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Your Man-Game Dream Team
Heine
I'm a bit bored and though we could make our own "dream teams" within the rules of the pro-tour. So what do you do is you open up the db of last year, take the riders you want and make your team inside the rules. Just for fun ofc, and in the end you can explain your team. This is also a good way for people to check out the db before renewals and transfer season ;-)

Rules:

Max wage: 3.500.000 (Like the Pro Tour)
Minimum number of riders: 20
Maximum number of riders: 30
No riders from free agents, wage used is the same as in the DB from last season. Note that some (like Kiserlovski) got wrong wage

To get it going here are my team:


GC Leaders:
Taylor Phinney (545 000)
Vincenzo Nibali (450 000)

Cobbleleaders:
Adam Blythe (375 000)
Pieter Vanspeybrouck (170 000)

Hilly leaders:
Edvald Boasson Hagen (454 000)

Sprinters:
Matthew Goss (250 000)
Juan Van Heerden (275 000)

Domestiques:
Magno Nazaret (125 000)
Andrei Grivko (110 000)
Jelle Vanendert (95 000)
Kevin Van Impe (65 000)
Mark Renshaw (60 000)
Igor Abakoumov (50 000)
Gatis Smukulis (50 000)
Cyril Gautier (50 000)
Yoann Offredo (50 000)
Dietmar Mehr-Wenige (67 900)
Adrian Laidler (50 000)
Jairo Agudelo (70 000)
Moises Dueñas (65 000)
Jaime Suaza (50 000)

Total: 3 476 900 (21 riders)


I decided first that I wanted a team with Phinney as one of the leaders since I think that he is one of the best in the game (and would lead my TDF squad), then I decided that I wanted an Italian leader for the Giro and decided on Nibali. I also gave them some climbers as helpers (Suaza, Dueñas, Agudelo, Nazaret and Grivko), that could support them. I decided to not concentrate on Time Trialists and rather destroy the others in the mountains.

For the cobbled classics this team would go with 2 leaders in Blythe and Vanspeybrouck, the latter being the clear number one on cobbles in the CT last year. Both are pretty cheap and would imo give good points together. To support them I took among other Van Impe.

I had decided before starting this that I wanted Hagen, he would get support from Grivko, Vanendert, Mehr-Wenige etc. I think the hill part of my team is weaker than the other parts of the team but that Hagen would score a nice amount of points for the team and that a rider could Vanendert might sneak in some points.

The last part of the team is the sprinter part, here I also decided to go for 2 strong CT riders, in Goss and Van Heerden. They are both sprinters that could get wins both in GTs and smaller tours. They got help from riders like Renshaw and Abakumov who was mostly selected for their low wage and sprinter stat.


This was my "dream team", a team that would in my opinion win the Pro Tour without any problem (yeah, it is a team that would be impossible to get, but it's under the wage cap ;-))
 
mb2612
Alarcon is definitely missing from your team.
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Heine
Good point, he dissapeared somewhere in my planning. Could atleast throw out Nazaret for him
 
lluuiiggii
Lol, Magno Nazaret there \o/ what are his stats?
 
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Heine
80 in climbing, 71 hills and some nice other stats, he's a nice domestique
 
Crommy
Trying to do my own (and looking at yours) makes me realise how good some of the ProTour teams are (definitely do not include my team in this). I would definitely disagree your team would be a certainty for the title (I'll admit it would be a strong favourite), but I'm glad you picked 1 of my riders \o/

But the more important point: I don't see Theo Bos anywhere in your selection Pfft
Edited by Crommy on 21-04-2011 21:26
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Rin
No one from my team, I'm doing great I think^^
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No Festinas either Smile

I'll try to make my team aswell...
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Smowz
Here goes:

Stage racers
1PluchkinB & O620,000Le Tour
2ContadorFestina520,000Vuelta
3GhiselbertiLipton230,000Giro
Classics
4Boesson HagenB & O454,000Hilly
5BurghardtWikipedia575,000Cobbles
Sprinters
6Van StayenJack Wolf240,000
7GuereoSanta60,000
8DumoilenPoker75,000
9DrujonAuber60,000
10TollesonMercedes60,000
Domestiques
11D CarusoWiggle80,000Hilly
12ViscontiStarbucks75,000Hilly
13MedvedevVesuvio55,000Climb
14PechorramonPhillips60,000Climb
15VasquezLa Gazzetta60,000Climb
16FordVesuvio75,000TT
17FlensLa Gazzetta50,000TT
18Stannard100% Me50,000TT
19LadagnousPend50,000
20SmukalisBacardi50,000
Total3,499,000


This is for pcm09 by the way! I think strategies would play out differently in pcm10.

