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Garmin - End of 3rd Season - Continue in PCM11
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| roturn |
Posted on 17-01-2011 22:18
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Well, I decided to change this transfer tomorrow.
Of course I will backup the savegame.
Thanks for your opinions. |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 17-01-2011 23:40
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Spartacus 
Great 4th for Sanchez 
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 18-01-2011 06:38
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I agree, 4th with Sánchez is very good.
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| roturn |
Posted on 18-01-2011 13:59
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Thanks. Was more than expected.
The Grand Prix Ouest France is a very hilly one-day classic belonging to the UCI ProTour. It was first held in 1931 and named Grand Prix de Plouay Ouest-France until 1989. The route is on a ~20km long circuit with 11 laps. The riders have to pass three climbs on every lap. In Kerihuel (2,3 km, 8 %), Lezot (1,3 km; 7 %) and in Ty Marrec (1,0 km; 7 %).
Several riders share the record of two wins. Philippe Bono, Armand Audaire, Emile Guérinel, Jean Gainche, Fernand Picot, Jean Jourden, Jacques Bossis und Gilbert Duclos-Lassalle.
Result in 2010
| 1 | Philippe Gilbert | Omega Pharma-Lotto | | 2 | Damiano Cunego | Lampre-Farnese Vini | | 3 | Fränk Schleck | Team Saxobank | | 4 | Enrico Gasparotto | Astana | | 5 | Joaquím Rodríguez Oliver | Team Katusha | | 6 | Ryder Hesjedal | Garmin - Transitions | | 7 | Alexander Kolobnev | Team Katusha | | 8 | Vincenzo Nibali | Liquigas - Doimo | | 9 | Simon Gerrans | Sky Professional Cycling Team | | 10 | Fabian Wegmann | Team Milram |
Garmin squad in 2011
Also our squad is very strong here, we don`t really hope for a good result. Nobody is in a good shape as this race is exactly in the race break of most of our riders. Kessiakoff will be the most competive rider and will lead our squad next to Hesjedal.
Full startlist
Spoiler Liquigas
1. P.Gilbert
2. V.Agnoli
3. M.Bodnar
4. M.Kump
5. M.Paterski
6. F.Sabatini
7. P.Sagan
8. F.Willems
Leopard
11. F.Schleck
12. J.Bellis
13. D.Klemme
14. K.Klostergård
15. S.O'Grady
16. A.Schleck
17. C.Sørensen
18. J.Voigt
Lampre
21. D.Cunego
22. I.Basso
23. L.Bernucci
24. V.Buts
25. E.Capecchi
26. F.Gavazzi
27. F.Ginanni
28. A.Malori
Katusha
31. A.Kolobnev
32. L.Bodrogi
33. K.Kirchen
34. A.Pliuschin
35. F.Pozzato
36. M.Quinziato
37. J.Rodríguez Oliver
38. N.Trusov
Astana
41. A.Contador
42. A.Bazayev
43. A.Dyachenko
44. E.Gasparotto
45. A.Grivko
46. M.Selvaggi
47. R.Shishelov
48. A.Vinokourov
Quick
51. S.Chavanel
52. T.Boonen
53. D.Cataldo
54. A.Kunitski
55. J.Pineau
56. F.Reda
57. M.Tosatto
58. M.Van Staeyen
FDJ
61. B.Vaugrenard
62. O.Bonnaire
63. S.Casar
64. R.Di Grégorio
65. C.Le Mével
66. F.Mourey
67. Y.Offredo
68. J.Veikkanen
Garmin
71. R.Hesjedal
72. F.Kessiakoff
73. M.Kreder
74. M.Maaskant
75. D.Pate
76. T.Peterson
77. R.Van Der Velde
78. J.Vansummeren
Sky
81. T.Lövkvist
82. S.Calzati
83. K.Carlström
84. R.Downing
85. A.Dowsett
86. P.Kennaugh
87. N.Portal
88. C.Sutton
Rabobank
91. P.Martens
92. S.Clement
93. D.Kozontchuk
94. J.Posthuma
95. K.Reus
96. M.Tjallingii
97. J.Van Emden
98. L.Westra
Euskaltel
101. S.Sánchez
102. J.Castroviejo
103. S.De Lis
104. M.Drouilly
105. A.Ovechkin
106. R.Pérez Moreno
107. D.Sesma
108. G.Verdugo
RadioShack
111. S.Spilak
112. W.Grégoire
113. D.Impey
114. L.Leipheimer
115. G.Lequatre
116. T.Machado
117. D.Muravyev
118. T.Vaitkus
Movistar
121. J.Cobo Acebo
122. M.Claude
123. M.Drujon
124. R.Fario Da Costa
125. V.Kiryienka
126. P.Lastras
127. C.Moreau
128. L.Pasamontes
Cofidis
131. R.Taaramäe
132. G.Blot
133. J.Demaret
134. J.Fouchard
135. C.Kern
136. A.Moinard
137. D.Monier
138. N.Sijmens
Europcar
141. T.Voeckler
142. F.Bichot
143. A.Charteau
144. P.Fédrigo
145. D.Le Lay
146. C.Lhotellerie
147. P.Quemeneur
148. Y.Trofimov
HTC
151. T.Martin
152. B.Eisel
153. P.Gretsch
154. R.Guldhammer
155. A.Howard
156. M.Renshaw
157. V.Reynès Mimo
158. T.Van Garderen
NetApp
161. L.Gerdemann
162. M.Eichler
163. T.Fothen
164. D.Roels
165. M.Ruß
166. B.Schröder
167. R.Sentjens
168. N.Terpstra
Ag2r
171. R.Nocentini
172. J.Bérard
173. D.Champion
174. H.Dupont
175. A.Efimkin
176. J.Gadret
177. C.Riblon
178. L.Turpin
Saxobank
181. X.Florencio
182. D.Appollonio
183. L.Beuret
184. J.Hunt
185. E.King
186. D.Lloyd
187. D.Rollin
188. M.Wyss
Omega
191. M.Lloyd
192. A.Blythe
193. M.Delage
194. L.Hoste
195. J.Ljungblad
196. D.Moreno
197. J.Péraud
198. S.Vanmarcke
Androni
201. R.Bertogliati
202. A.Bertolini
203. L.Maté
204. A.Piechele
205. F.Piemontesi
206. J.Rodríguez
207. F.Taborre
208. C.Wurf
Saur
211. J.Coppel
212. C.Bessy
213. F.Jeandesboz
214. G.Levarlet
215. R.Mathéou
216. A.Raynaud
217. J.Simon
218. Y.Talabardon
Favourites
***** Gilbert
**** Cunego, F.Schleck
*** A.Schleck, Sagan, Kolobnev
** Ginnani, Gasparrotto, Contador, Vaugrenard
* Rodriguez, Sanchez, Chavanel, Lövkvist, Martens
Of course Gilbert is the big favourite in most hilly classics. But with Frank Schleck and Cunego his biggest contenders in 2010 are also participating. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 18-01-2011 14:19
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Grand Prix Ouest-France
Plouay - Plouay
As written in the race information there are 11 laps a ~20km and 3 climbs.
