Armstrong stops fighting doping charges - USADA wants him banned and stripped for titles
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Aquarius |
Posted on 12-01-2013 14:00
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They're just guessing what kind of non journalism is going to happen at O.W. show with Lance. Satire, as cactus-jack said. |
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Posted on 12-01-2013 14:03
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I find the proposed 10 questions very good. I mean, someone should ask those questions, eventually. I guess Lance should be interviewed by a not spineless journo for that, and I find it unlikely to happen.
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Posted on 12-01-2013 14:25
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Before we all get ahead of ourselves:
Remember folks, that Oprah Winfrey is not a sports journalist.
I've got a feeling she'll ask a few softy questions like 'What has your life been like since'
Then some open ended questions where he can admit should he want to.
Oprah has a history of getting good interviews, but don't ever expect something hard hitting, it won't be.
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Posted on 12-01-2013 15:26
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CountArach wrote:
Reading David Walsh's new book (which is magnificent and should be read by everyone who wants a close look at the way Armstrong was able to control the media and anyone who would come forward against him) that is essentially the conclusion I reached. It seems that this is how the team initially justified it to themselves and all he has to do is say that and his disciples will ensure he has some sort of legacy.
I started reading it not too long ago. I think its a great book, it really shows the real Armstrong. I never really followed the whole Lance-doping thing until about a year or two ago, so it is also pretty informative and very insightful. I never realised he was such a manipulative bastard, I mean I know he was manipulative, but nowhere bear as bad as I now know.
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Posted on 12-01-2013 15:31
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Oprah: Did you use drug?
Lance: Yes
And the rest of the interview is not longer necessary
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Posted on 12-01-2013 16:15
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ShortsNL wrote:
I don't know the guardian very well, is it a tabloid paper? cause it seems so.
The questions in both linked articles are terribly loaded and truly unworthy for sports journalism. The first article from CountArach I can see as possibly satirical but even in the second article from cactus-jack, that states which questions should be asked, is just horribly horribly loaded. Nearly every question is completely biased and undermines the entire point of the interview.
It would have been much more valuable if the two journalists who wrote this did some actual research to see if they could actually find the real questions in the interview, and then seriously predict the answers Lance is gonna give based on proper analysis of all the history by a senior sports journalist.
Honestly, I can see that it's a blog and all, but even as a journalist writing a blog you can at least uphold your profession and do a proper analysis instead of just trying to be a clown.
It's a former broadsheet (now a Berliner), and one of the most reputable newspapers in the UK.
The first article is obviously in jest, only a moron would not be able to see that.
The second article is by William Fotheringham, one of the most reputable UK cycling and sports journalists
Edited by Crommy on 12-01-2013 16:17
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Aquarius |
Posted on 12-01-2013 16:27
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Wait, do you mean you actually have cycling journalists in the UK ? |
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Posted on 12-01-2013 16:45
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Aquarius wrote:
Wait, do you mean you actually have cycling journalists in the UK ?
Come Tour time, he writes every day for half a dozen different papers
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Posted on 12-01-2013 17:54
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I understood it's satire. That's my problem with it, they shouldn't spend their time on useless satire. They're journalists ffs. Not comedians. Like Crommy confirmed, the second article especially shows detailed knowledge about the Armstrong case. If they are going to spend their working hours talking about cycling, they should at least put their talents and professional training to good use and write something meaningful. This just makes them look unprofessional. |
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Posted on 12-01-2013 18:14
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ShortsNL wrote:
I understood it's satire. That's my problem with it, they shouldn't spend their time on useless satire. They're journalists ffs. Not comedians. Like Crommy confirmed, the second article especially shows detailed knowledge about the Armstrong case. If they are going to spend their working hours talking about cycling, they should at least put their talents and professional training to good use and write something meaningful. This just makes them look unprofessional.
Journalists are as much there to entertain as to inform. It's not like the average person is only looking for the brief facts of an article. Not everything has to be loaded with meaning either, enjoyable things aren't always either. |
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CountArach |
Posted on 12-01-2013 22:31
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ShortsNL wrote:
I understood it's satire. That's my problem with it, they shouldn't spend their time on useless satire. They're journalists ffs. Not comedians. Like Crommy confirmed, the second article especially shows detailed knowledge about the Armstrong case. If they are going to spend their working hours talking about cycling, they should at least put their talents and professional training to good use and write something meaningful. This just makes them look unprofessional.
Satire is a perfectly legitimate way of making a point. Colbert is a satirist and often offers some of the most incisive commentary through that.
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Posted on 14-01-2013 17:25
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Just some snippets of comments in some of the Norwegian newspapers regarding Armstrongs appology;
"It takes a real man to owe up what he did! He has my support!"
"Only a true champion like Armstrong could come out of this with his head held high"
"Not many people would appologise, but Armstrong did!"
"Everybody has made mistakes once or twice during their lifes, it's only human."
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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Posted on 14-01-2013 18:52
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I'm actually considering watching the livesteam, but it's probably going to be a big disappointement
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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valverde321 |
Posted on 15-01-2013 05:49
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Well he's apparently admitted, so thats it then.
https://www.cnn.co...index.html
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Posted on 15-01-2013 05:55
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That was unexpected, but finally. Hopefully people can open their eyes and believe when they see evidence after this. |
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Posted on 15-01-2013 06:09
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So, turns out Deadpool wasn't that wrong. He just missed date, person and channel
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CrueTrue wrote:
A confession from Lance? Not going to happen. Maybe when he's 90 or something, but I doubt it.
Didn't see this earlier. I agree that Lance would never, ever, admit what he's done if he was making the decision on his own...but there is a very good reason why he pays Bart Knaggs and Ogilvy a shit-ton of money to advise him. They're going to push him towards doing at least a partial admittance. I was adamant that this was going to happen, and that was before today's fire-bombing of Lance's legacy. I'm dead certain it'll happen in the next few weeks here.
Hell, I've already called it. Jeremy Schapp, Sunday Conversation on SportsCenter. Won't be this weekend, but I'd said before Thanksgiving (the 22nd of November) at the latest.
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Posted on 15-01-2013 07:56
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Be interested to see what he actually said but I should imagine there will be some legal trouble ahead
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Posted on 15-01-2013 10:40
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Posted on 15-01-2013 11:08
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I won't believe those "news" until I see the interview. |
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Gulvplanke |
Posted on 15-01-2013 18:41
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cactus-jack wrote:
Just some snippets of comments in some of the Norwegian newspapers regarding Armstrongs appology;
"It takes a real man to owe up what he did! He has my support!"
"Only a true champion like Armstrong could come out of this with his head held high"
"Not many people would appologise, but Armstrong did!"
"Everybody has made mistakes once or twice during their lifes, it's only human."
By the standards of comment sections in newspapers theese comments are actully pretty good. At least no one claimed it was a grand islamo-socialist conspiracy lead by Stoltenberg.
How hard can it be?
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