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| Alakagom |
Posted on 04-01-2011 18:09
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Its Tour de France in a carrer mode and playing as Rabobank, Gesink in middle of mountain has no energy left, how is so. is that normal ?
He is at 96 fitness, no crashes or injuries. I am playing on hard. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 04-01-2011 18:17
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Try to climb mountains with the "dot" and changing the percentage isntead of the standard "hold position" button.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 04-01-2011 18:18
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So e.g. in middle ride on 65-70, and then at top up to 80. That sort of thing ? |
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| sam1196 |
Posted on 04-01-2011 19:31
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gesink isn't the best climber so it's normal that he loses energy on a climb when an other rider makes a high pace. It's not because a rider that has a lower climbing stat makes the pace that a better climber won't lose energy. What difficulty level are you playing on?
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| roturn |
Posted on 04-01-2011 19:49
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Alakagon wrote:
So e.g. in middle ride on 65-70, and then at top up to 80. That sort of thing ?
Yes. You can always see if it`s enough on his position in the field. If he`s going back make it higher ...
On the final climb I prefer 87%. This is the last value without a totally red pulse and works quite fine for me. But also depends on the stats and fitness of course. Also it might be enough to go 75% on the final climb, always different. |
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| baia |
Posted on 04-01-2011 19:53
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I rarely use dot..think must start with it..
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 04-01-2011 20:01
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Even without dot Gesink shouldn't be out of energy so early in the climbing. Also he's still in a big group, so that shouldn't be happening.
And you know, I don't like this 'dot micromanage' thing, because for example you can't take part in relays in a favorite group, if there was the so wanted button "mountain train" to set the pace it wouldn't be so much useful as the dot micromanage.. it makes it less real.
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| roturn |
Posted on 04-01-2011 20:12
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But unfortunately it`s the only real way.
If you go with him on hold position or lead with Contador, Basso, Sanchez doing pace then you will die with Gesink. Going on the dot is much better for him then. Just go 65% on most climbs, 75 on second last and 87 on final climb if you don`T want to do too many changes, but it`s not 100% effective then of course but still better than without dot I suppose. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 04-01-2011 20:28
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I've done couple of stages on dot and it works wonders 
On this stage now using dot and 60 Gesink had full both bars, and then at final 2 km 85 and Gesnik rode away from everybody. There is lot of micromanagment, but that is the fun of the game. Thanks for advice Roturn So far on hard, and stage 17, I've 5min advantage to Sanchez and 5 and half to Schleck.
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| baia |
Posted on 04-01-2011 20:51
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Alakagon wrote:
I've done couple of stages on dot and it works wonders
On this stage now using dot and 60 Gesink had full both bars, and then at final 2 km 85 and Gesnik rode away from everybody. There is lot of micromanagment, but that is the fun of the game. Thanks for advice Roturn So far on hard, and stage 17, I've 5min advantage to Sanchez and 5 and half to Schleck.
That´s why i agree with lluuiiggii...
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 04-01-2011 21:12
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Well Gesink is third best climber on tour and one stage was bugged and I don't know how but I gained 4 min on everybody  If not that it would be very close between me, Schelck and Sanchez. Without the dot micormanagment it wouldnt be at all possible. |
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| owks |
Posted on 05-01-2011 16:37
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Alakagon wrote:
Well Gesink is third best climber on tour and one stage was bugged and I don't know how but I gained 4 min on everybody If not that it would be very close between me, Schelck and Sanchez. Without the dot micormanagment it wouldnt be at all possible.
Sometimes it happens when the last hard climb is far from the end.
Is that what happened ?
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 05-01-2011 16:48
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Similar, I was riding in peleton and on last climb somehow Gesink was in front of peleton with advaatage of 4 min, that was very strange, it happend when I used 8x spedd for few moments, anyway withour that 3rd would be great, Sanchze and Schleck better timetrialits than me, hopefully I will defend it 
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 05-01-2011 16:54
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It is an annoying bug in some stages. Using dot you just leave everybody behind and even if your rider is exhausted by the top of the climb, going downhill nobody is able to catch you. It's better to try to avoid using dot to win unfairly, but sometimes it's just unavoidable because you can't win by a normal attack either if the slope is too high (>6% or something), as your rider depletes his bars and doesn't gain any advantage over the peloton.
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
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| roturn |
Posted on 05-01-2011 16:55
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Sometimes this will happen on narrow roads. Best example is the one Siro stage with the last mountain 15km on very narrow roads. Then descent and finish. |
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| United Forever |
Posted on 05-01-2011 20:21
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Ildabaoth wrote:
It's better to try to avoid using dot to win unfairly, but sometimes it's just unavoidable because you can't win by a normal attack either if the slope is too high (>6% or something), as your rider depletes his bars and doesn't gain any advantage over the peloton.
you could also raise it to extreme and see if that gives more realistic results  |
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 05-01-2011 20:56
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United Forever wrote:
Ildabaoth wrote:
It's better to try to avoid using dot to win unfairly, but sometimes it's just unavoidable because you can't win by a normal attack either if the slope is too high (>6% or something), as your rider depletes his bars and doesn't gain any advantage over the peloton.
you could also raise it to extreme and see if that gives more realistic results
Thanks. I'd, but I'm too lazy to do the whole micromanagement thing when you play in extreme. I rather play in hard because I hate to put the game in 1x all the time to change effort percentages and stuff like that (and because I suck at PCM).
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
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