For us it is most important to avoid crashes and maybe surprise with Kessiakoff or Hesjedal.
Several riders attacked today but none of them is a really good puncheur. Unfortunately we missed to get a guy into this group.
After Kessiakoff told us that he has good legs today, we hoped that many favourites already had a long season. So we took the pace to control the gap a bit better.
After the first half the advance became much smaller again. Kessiakoff is definitely feeling much better than Hesjedal, who is relaxing before his final peak with Lombardia.
With just 10km to go the group was caught and Gilbert attacks. Was this the decision? He looks really strong here.
In the background you can see Cunego and Schleck following. Also Kessiakoff is trying to keep contact to them.
As expected Gilbert wins the 2nd time in a row and is part of the records now. Like last year Cunego decides the sprint of the first chasing group ahead of Schleck. Kessiakoff on 12 and Hesjedal on 24 reached the finish in the next bigger group.
Not the best result, but the maximum we could expect.
Result
| 1 | Philippe Gilbert | Liquigas - Cannondale | 6h34'21 | | 2 | Damiano Cunego | Lampre-ISD | + 54 | | 3 | Fränk Schleck | Team Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 4 | Francesco Ginanni | Lampre-ISD | + 1'25 | | 5 | Enrico Gasparotto | Astana | s.t. | | 6 | Thomas Lövkvist | Sky Professional Cycling Team | s.t. | | 7 | Alexander Kolobnev | Team Katusha | s.t. | | 8 | Jérôme Pineau | Quick Step - Innergetic | s.t. | | 9 | Paul Martens | Rabobank | s.t. | | 10 | Sylvain Chavanel | Quick Step - Innergetic | s.t. |
Spoiler | 11 | Alberto Contador | Astana | s.t. | | 12 | Fredrik Kessiakoff | Garmin - Cervelo | s.t. | | 13 | Rinaldo Nocentini | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 14 | Filippo Pozzato | Team Katusha | s.t. | | 15 | Benoît Vaugrenard | FDJ | s.t. | | 16 | Tom Boonen | Quick Step - Innergetic | s.t. | | 17 | Ivan Basso | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 18 | Kim Kirchen | Team Katusha | s.t. | | 19 | Alexander Efimkin | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 20 | Samuel Sánchez | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | | 21 | Lieuwe Westra | Rabobank | s.t. | | 22 | Alexander Vinokourov | Astana | s.t. | | 23 | Simon Spilak | Team RadioShack | s.t. | | 24 | Ryder Hesjedal | Garmin - Cervelo | s.t. | | 25 | Dario Cataldo | Quick Step - Innergetic | s.t. | | 26 | Joaquím Rodríguez Oliver | Team Katusha | s.t. | | 27 | Rein Taaramäe | Cofidis, le Credit en Ligne | s.t. | | 28 | Jussi Veikkanen | FDJ | s.t. | | 29 | Christophe Kern | Cofidis, le Credit en Ligne | s.t. | | 30 | Andy Schleck | Team Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 31 | Jackson Rodríguez | Androni Giocattoli - Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni | s.t. | | 32 | Stef Clement | Rabobank | s.t. | | 33 | Thomas Voeckler | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 34 | John Gadret | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 35 | Yoann Offredo | FDJ | + 2'28 | | 36 | Tejay Van Garderen | Team HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 37 | Christophe Le Mével | FDJ | s.t. | | 38 | David Le Lay | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 39 | Vasil Kiryienka | Team Movistar | s.t. | | 40 | Sandy Casar | FDJ | + 2'38 | | 41 | Lorenzo Bernucci | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 42 | Linus Gerdemann | Team NetApp | + 3'16 | | 43 | Rubens Bertogliati | Androni Giocattoli - Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni | s.t. | | 44 | Yury Trofimov | Team Europcar | + 3'24 | | 45 | Amaël Moinard | Cofidis, le Credit en Ligne | s.t. | | 46 | Andrei Kunitski | Quick Step - Innergetic | s.t. | | 47 | Martijn Maaskant | Garmin - Cervelo | s.t. | | 48 | Johan Vansummeren | Garmin - Cervelo | + 3'32 | | 49 | Hubert Dupont | Ag2r La Mondiale | + 6'28 | | 50 | Peter Sagan | Liquigas - Cannondale | s.t. | | 51 | Nico Sijmens | Cofidis, le Credit en Ligne | + 6'36 | | 52 | Jens Voigt | Team Leopard Trek | + 6'44 | | 53 | Assan Bazayev | Astana | + 6'52 | | 54 | Dominic Klemme | Team Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 55 | Matthew Lloyd | Omega Pharma-Lotto | + 7'16 | | 56 | Jean-Christophe Péraud | Omega Pharma-Lotto | + 7'24 | | 57 | Joost Posthuma | Rabobank | + 7'32 | | 58 | Russell Downing | Sky Professional Cycling Team | s.t. | | 59 | Luis Ángel Maté | Androni Giocattoli - Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni | s.t. | | 60 | Fabio Taborre | Androni Giocattoli - Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni | + 7'48 | | 61 | Francesco Reda | Quick Step - Innergetic | + 7'56 | | 62 | Eros Capecchi | Lampre-ISD | + 8'04 | | 63 | Daryl Impey | Team RadioShack | + 9'48 | | 64 | Levi Leipheimer | Team RadioShack | s.t. | | 65 | Andriy Grivko | Astana | s.t. | | 66 | Rui Alberto Fario Da Costa | Team Movistar | s.t. | | 67 | Juan José Cobo Acebo | Team Movistar | s.t. | | 68 | Thomas Peterson | Garmin - Cervelo | + 9'56 | | 69 | Gorka Verdugo | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | | 70 | Christophe Moreau | Team Movistar | s.t. | | 71 | Pablo Lastras | Team Movistar | s.t. | | 72 | Christophe Riblon | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 73 | Julien Fouchard | Cofidis, le Credit en Ligne | + 10'12 | | 74 | Daniel Moreno | Omega Pharma-Lotto | s.t. | | 75 | Alexandr Pliuschin | Team Katusha | s.t. | | 76 | Mickaël Delage | Omega Pharma-Lotto | + 10'20 | | 77 | Francesco Gavazzi | Lampre-ISD | + 10'28 | | 78 | Frederik Willems | Liquigas - Cannondale | + 10'44 | | 79 | Peter Kennaugh | Sky Professional Cycling Team | + 11'40 | | 80 | Dominique Rollin | Team Saxobank - Sungard | s.t. | | 81 | Xavier Florencio | Team Saxobank - Sungard | s.t. | | 82 | Leif Hoste | Omega Pharma-Lotto | s.t. | | 83 | Tiago Machado | Team RadioShack | s.t. | | 84 | Anthony Charteau | Team Europcar | + 11'56 | | 85 | Vicente Reynès Mimo | Team HTC - Highroad | + 12'12 | | 86 | Jonathan Castroviejo | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | | 87 | Tony Martin | Team HTC - Highroad | + 12'28 | | 88 | Jérôme Coppel | Saur - Sojasun | s.t. | | 89 | Manuel Quinziato | Team Katusha | + 12'36 | | 90 | Freddy Bichot | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 91 | Jean-Eudes Demaret | Cofidis, le Credit en Ligne | + 12'52 | | 92 | Daniel Lloyd | Team Saxobank - Sungard | s.t. | | 93 | Sylvain Calzati | Sky Professional Cycling Team | s.t. | | 94 | Clément Lhotellerie | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 95 | Dimitri Champion | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 96 | Daniel Sesma | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | | 97 | Ricardo Van Der Velde | Garmin - Cervelo | s.t. | | 98 | Stuart O'Grady | Team Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 99 | Danny Pate | Garmin - Cervelo | + 13'00 | | 100 | Matthias Ruß | Team NetApp | s.t. | | 101 | Matteo Tosatto | Quick Step - Innergetic | s.t. | | 102 | Kasper Klostergård | Team Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 103 | Michel Kreder | Garmin - Cervelo | s.t. | | 104 | Geoffroy Lequatre | Team RadioShack | s.t. | | 105 | Francis Mourey | FDJ | + 13'16 | | 106 | Chris Anker Sørensen | Team Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 107 | Valerio Agnoli | Liquigas - Cannondale | + 13'32 | | 108 | Adriano Malori | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 109 | Marko Kump | Liquigas - Cannondale | + 13'48 | | 110 | Guillaume Levarlet | Saur - Sojasun | s.t. | | 111 | Roy Sentjens | Team NetApp | + 14'36 | | 112 | Bernhard Eisel | Team HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 113 | Adam Leigh Howard | Team HTC - Highroad | + 14'52 | | 114 | Laurent Beuret | Team Saxobank - Sungard | + 15'08 | | 115 | Rasmus Guldhammer | Team HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 116 | Damien Monier | Cofidis, le Credit en Ligne | s.t. | | 117 | Luis Pasamontes | Team Movistar | + 15'48 | | 118 | Maciej Bodnar | Liquigas - Cannondale | + 17'00 | | 119 | Tomas Vaitkus | Team RadioShack | + 17'56 | | 120 | Rémy Di Grégorio | FDJ | + 18'20 | | 121 | Marcel Wyss | Team Saxobank - Sungard | + 19'00 | | 122 | Olivier Bonnaire | FDJ | + 19'08 | | 123 | Ludovic Turpin | Ag2r La Mondiale | + 19'24 | | 124 | Michael Van Staeyen | Quick Step - Innergetic | + 19'40 | | 125 | Jonas Ljungblad | Omega Pharma-Lotto | + 20'04 | | 126 | Sep Vanmarcke | Omega Pharma-Lotto | s.t. | | 127 | Mathieu Claude | Team Movistar | s.t. | | 128 | Alessandro Bertolini | Androni Giocattoli - Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni | s.t. | | 129 | Dmitriy Muravyev | Team RadioShack | s.t. | | 130 | Cyril Bessy | Saur - Sojasun | + 20'20 | | 131 | Nicolas Portal | Sky Professional Cycling Team | s.t. | | 132 | Cameron Wurf | Androni Giocattoli - Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni | + 20'36 | | 133 | Jeremy Hunt | Team Saxobank - Sungard | + 20'44 | | 134 | Kai Reus | Rabobank | s.t. | | 135 | Julien Simon | Saur - Sojasun | s.t. | | 136 | Patrick Gretsch | Team HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 