Anyway Pluchkin for the Tour and a couple of other stage races. Contador for the Vuelta and maybe races like the Volta and the Tour of the Basque country. Ghiselberti as a bit of an outside top 10 gamble at the Giro - I noticed Castano and Marzano did well there despite not really being the best.

Monuments are worth a cashload of points so it is important to have Burghardt and Bo Hagen two guys capable of delivering podium places.

Van Stayen is the top level sprinter, Guereo was excellent at the Vuelta... Dumoulin, Drujon and Tolleson could strike and also be uber lead outs.

In the domestiques there are three usefull men against the clock along with potential stage winners in Caruso and Visconti who can double up as luxury domestiques for Bo Hagen and in GTours. Medvedev was excellent all year for Vesuvio as were Pecherramon and Vasquez for their teams. Ladagnous and Smukalis are pretty good considering their 50,000 wage.
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wackojackohighcliffe
Yes. Made two dream teams. I'm not sure I can bear doing this and then see how badly I fail to get anywhere near it.
 
alexkr00
Interesting idea. But it's important how you define your dream team. I don't see the fun in choosing only the best deals on the market. Nationality and specialization would also have an impact for me. I'll try to post mine later.
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Waghlon
Hmm... My man-game dream team... Can't i just pick CrueTrue's team?
Edited by Waghlon on 22-04-2011 10:50
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rjc_43
I think I agree in part with Alexkr00. I made my team based more on nationality and who I like/dislike, which is also the way I play the man game anyway!


GC Leaders:
CarusoGianpaoloITACredit Lyonais80 Mountain€ 530,000
CataldoDarioITAWiggle78 Mountain€ 198,000
PetrovEvgeniRUSTinkoff77 Mountain€ 185,000
Puncheurs:
PonziSimoneITAWiggle79 Hill€ 140,000
BellisJonathanGBRCilit Bang78 Hill€ 225,000
CarusoDamianoITAWiggle78 Hill€ 80,000
Cobblers:
BlytheAdamGBR100% ME81 Cobbles€ 375,000
Sprinters:
RoweLukeGBRWiggle79 Sprint€ 410,000
TrusovNikolaiRUSTinkoff78 Sprint€ 85,000
Time Trialers:
IgnatievMikhailRUSWiggle80 Time Trial€ 610,000
StannardIanGBR100% ME79 Time Trial€ 50,000
TennantAndrewGBR100% ME75 Time Trial€ 95,000
Domestiques:
FennAndrewGBRWiggle74 Cobbles€ 50,000
RoweMattGBRWiggle76 Sprint€ 60,000
DiggleTomGBRWiggle75 Hill€ 50,000
CostagliTeodoroITAWiggle73 Mountain€ 50,000
PavarinMarcelloITAWiggle74 Hill€ 50,000
KlimovSergeiRUSTinkoff73 Sprint€ 50,000
SerovAleksandrRUSTinkoff70 Time Trial€ 50,000
SantambrogioMauroITALa Gazetta75 Flat€ 65,000
RovnyIvanRUSTinkoff74 Hill€ 90,000
€ 3,498,000

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alexkr00
So here's mine, a team with lots of time - trial specialists and almost no sprinters. Also there are only 3 nationalities and 19,000 euros left in the salary cap.

Leaders
Robert Gesink€800,000NEDJack Wolfskin
Thomas Dekker€950,000NEDPhilips

TTT Riders
DominiqueCornu370,000BELJack Wolfskin
Joost Posthuma€211,000NEDJack Wolfskin
Denis Van Winden€90,000NEDLa Gazzetta
RickFlens€50,000NEDLa Gazzetta
KoenDe Kort€90,000NEDJack Wolfskin
KristoffVandewalle50,000BELLa Gazzetta
MarcelKittel€80,000GERVesuvio

GT Domestiques
Robin van der Hugenhaben€90,000NEDJack Wolfskin
TimDees€90,000NEDFestina
Serge Pauwels50,000BELSony Ericsson
Andreas Kloden60,000GERCafé de Colombia

Classics Specialists
SebastianLangeveld100,000NEDAuber
LaurensTen Dam100,000NEDJack Wolfskin
MarcelSieberg100,000GERJack Wolfskin

