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Sprint problems with patch 1.0.4.1
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Posted on 23-11-2024 04:42
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| xeroxi |
Posted on 18-01-2011 20:39
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Im constantly having problem winning races on hard difficulty when it comes down to sprints, even tho i have a decent amount of energy left and my opponents are far worse in both sprinting and acceleration.
Several times ive had people like Cancellara and Flecha fly past Hushovd in the last kilometer of Paris-Robaix, double his speed with about 1km to go. I had launched my sprint at about 1.9-1.8km
This is also a huge problem in the hilly classics
I tought this only was a problem with patch *.4.2?
Any fix to this? kinda makes the game unplayable if its impossible to win a race :s
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| roturn |
Posted on 18-01-2011 21:17
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Rightclick your PCM.exe and then details id you really have installed 1.0.4.1
Because this is kind of weird.
Maybe your Hushovd is not in form? What is his fitness level?
I don`t have any problems to win sprints.
When a 75 rider is in a great shape then you can beat Cavendish, but if Cavendish also is in a great shape then he is close to unbeatably by most sprinters. |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 18-01-2011 21:18
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Welcome to the forum.
No rider can win when sprinting for 2 km. If this is really what you do, then watch the tutorials on youtube or read the tips on the forum. |
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| Martin_TB |
Posted on 18-01-2011 22:34
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What Lachi said!
I learnt that to my cost.
Do you have a lead out train?
I 'cheat' by pausing to set my train up as I can't do it at speed. 
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| xeroxi |
Posted on 18-01-2011 23:22
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I'll have a check on some youtubes :-)
Kinda hard to have lead-out trains in the cobble and hilly classics tho  when i sprint i dont seem to accelerate at all and everyone except a few riders who take off, stay at exacly the same pace regardless of stats.
Says version 1.0.4.1 when i rightclick |
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| Martin_TB |
Posted on 18-01-2011 23:35
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Further down this page of the forum is a post I created called 'Sprint Train: How do you create one'. Alakon linked a nice youtube video, which I embedded in the thread if you want to take a look. |
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| xeroxi |
Posted on 18-01-2011 23:39
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Thanks mate, i'll have a look at it 
If anyone got tips on a howto on the hilly classics it would also be greatly appriciated! |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 18-01-2011 23:53
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Sprinting needs energy - the one with most energy does better. So Cancellara can outsprint Hushvod if he has full bars while Hushvod is already pretty tired, which could be the case in cobble classics.
Same thing for hilly and mountain terrain, and in those 2 usually gaps open in the sprint. It's kinda like an attack.
Finally, in a flat sprint, try to not make your sprinter face the wind for more than 1~1.5 kms. Hope this helps a bit =)
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| Lachi |
Posted on 19-01-2011 10:02
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To be more precise:
Make sure that your rider is not riding in the wind until the last moment.
If it is a mass sprint, then look at the vids and tipps in this forum.
If it is not a mass sprint, then make him take the wheel of one of the better sprinters at about 11 km to the finish. Now you only have to wait for the sprint.
Be prepared to make him switch to another rider if neccessary, but only make him sprint in the very last moment.
It depends on the speed of the rider he is following and the energy he has left. Sometimes it is better to only follow the best rider and get second place than going into the wind and been oversprinted by 3 riders.
If you make your rider sprint and he cannot accelerate enough to overtake, you can make him take the wheel again to secure second place. |
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| xeroxi |
Posted on 22-01-2011 17:21
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Problem is i have both yellow and red bars near full, specially in hilly stages where i will take the wheel of gilbert/vino/cunego/schleck etc, depending on their position and who i'm playing with 3km to go.
They launch their sprint full out at about 1.3-4km to go, i have the wheel of the guy in the lead, my red bar is fine - i set to aggressive and sprint but i cant accelerate past him, sometimes i even fall behind and have to take his wheel again. How can my opponents launch a full out sprint and stay in the lead for 1.3km? Shouldnt i have some protection by having his wheel?