137 | Alexandr Dyachenko | Astana | + 21'00 | | 138 | Maciej Paterski | Liquigas - Cannondale | + 21'40 | | 139 | Vitaliy Buts | Lampre-ISD | + 22'44 | | 140 | Mirko Selvaggi | Astana | + 23'32 | | 141 | Jonathan Bellis | Team Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 142 | Christopher Sutton | Sky Professional Cycling Team | + 23'40 | | 143 | Fabio Sabatini | Liquigas - Cannondale | + 28'12 | | 144 | Rubén Pérez Moreno | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 29'08 | | 145 | Maarten Tjallingii | Rabobank | + 29'32 | | 146 | Mathieu Drujon | Team Movistar | s.t. | | 147 | Perrig Quemeneur | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 148 | Fabrice Piemontesi | Androni Giocattoli - Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni | s.t. | | 149 | Dominik Roels | Team NetApp | s.t. | | 150 | Yannick Talabardon | Saur - Sojasun | s.t. | | 151 | Jos Van Emden | Rabobank | + 29'48 | | 152 | Björn Schröder | Team NetApp | + 29'56 | | 153 | Niki Terpstra | Team NetApp | + 30'04 | | 154 | Markus Eichler | Team NetApp | + 30'20 | | 155 | Alex Dowsett | Sky Professional Cycling Team | s.t. | | 156 | Nikolay Trusov | Team Katusha | s.t. | | 157 | Sergio De Lis | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 31'56 | | 158 | Davide Appollonio | Team Saxobank - Sungard | + 32'28 | | 159 | Fabrice Jeandesboz | Saur - Sojasun | s.t. | | 160 | Thomas Fothen | Team NetApp | s.t. | | 161 | Mark Renshaw | Team HTC - Highroad | + 34'52 | | 162 | Guillaume Blot | Cofidis, le Credit en Ligne | s.t. | | 163 | Adam Blythe | Omega Pharma-Lotto | + 35'00 | | 164 | Artem Ovechkin | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | | 165 | Edward King | Team Saxobank - Sungard | + 35'08 | | 166 | Andrea Piechele | Androni Giocattoli - Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni | + 36'20 | | 167 | Julien Bérard | Ag2r La Mondiale | + 37'56 | | 168 | Kjell Carlström | Sky Professional Cycling Team | + 38'52 | | 169 | Dmitriy Kozontchuk | Rabobank | + 39'32 | | 170 | Rifat Shishelov | Astana | s.t. | | 171 | Romain Mathéou | Saur - Sojasun | + 46'44 | | 172 | László Bodrogi | Team Katusha | + 46'52 | | 173 | Mathieu Drouilly | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 47'40 | | 174 | William Grégoire | Team RadioShack | + 47'48 | | 175 | Pierrick Fédrigo | Team Europcar | + 49'00 |
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Posted on 18-01-2011 14:58
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The Vuelta Ciclista a España is the last Grand Tour of the cycling season. It was first held in 1935 and since 1955 annually.
As the other two GT`s the race will have some flat stages for the sprinters, some hilly stages for breakaways and some mountain stages for the favourites plus 2 time trials. As the route is normally very hilly, the real climber are often the biggest favourites and the timetrials aren`t that important than in the Tour de France.
The final stage is normally on a flat stage in Madrid.
With 3 wins each the Spaniard Roberto Heras and the Suisse Tony Rominger hold the record.
Most stage wins with 39 has Delio Rodríguez in the early years.
Result in 2010
| 1 | Alberto Contador | Astana | | 2 | Samuel Sánchez | Euskaltel - Euskadi | | 3 | David Arroyo | Caisse d'Epargne | | 4 | Ezequiel Mosquera | Xacobeo Galicia | | 5 | Ángel Gomez Marchante | Andalucia - CajaSur | | 6 | Igor Anton | Euskaltel - Euskadi | | 7 | Xavier Tondo | Cervelo Test Team | | 8 | Ryder Hesjedal | Garmin - Transitions | | 9 | Damiano Cunego | Lampre-Farnese Vini | | 10 | Richard Porte | Team Saxobank |
Contador won the Vuelta last year after his 2nd in the Tour. So he proved that you can be great in both GT`s. Surprisingly the wildcard teams Xacobeo and Andalucia participate without Mosquera and Marchante in 2011 although they performed great last year and they are the strongest climbers of their teams. Ryder Hesjedal on 8 was the first non Spaniard and celebrated a great GT after a disappointing Tour.
Garmin squad in 2011
Luis Leon Sanchez will be our leader. He is in a top shape and is focusing for a podium. He is still quite fresh and this could be his biggest advantage against a strong field. With Stetina and Kessiakoff he will have 2 good supporters in the mountains.
Rojas will be our rider for the flat stages. Luckily his crash wasn`t that bad but he still needs 2-3 stages to be in perfect form. Maaskant and Fischer will help him as good as possible on the final kilometers.
Maaskant of course is also a good rider for a breakaway as also Fischer and Pate.