Domestiques
PaulMartens50,000GERJack Wolfskin
Klaas Sys€50,000BELJack Wolfskin
MichelKreder€50,000NEDJack Wolfskin
Wout Poels€50,000NEDJack Wolfskin

Edited by alexkr00 on 22-04-2011 11:19
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mb2612
I've gone with an all Spanish team, which should be competitive, if not as good as some of the other teams

Stage Racers
ContadorAlberto83 MoFestina - Corona€ 520,000
ValverdeAlejandro81 Mo/HiCafé de Colombia€ 1,050,000
TenorioJusto79 MoSantander€ 225,000

Contador because he should be good, Valverde because he is good and Tenorio because he is cheap.

Hill Specialists
Rodriguez OliverJoaquin79 HiPhilips - TDC€ 410,000

Helped out by Valverde, J-Rod is pretty much the only option who comes at a decent price.

Cobbled leaders
FlechaJuan-Antonio79 CoWarner Brothers€ 115,000

I lack much choice here

Sprinters
VentosoFrancisco78 SPSantander€ 250,000
GueraoÓscar79 SpSantander€ 60,000

Ventoso seems very suited to PT flat stages, while Guerao is Spains best sprinter and also good value.

Mountain helpers
MadrazoAngel78 MoSantander€ 170,000
PecharromanJosé Antonio77 MoPhilips - TDC€ 60,000
Fernández OliveiraLuis76 MoSony Ericsson€ 50,000
DueñasMoises76 MoPetronas - Olympus€ 65,000
MayoIban75 MoPirelli - Internazionale€ 70,000
Hernández GutierrezAitor74 MoSantander€ 60,000
GonzaloEduardo74 MoSantander€ 60,000
NozalIsidro74 MoPirelli - Internazionale€ 55,000

Strength in depth here, our leaders should be well protected on the steep stuff

Hilly Helpers
ZaballaConstantino76 HiEnergie-Diesel€ 60,000
PasamontesLuis75 HiMercedes-Benz€ 60,000
GrauJordi74 HiUniCredit€ 55,000
RoviraJaume73 HiPendleton's Twicer€ 55,000

More generic domestiques

Breakaway specialist
Rodríguez SegarraRafael75 SpLa Gazzetta dello Sport€ 50,000

The perfect breakaway rider, also very cheap.

Only 20 riders, and not a strong time trial team, but they should still have a decent shot at glory
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roturn
You just failed in the finances Wink
~500k to much I think.
 
mb2612
I'm pretty certain mine adds up to 3,500,000
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roturn
Well, I correct myself, I failed in Maths. Maybe I should stop studying it Wink

I must have mixed the "0" and "5" of Valverde`s salary. Embarassed
 
Kami
Stage racers
Riccardo Ricco €890.000 ITA Bacaradi 82 MO
Vincenzo Nibali €413.000 ITA Domina Vacanze 81 MO
Rein Taaramae €480.000 EST Ikea 80 MO


Puncheurs
Diego Ulissi €250.000 ITA Festina 79 HI
Damiano Caruso €80.000 ITA Wiggle 78 HI


Cobblers
Nikolas Maes €210.000 BEL Auber 79 CO


Sprinters
Matthew Goss €250.000 AUS Bacardi 82 SP
Peter Kennaugh €250.000 GBR 100% ME 81 SP


TT'ers
Dennis Van Winden €80.000 NED La Gazzetta 80 TT
Maxime Bouet €90.000 FRA Auber 76 TT


Helpers
Igor Abakoumov €50.000 BEL Petronas 77 SP
Gatis Smukulis €50.000 LAT Bacardi 75 FL
Marcelo Pavarin €50.000 ITA Wiggle 74 HI
Artjom Timofeev €50.000 RUS Wikipedia 77 SP
Matea Kvasina €50.000 CRO Vesuvio 74 MO
Matteo Bono € 50.000 ITA La Gazzetta 73 HI
Moris Possoni € 50.000 ITA La Gazzetta 74 MO
Jos Van Emden €50.000 NED Jack Wolfskin 73 TT
Paul Martens € 50.000 GER Jack Wolfskin 72 TT
Teodoro Costagli €50.000 ITA Wiggle 73 MO
Total €3.493.000

Edited by Kami on 22-04-2011 17:39
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SotD
Taaramae isn't Italian Pfft
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