I've tried messing about with the effort bar, doesnt seem to matter if i have it set to 99 or 50 when i launch my sprint.
I did however just have a successful attempt with cunego in fleche wallonne where i fell a little behind before the sprint, was probably #15 when the sprint set off. Got the wheel of Vino in front of me who was the one accellerating fastest and launched my sprint at about 0.7km flying past everyone.
So am i staying too far ahead in the peleton when i loose, or is it random? After all i usually have the wheel of the guy who wins or comes in 2nd and my bars are always fine
Sorry for the complicated explaining :-) |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 22-01-2011 18:50
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You cannot outsprint every rider. If the yellow and red bar of your rider is full, then the bars of your opponents will be full as well. (Unless you play on easy and have the best rider in the group).
BTW: For the sprints, mainly the sprint bar and sprint stats matter. You could also try and use the 'power gel' (if you did not used it before) |
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| xeroxi |
Posted on 22-01-2011 22:30
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I understand i cant win every race, which obviously wouldnt be any fun either
I just found it very wierd that in ~50 tries i won like 4 times, and it seemed bugged that Evans could lead out Gilbert (who has better acc and sprint stats) for 700-800m and still keep the same pace trough the entire sprint, while i would loose speed when i went from following his wheel to sprinting
I actually didnt even know there was a power gel, so i guess i deserve it! haha :-) Tried it now and popped the gel before the sprint, and things went far better (altho i havent tried it again). Might have had something to do with me having a +2 day too, which doesnt happend very often either.
BTW, does the effort bar have any say in my sprint performance?
Thank you very much for you patience with my newbie ass, you've been great! |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 23-01-2011 00:23
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I don't know what the effort bar is, but as I said, the most important bar is the sprint bar. But the sprint bar is somehow related to the "normal" bars, because if your rider has empty bars, then the sprint bar will also be empty.
About the gel, you have to click on it in advance because it takes a while to work. (flashing) |
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| xeroxi |
Posted on 23-01-2011 00:39
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By that i mean the adjustable bar on the lower left side of your screen on each player, going from 0-99% adjusting relay/dot speed.
Clicked the gel with 3km to go before i took a wheel in L-B-L, and it seemed to work like a charm thanks! |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 23-01-2011 00:48
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I always make them sprint at 99, but i really do not know if it does matter. |
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| cuntador |
Posted on 23-01-2011 13:28
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Have the same problem. Specially when guarding my sprinter. Played e3 now and Hushovd was guarding Haussler at the finish. Eisel and Cancellara was on Hausslers wheel and when hushovds bars where empty I launched the sprint from the wheel with Haussler who had half\ half+. They just keep sprinting in Hushovds back wheel and can not pass him. When i just "dottet" Hushovd on 25% the three riders was sprinting on 32km\h behind him! They would not pass! Totally ridiculous, and it happens for most of the times. Had NO problemos with sprint\ sprint trains on the previous patches, so what the hell has happened?
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| roturn |
Posted on 23-01-2011 13:38
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Never experienced this problem with patch 1.0.4.1. Just with 1.0.4.2.
Try to install the patch 1.0.4.1 again. |
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| cuntador |
Posted on 23-01-2011 13:43
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Ok, so I don't need to start a new career? Just install the 1.0.4.1 and it will overwrite 1.0.4.2?
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| roturn |
Posted on 23-01-2011 14:07
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If you install 1.0.4.1 from 1.0.0.0 over your game then you don`t need to restart a career.
You just have to save the local.cdb because the patch might overwrite it. Otherwise there might be pink squares in the scouting and equipment zone. |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 23-01-2011 14:11
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That is what he said. Just make sure that you install the correct patch and that you don't allow the game to install the newer patch 1.0.4.2 afterwards.
Also you should backup the local.cdb which can be found in My documents. (If you find pink pictures in the game, you have to revert to the backed up local.cdb) |
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