Full startlist
Spoiler Astana
1. A.Contador
2. A.Bazayev
3. A.Davis
4. A.Dyachenko
5. M.Gourov
6. J.Hernández
7. C.Knees
8. D.Navarro
9. Ó.Pereiro Sio
Liquigas
11. R.Kreuziger
12. F.Chicchi
13. P.Gilbert
14. A.Kuschynski
15. F.Sabatini
16. P.Sagan
17. B.Vandborg
18. F.Willems
19. O.Zaugg
Leopard
21. F.Schleck
22. B.Cooke
23. L.Didier
24. J.Fuglsang
25. J.Haedo
26. D.Klemme
27. K.Klostergård
28. S.O'Grady
29. R.Porte
Sky
31. B.Wiggins
32. K.Arvesen
33. D.Cioni
34. C.Froome
35. G.Henderson
36. L.Nordhaug
37. M.Possoni
38. C.Sutton
39. I.Wilkinson
Euskaltel
41. S.Sánchez
42. J.Castroviejo
43. K.Fernández
44. M.García
45. B.Noval
46. J.Novoa
47. A.Ovechkin
48. R.Pérez Moreno
49. D.Sesma
Garmin
51. L.Sánchez Gil
52. T.Duggan
53. M.Fischer
54. F.Kessiakoff
55. M.Maaskant
56. D.Pate
57. J.Rojas Gil
58. P.Stetina
59. M.Wilson
Rabobank
61. M.Rogers
62. G.Brown
63. Ó.Freire Gómez
64. J.Gárate
65. S.Langeveld
66. P.Martens
67. J.Posthuma
68. M.Tjallingii
69. L.Westra
HTC
71. P.Velits
72. H.Clarke
73. G.Dockx
74. A.Howard
75. M.Renshaw
76. V.Reynès Mimo
77. M.Sieberg
78. K.Sivtsov
79. E.Vorganov
Omega
81. K.Seeldraeyers
82. J.Bakelants
83. M.Delage
84. M.Elijzen
85. J.Ljungblad
86. D.Moreno
87. J.Van Goolen
88. J.Vanendert
89. S.Vanmarcke
Katusha
91. C.Sastre
92. P.Brutt
93. J.Horrach
94. M.Ignatiev
95. M.Khalilov
96. N.Mardanov
97. A.Pliuschin
98. J.Rodríguez Oliver
99. M.Vantomme
Vacansoleil
101. J.Hoogerland
102. G.Gardeyn
103. M.Golas
104. M.Marcato
105. A.Ongarato
106. F.Rabon
107. R.Ruijgh
108. J.Van Leijen
109. F.Veuchelen
Movistar
111. V.Kiryienka
112. M.Bruseghin
113. M.Claude
114. A.Coyot
115. D.De la Fuente
116. P.Lastras
117. A.Losada
118. D.López García
119. L.Pasamontes
NetApp
121. M.Fothen
122. T.Fothen
123. R.Förster
124. T.Rohregger
125. R.Sentjens
126. N.Terpstra
127. P.Voß
128. R.Wagner
129. F.Wegmann
Saxobank
131. X.Tondo
132. L.Beuret
133. T.Bos
134. X.Florencio
135. R.Hammond
136. A.Klier
137. D.Lloyd
138. O.Pujol Muñoz
139. M.Wyss
RadioShack
141. T.Machado
142. M.Irizar
143. T.Leezer
144. G.Lequatre
145. G.Rast
146. S.Rosseler
147. B.Selander
148. T.Vaitkus
149. F.Ventoso
BMC
151. A.Klöden
152. A.Kristoff
153. K.Kroon
154. A.Moos
155. S.Morabito
156. J.Murphy
157. R.Pidgornyy
158. M.Santambrogio
159. D.Wyss
FDJ
161. B.Vaugrenard
162. O.Bonnaire
163. A.Geslin
164. F.Guesdon
165. Y.Hutarovich
166. M.Ladagnous
167. F.Mourey
168. A.Roux
169. W.Sulzberger
Xacobeo
171. C.Castaño
172. J.De Segovia Botella
173. D.Fernández
174. D.García Dapena
175. A.Lahoz
176. S.Martínez
177. N.Oliveira
178. F.Pacheco
179. G.Rabuñal Ríos
Lampre
181. F.Ginanni
182. M.Bono
183. V.Buts
184. A.Furlan
185. M.Lorenzetto
186. A.Malori
187. D.Napolitano
188. A.Rasmussen
189. D.Ulissi
Andalucia
191. A.Cabello
192. M.Calvente
193. S.Carrasco
194. J.Estrada Ruiz
195. P.Lechuga
196. M.Ortega
197. J.Rosendo
198. Á.Vicioso
A really strong startlist for the Vuelta. A closer look on the favourites in an extra post again. Just a short not of missing riders:
Mosquera and Marchante as written for the wildcard teams.
Damiano Cunego is also missing in this GT. So the winner of the Giro 2010 must be very disappointing for not being nominated in all GT`s this season.
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Tough competition for LLS.
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@Tuco Indeed. It will be hard to beat all the better climbers and Rojas should definitely be a strong sprinter here especially with his hill stat. Hopefully we can win some stages or the points jersey with him, but this will be very hard
Overall favourites
He proved last year that he can be in a top form atthe Vuelta after riding the Tour. He had a very similar season plan this year and is of course favourite number one.
Kreuziger also rode a fantastic Tour and improved very well this season. With his climbing and timetrial skills he is another good bet for a podium.
Wiggins is the third big favourite for a podium. He also had a good Tour except of this one stage, that cost him the 2nd in the overall.
Frank Schleck had already a long season but he didn`t give everything during the Tour de France. So he might have more energy left. With Porte and Fuglsang, which are also good for a top 10, he has one of the strongest squads behind him.
With just ~40 race days, Sanchez will be in a top shape for the whole Vuelta. Most opponents have already between 50-65. But will this advantage be enough to beat the bests?
Sanchez did very well last year but he starts to decrease. It`s not that bad this season and it might be the last chance for him to win a GT, but his season was also quite long.
On the last timetrial Rogers kicked Hesjedal out of the top 10 in the Tour, hopefully this won`t happen again in the Vuelta with Sanchez.
He has already most race days of all favourites, so his chances might be limited.
