2011 20:51
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4386
Joined: 29-05-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
From my experience, protection is really useful thing which can help you win races, it saves a lot of energy for your leader. I can say - without protection I would never win Milano San Remo with Bennati, because he wouldn't stay in the front group if he would ride on his own in last kms over Cipressa and Poggio.
|
| |
|
|
| kwkke10 |
Posted on 21-09-2011 21:10
|
Stagiare
Posts: 201
Joined: 27-04-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
I know protection is good, but is it usefull if i protect when my leader is riding on own effort? Because it hr stays the same
|
| |
|
|
| Treco |
Posted on 22-09-2011 16:01
|
Amateur
Posts: 4
Joined: 26-07-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
Well if you set his own effort at 80 he will always ride with a heart rate equal to an effort of 80. The different is the speed.
If he is alone he suffers more from wind and will not be able to go as fast.
If he is being protected, the guy in front of him is taking a lot of the wind and he will be able to go faster. This will deplete your protector really fast as he would have to go well above 80(if they have same skill) to keep in front of your leader.
What I find weird is when protecting my leader on a climb(leader is just keeping position) is that the guy I use to protect looses energy a lot faster than if he was just keeping position himself. |
| |
|
|
| Ad Bot |
Posted on 24-11-2024 14:04
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
| IP: None |
|
|
| cactus-jack |
Posted on 22-09-2011 16:25
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3936
Joined: 31-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Treco wrote:
Well if you set his own effort at 80 he will always ride with a heart rate equal to an effort of 80. The different is the speed.
If he is alone he suffers more from wind and will not be able to go as fast.
If he is being protected, the guy in front of him is taking a lot of the wind and he will be able to go faster. This will deplete your protector really fast as he would have to go well above 80(if they have same skill) to keep in front of your leader.
What I find weird is when protecting my leader on a climb(leader is just keeping position) is that the guy I use to protect looses energy a lot faster than if he was just keeping position himself.
I've experienced that to. It seems that the game is programmed in such as way so that the protecting rider will allways use more energy then the one he is protection, no matter what. |
| |
|
|
| YvesStevens |
Posted on 22-09-2011 16:45
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1147
Joined: 29-07-2011
PCM$: 300.00
|
pretty.... stupid |
| |
|
|
| Lachi |
Posted on 22-09-2011 17:11
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8516
Joined: 29-06-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
No it is not. You just don't understand the logic behind it. |
| |
|
|
| kwkke10 |
Posted on 22-09-2011 19:20
|
Stagiare
Posts: 201
Joined: 27-04-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Its normal that he uses more energy because he will take more wind
|
| |
|
|
| kwkke10 |
Posted on 22-09-2011 19:21
|
Stagiare
Posts: 201
Joined: 27-04-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
And thanks for the explaination
|
| |
|
