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Posted on 29-09-2024 12:14
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 31-03-2015 14:46
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Gent-Wevelgem isn't that much of a cobbled race too be honest, so I wouldn't base the COB stat on results there too much. Omloop Het Volk or Dwars Door Vlaanderen for example are better races to base the COB stat on in my opinion.
Flat and stamina could be counted there though, but like Matt says, don't base anything on one race.
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 03-04-2015 11:23
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matt17br wrote:
@fidjim, yes but we're discussing PCM.Daily db stats, not Jesgd's 
Also, I would advise you to take a look at Tank's thread. That matrix is based on FINAL RESULTS and can't be completely perfect and as good as a person watching a cycling race.
@Flat stat "weight" in cobbled races discussion: taking a look at sta_type_rider, that until PCM 12 affected the average of a certain type of rider, turns out that the flat stat affects the average for the 15%, while cobbles for 70% and endurance for 15%. Given that it shouldn't have changed that much since then, we should base the updates on that 
Which means that for somebody like Thomas and to do him justice on the cobbles (depending on Tour of Flanders of course) needs to be pretty high on cobbles. |
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| Kiserlovski01 |
Posted on 04-04-2015 16:52
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What about the stats of Miguel Ángel López (AST, winner of Tour de l'Avenir) and the two youngsters from Kazakhstan Astana signed? |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 04-04-2015 17:03
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Kiserlovski01 wrote:
What about the stats of Miguel Ángel López (AST, winner of Tour de l'Avenir) and the two youngsters from Kazakhstan Astana signed?
Doped?
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| Kiserlovski01 |
Posted on 04-04-2015 17:13
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Ollfardh wrote:
Kiserlovski01 wrote:
What about the stats of Miguel Ángel López (AST, winner of Tour de l'Avenir) and the two youngsters from Kazakhstan Astana signed?
Doped?
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| Morganho |
Posted on 07-04-2015 21:34
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Hey guys, what's up?
So Benoot has to be bumped, I'm thinking:
FL: 74
HI: 73
CO: 76
STA: 74
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 07-04-2015 21:39
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Definitely close to what I had in mind.
Bit more FL maybe.
Will have to await Roubaix though, for more accuracy
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| Morganho |
Posted on 07-04-2015 21:44
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Jesleyh wrote:
Definitely close to what I had in mind.
Bit more FL maybe.
Will have to await Roubaix though, for more accuracy
I'm more inclined to give him more of a Van Avermaet skillset (higher hills, lower flat compared to other cobble specialists). But yeah let's see how he does in Roubaix.
Also, Fabio Felline has been hot lately. I'm thinking:
MO 71
HI 74/75
TT 68
PR 74
SP 74
ACC 75
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 07-04-2015 21:44
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Hill 73 sounds a bit too much though, I haven't seen him do amazing stuff on the hills yet. Stamina could be a bit higher in my opinion. He seems to find new strenght when the finishline approaches.
EDIT: this is about Benoot
Edited by Ollfardh on 07-04-2015 21:47
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Morganho |
Posted on 07-04-2015 21:49
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Ollfardh wrote:
Hill 73 sounds a bit too much though, I haven't seen him do amazing stuff on the hills yet. Stamina could be a bit higher in my opinion. He seems to find new strenght when the finishline approaches.
It's just that he had some good results in hillier classics before turning pro, my feeling is that he's more of a Van Avermaet kinda rider than a Boonen/Vanmarcke rider. I might be wrong though, he is pretty tall so he probably won't have the explosiveness to be a great hills rider as a pro. |
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| AndreasEng |
Posted on 09-04-2015 18:53
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Manuele Boaro is in my oppinion very underrated in his climbing ability. He won the hardest stage in Tour of Denmark last year, and today he won a tough stage in Circuit de la Sarthe in front of Rolland, Fedrigo and Bakelants. |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 09-04-2015 19:09
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AndreasEng wrote:
Manuele Boaro is in my oppinion very underrated in his climbing ability. He won the hardest stage in Tour of Denmark last year, and today he won a tough stage in Circuit de la Sarthe in front of Rolland, Fedrigo and Bakelants.
Yup, he deserves more than his stat I guess
Edit: thought we were talking about felline, still a slightly valid point I am ashamed of myself, guess I actually need some glasses :/
Edited by matt17br on 09-04-2015 20:16
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 09-04-2015 19:41
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Both Denmark and Sarthe are hardly climbs, it was all hilly.
He deserves a small boost to the 62, but these two results shouldn't have any affect on his MO, he has few other though that mean he should be higher than 62.
Edited by Alakagom on 09-04-2015 19:42
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 09-04-2015 19:43
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Didn't Boaro enter the top 10 in Crit.Int. mountain stage? |
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| TankNL |
Posted on 09-04-2015 19:55
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matt17br wrote:
AndreasEng wrote:
Manuele Boaro is in my oppinion very underrated in his climbing ability. He won the hardest stage in Tour of Denmark last year, and today he won a tough stage in Circuit de la Sarthe in front of Rolland, Fedrigo and Bakelants.
Yup, he definitely deserves more than 62 I guess
looked him up in my stats. I have him on;
| CyclistName | FLA | MOU | HIL | TT | PRO | COB | SPR | ACC | DWN | FTR | STA | RES | REC | POP | | BOARO | 66 | 63 | 65 | 70 | 78 | 58 | 61 | 61 | 73 | 72 | 62 | 67 | 66 | 30 |
Edited by TankNL on 09-04-2015 19:56
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| TankNL |
Posted on 09-04-2015 19:56
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Morganho wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Definitely close to what I had in mind.
Bit more FL maybe.
Will have to await Roubaix though, for more accuracy
I'm more inclined to give him more of a Van Avermaet skillset (higher hills, lower flat compared to other cobble specialists). But yeah let's see how he does in Roubaix.
Also, Fabio Felline has been hot lately. I'm thinking:
MO 71
HI 74/75
TT 68
PR 74
SP 74
ACC 75
What do you reckon?
looked him up in my stats. I have him on;
| CyclistName | FLA | MOU | HIL | TT | PRO | COB | SPR | ACC | DWN | FTR | STA | RES | REC | POP | | BENOOT | 74 | 58 | 62 | 56 | 50 | 76 | 68 | 70 | 74 | 71 | 70 | 74 | 59 | 24 |
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| Squire |
Posted on 09-04-2015 20:10
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Don't really know which races you have collected for your calculated DB, TankNL, but the race database is certainly lacking a lot of hilly stuff where Benoot has done very well 
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| TankNL |
Posted on 09-04-2015 21:01
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Squire wrote:
Don't really know which races you have collected for your calculated DB, TankNL, but the race database is certainly lacking a lot of hilly stuff where Benoot has done very well
https://pcmdaily.c...st_1048238 |
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| clamel |
Posted on 09-04-2015 23:43
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What about the impossible Viking from Norway.
He is on fire for sure, but he might have some increase in other ratings than just sprints. Nothing or no-one looks to be able to handle him at the moment.
He can't stop winning, so the next monument will be a thrill to watch.
Surely he can't take that too , or ???
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| kissaha |
Posted on 10-04-2015 00:16
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Regarding Kristoff I would just boost his flat, cob and stamina with 1 or 2 points. That should make him good enough.
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