He is no longer the top climber he was a few years ago, but with a good shape he is still able to perform great on hard terrain. But also because of his weak timetrial skills it will be hard to get a top 5 for him. So he might be one of the big favourites for the KoM jersey, too.
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Strong start list. Hope anyone can beat Contador from another win.
Good luck for Sanchez =) Rojas hopefully can grab some stage wins
Spoiler And of course, hoping for Fischer in a breakaway or anything like that 
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Sprinters/Point jersey
Allan Davis is definitely one of the most successful sprinters in the field. He had several good results in big races in this season and is also quite good on hills. So he is the biggest bet for point jersey.
With his success in the Vattenfall Cyclassics he proved that he can beat big names in a sprint. So he is one of the main favourites for the flat stages. On the "hilly" sprint stages he might have problems.
Rojas is a very similar rider than Davis but he hasn`t proved to beat the big names. But I hope that he will start with it this Vuelta.
Ventoso had a very long season with RadioShack and also a quite successful one. Often he had to share the sprints with Leezer, Steegmans or Hushovd but this year he will be the leader on the flat stages.
Well, Sagan won`t probably beat the others in a totally flat stage. But he is probably the best mix between top puncheur and top sprinter. So it will be interesting to see how he performs. He might have the disadvantage that Kreuziger could need his help.
Also one of the best sprinters one flat terrain but struggling on hilly stages. Graeme Brown from the Rabobank Team will have a good support by Oscar Freire, the former great Spanish sprinter.
As Kreuziger is more or less the only real contender for the Youth Ranking and to bet on the mountain ranking is also quite hard the next report will be stage 1.
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Looking forward to this Vuelta, as this is my favourite grand tour.. an interesting and strong startlist. Good luck!
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After all the formalities a stage report again.
Hope I didn`t bore you too much
La Vuelta a Espana - Stage 1
Granada - Cogollos de la Vega
The Vuelta starts with a short timetrial but longer than a prologue.
Sanchez is definitely one of todays favourites. Other favourites are the timetrial specialists plus Contador and Wiggins.
Richie Porte is the first of the possible top 10 riders. He surprised all cycling experts last year with his WC coup. He will be in a great form this year, too after the Vuelta. I like the Milram shoes for Leopard - Trek. Should change this as fast as possible. Weird as I changed Saxobank and Leopard and not Milram.
17'12
The Danish champion Fuglsang will ride for our team next year. He beats his team mate by a few seconds.
17'05
(I hate these national Leopard jerseys as you see nothing of the flag from above)
Peter Velits improved quite well into a great allrounder. He could get a top 10 but with already 65 race days this will be hard for him.
17'25
Michael Rogers helped Gesink in the Tour but here he will the Rabobank`s leader. But his time could have been better.
17'16
Luis Leon Sanchez starts his first GT this season with big goals. He sets a new best time and beats all time trial specialists like Wyss, Elijzen or Westra. Great start for him. He also gains quite a lot time on many contenders.
16'28
Samuel Sanchez did quite good today. He seems to be in a good shape with a similar time than Fuglsang.
17'04
The British champion Bradley Wiggins also can`t beat Sanchez. He is 29s slower.
16'57
Frank Schleck is definitely not the best time trialist but therefore one of the strongest climbers. His time isn`t that bad for him.
17'19
He could be Contador`s biggest contender. The young Czech Kreuziger with the same time than Sanchez.
17'04
Just Contador can beat us now. But Sanchez at his season peak, not sure about Contador that late after a great season so far. He "just" finishes 5th and we can celebrate the first Vuelta win in 2011 and much earlier than expected. Contador was 22s slower than our leader but still the second of all favourites.
Especially Rogers seems to be in just average form or he just had a bad day.
The main fight for the overall will start in the mountains and there everything can change extremely quick.
Result
| 1 | Luis León Sánchez Gil | Garmin - Cervelo | 16'28 | | 2 | Lieuwe Westra | Rabobank | + 2 | | 3 | Marcel Wyss | Team Saxobank - Sungard | + 14 | | 4 | Michiel Elijzen | Omega Pharma-Lotto | + 20 | | 5 | Alberto Contador | Astana | + 22 | | 6 | Sébastien Rosseler | Team RadioShack | + 26 | | 7 | Jonathan Castroviejo | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 29 | | 8 | Bradley Wiggins | Sky Professional Cycling Team | s.t. | | 9 | Joost Posthuma | Rabobank | + 31 | | 10 | Frantisek Rabon | Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team | + 35 |
Spoiler | 11 | Philippe Gilbert | Liquigas - Cannondale | s.t. | | 12 | Alex Rasmussen | Lampre-ISD | + 36 | | 13 | Roman Kreuziger | Liquigas - Cannondale | s.t. | | 14 | Samuel Sánchez | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | | 15 | Jakob Fuglsang | Team Leopard Trek | + 37 | | 16 | Xavier Tondo | Team Saxobank - Sungard | + 38 | | 17 | Dario Cioni | Sky Professional Cycling Team | + 40 | | 18 | Nelson Oliveira | Xacobeo Galicia | + 42 | | 19 | Artem Ovechkin | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 43 | | 20 | Richard Porte | Team Leopard Trek | + 44 | | 21 | Mikhail Ignatiev | Team Katusha | s.t. | | 22 | Pavel Brutt | Team Katusha | + 45 | | 23 | Benoît Vaugrenard | FDJ | + 46 | | 24 | Marzio Bruseghin | Team Movistar | + 48 | | 25 | Gert Dockx | Team HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 26 | Michael Rogers | Rabobank | s.t. | | 27 | Grégory Rast | Team RadioShack | s.t. | | 28 | Vasil Kiryienka | Team Movistar | s.t. | | 29 | Brian Bach Vandborg | Liquigas - Cannondale | s.t. | | 30 | Jurgen Van Goolen | Omega Pharma-Lotto | + 49 | | 31 | Markus Fothen | Team NetApp | + 50 | | 32 | Sebastian Langeveld | Rabobank | s.t. | | 33 | Fränk Schleck | Team Leopard Trek | + 51 | | 34 | José Antonio De Segovia Botella | Xacobeo Galicia | s.t. | | 35 | Chris Froome | Sky Professional Cycling Team | s.t. | | 36 | Paul Martens | Rabobank | + 52 | | 37 | Jan Bakelants | Omega Pharma-Lotto | + 53 | | 38 | Tiago Machado | Team RadioShack | s.t. | | 39 | Danny Pate | Garmin - Cervelo | s.t. | | 40 | Luis Pasamontes | Team Movistar | + 54 | | 41 | Fredrik Kessiakoff | Garmin - Cervelo | s.t. | | 42 | Andreas Klöden | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 43 | Gonzalo Rabuñal Ríos | Xacobeo Galicia | + 55 | | 44 | Timothy Duggan | Garmin - Cervelo | + 57 | | 45 | Peter Velits | Team HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 46 | Peter Sagan | Liquigas - Cannondale | s.t. | | 47 | Frederik Veuchelen | Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team | + 58 | | 48 | Markel Irizar | Team RadioShack | s.t. | | 49 | Ángel Vicioso | Andalucia - CajaSur | + 1'00 | | 50 | Óscar Pereiro Sio | Astana | s.t. | | 51 | Alexander Kristoff | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 52 | Koldo Fernández | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 1'01 | | 53 | Hilton Clarke | Team HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 54 | Joost Van Leijen | Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 55 | Christian Knees | Astana | + 1'02 | | 56 | Marcel Sieberg | Team HTC - Highroad | + 1'03 | | 57 | Carlos Castaño | Xacobeo Galicia | + 1'04 | | 58 | Antonio Cabello | Andalucia - CajaSur | s.t. | | 59 | Tom Leezer | Team RadioShack | s.t. | | 60 | Adam Leigh Howard | Team HTC - Highroad | + 1'05 | | 61 | Adriano Malori | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 62 | Roy Sentjens | Team NetApp | s.t. | | 63 | Thomas Fothen | Team NetApp | s.t. | | 64 | Alexandr Pliuschin | Team Katusha | s.t. | | 65 | Stuart O'Grady | Team Leopard Trek | + 1'06 | | 66 | Daniel Navarro | Astana | s.t. | | 67 | Jesús Rosendo | Andalucia - CajaSur | s.t. | | 68 | David García Dapena | Xacobeo Galicia | s.t. | | 69 | Kurt-Asle Arvesen | Sky Professional Cycling Team | s.t. | | 70 | Tomas Vaitkus | Team RadioShack | + 1'07 | | 71 | Kevin Seeldraeyers | Omega Pharma-Lotto | s.t. | | 72 | Baden Cooke | Team Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 73 | Martijn Maaskant | Garmin - Cervelo | s.t. | | 74 | Daniel Lloyd | Team Saxobank - Sungard | + 1'08 | | 75 | Alexandre Moos | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 76 | Niki Terpstra | Team NetApp | + 1'09 | | 77 | Gorik Gardeyn | Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team | + 1'10 | | 78 | Carlos Sastre | Team Katusha | s.t. | | 79 | Kanstantsin Sivtsov | Team HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 80 | Wesley Sulzberger | FDJ | + 1'11 | | 81 | Mathieu Claude | Team Movistar | + 1'12 | | 82 | Michał Gołaś | Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 83 | Mathieu Ladagnous | FDJ | s.t. | | 84 | Kasper Klostergård | Team Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 85 | Matthew Wilson | Garmin - Cervelo | + 1'13 | | 86 | Laurent Didier | Team Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 87 | Anthony Geslin | FDJ | s.t. | | 88 | Sep Vanmarcke | Omega Pharma-Lotto | + 1'14 | | 89 | Eduard Vorganov | Team HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 90 | John Murphy | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 91 | Steve Morabito | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 92 | Lars Petter Nordhaug | Sky Professional Cycling Team | s.t. | | 93 | Mark Renshaw | Team HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 94 | Thomas Rohregger | Team NetApp | s.t. | | 95 | Karsten Kroon | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 96 | Benjamín Noval | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 1'15 | | 97 | Assan Bazayev | Astana | s.t. | | 98 | Allan Davis | Astana | s.t. | | 99 | Christopher Sutton | Sky Professional Cycling Team | + 1'16 | | 100 | Marco Marcato | Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 101 | Pablo Lechuga | Andalucia - CajaSur | s.t. | | 102 | Maxim Gourov | Astana | s.t. | | 103 | Xavier Florencio | Team Saxobank - Sungard | s.t. | | 104 | Joaquím Rodríguez Oliver | Team Katusha | + 1'17 | | 105 | Aleksandr Kuschynski | Liquigas - Cannondale | s.t. | | 106 | Vitaliy Buts | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 107 | Francisco Ventoso | Team RadioShack | + 1'18 | | 108 | Fabian Wegmann | Team NetApp | s.t. | | 109 | Laurent Beuret | Team Saxobank - Sungard | s.t. | | 110 | Ruslan Pidgornyy | BMC Racing Team | + 1'19 | | 111 | Peter Stetina | Garmin - Cervelo | s.t. | | 112 | Alberto Losada | Team Movistar | s.t. | | 113 | Murilo Fischer | Garmin - Cervelo | + 1'20 | | 114 | Joan Horrach | Team Katusha | s.t. | | 115 | Mickaël Delage | Omega Pharma-Lotto | s.t. | | 116 | Morris Possoni | Sky Professional Cycling Team | s.t. | | 117 | Matteo Bono | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 118 | David López García | Team Movistar | + 1'21 | | 119 | Paul Voß | Team NetApp | s.t. | | 120 | Maxime Vantomme | Team Katusha | + 1'22 | | 121 | Óscar Freire Gómez | Rabobank | s.t. | | 122 | Dominic Klemme | Team Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 123 | Daniel Sesma | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 1'23 | | 124 | Marcos García | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | | 125 | Juan Manuel Gárate | Rabobank | s.t. | | 126 | Yauheni Hutarovich | FDJ | s.t. | | 127 | Manuel Calvente | Andalucia - CajaSur | s.t. | | 128 | Robert Wagner | Team NetApp | s.t. | | 129 | Theo Bos | Team Saxobank - Sungard | + 1'24 | | 130 | Gregory Henderson | Sky Professional Cycling Team | s.t. | | 131 | Johnny Hoogerland | Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team | + 1'25 | | 132 | Jonas Ljungblad | Omega Pharma-Lotto | s.t. | | 133 | Delio Fernández | Xacobeo Galicia | s.t. | | 134 | Alexandr Dyachenko | Astana | s.t. | | 135 | Anthony Roux | FDJ | + 1'26 | | 136 | Juan Estrada Ruiz | Andalucia - CajaSur | s.t. | | 137 | Roger Hammond | Team Saxobank - Sungard | s.t. | | 138 | Rubén Pérez Moreno | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 1'27 | | 139 | Arnaud Coyot | Team Movistar | + 1'28 | | 140 | Serafín Martínez | Xacobeo Galicia | s.t. | | 141 | Graeme Brown | Rabobank | + 1'29 | | 142 | José Joaquín Rojas Gil | Garmin - Cervelo | s.t. | | 143 | Rob Ruijgh | Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 144 | Maarten Tjallingii | Rabobank | s.t. | | 145 | Diego Ulissi | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 146 | Adolfo Lahoz | Xacobeo Galicia | + 1'31 | | 147 | Pablo Lastras | Team Movistar | s.t. | | 148 | Daniel Moreno | Omega Pharma-Lotto | s.t. | | 149 | Oliver Zaugg | Liquigas - Cannondale | + 1'32 | | 150 | Jesús Hernández | Astana | s.t. | | 151 | Mirco Lorenzetto | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 152 | Frédéric Guesdon | FDJ | s.t. | | 153 | Juan José Haedo | Team Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 154 | Olivier Bonnaire | FDJ | s.t. | | 155 | Geoffroy Lequatre | Team RadioShack | s.t. | | 156 | Joaquín Novoa | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 1'33 | | 157 | Jelle Vanendert | Omega Pharma-Lotto | s.t. | | 158 | Sergio Carrasco | Andalucia - CajaSur | s.t. | | 159 | Mauro Santambrogio | BMC Racing Team | + 1'34 | | 160 | Danilo Wyss | BMC Racing Team | + 1'35 | | 161 | Francesco Chicchi | Liquigas - Cannondale | s.t. | | 162 | Francis Mourey | FDJ | + 1'36 | | 163 | Andreas Klier | Team Saxobank - Sungard | s.t. | | 164 | Francesco Ginanni | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 165 | David De la Fuente | Team Movistar | s.t. | | 166 | Manuel Ortega | Andalucia - CajaSur | + 1'37 | | 167 | Frederik Willems | Liquigas - Cannondale | + 1'38 | | 168 | Alberto Ongarato | Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 169 | Vicente Reynès Mimo | Team HTC - Highroad | + 1'39 | | 170 | Fabio Sabatini | Liquigas - Cannondale | + 1'40 | | 171 | Oscar Pujol Muñoz | Team Saxobank - Sungard | + 1'41 | | 172 | Francisco Pacheco | Xacobeo Galicia | + 1'42 | | 173 | Angelo Furlan | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 174 | Danilo Napolitano | Lampre-ISD | + 1'46 | | 175 | Bjørn Selander | Team RadioShack | + 1'48 | | 176 | Mikhaylo Khalilov | Team Katusha | + 1'51 | | 177 | Robert Förster | Team NetApp | + 1'54 | | 178 | Namig Mardanov | Team Katusha | + 1'55 | | 179 | Ian Wilkinson | Sky Professional Cycling Team | + 1'56 |
P:| 1 | Luis León Sánchez Gil | Garmin - Cervelo | 25 | | 2 | Lieuwe Westra | Rabobank | 20 | | 3 | Marcel Wyss | Team Saxobank - Sungard | 16 |
U25:| 1 | Marcel Wyss | Team Saxobank - Sungard | 16'42 (1) | | 2 | Jonathan Castroviejo | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 15 (2) | | 3 | Roman Kreuziger | Liquigas - Cannondale | + 22 (3) |
Team:| 1 | Rabobank | 50'45 (1) | | 2 | Garmin - Cervelo | + 26 (2) | | 3 | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 27 (3) |
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That's great and promising start
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roturn wrote:
to bet on the mountain ranking is also quite hard
David de la Fuente FTW! |
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You can´t start better in a Grand Tour
All the best for you and your team in Spain! |
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Thanks all.
@ Tuco: Indeed this is in reality always a good bet like Moncoutie. Haven`t even realized that he took part here. But with +1'36 he is preparing something obviously. |
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Great result, hopefully first win of many, I think you can win the Vuleta with bit of luck on your side, good luck |
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roturn wrote:
@ Tuco: Indeed this is in reality always a good bet like Moncoutie. Haven`t even realized that he took part here. But with +1'36 he is preparing something obviously.
Exactly my thinking...
In reality, the KOM winner will more than likely be the overall winner. Seems to happen a lot in PCM unless the user goes for it.
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Very good start of the Vuelta.
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Hell of a start...
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