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Croatia14 |
Posted on 18-01-2015 20:39
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the_hoyle wrote:
@trek & jandal: That is what our scouting team is all about We make sure we find everyone!
That´s what we need! Also great ideas from you guys... |
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Croatia14 |
Posted on 19-01-2015 14:31
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Luxembourg - Riders Selection
So we got some decent suggestions from you:
HuDCC wrote:
Of course, you have to sign Frank Schleck!
Why? He is Andy's brother, and they have always been together during career, so there is no way to have a team without Frank!
jandal7 wrote:
You should sign Bob Jungels.
He is one of the most promising time triallists around, as well as being accomplished in the hills and mountains, he is great in breakaways and late attacks.
You should sign Jempy Drucker.
He is a vastly experienced cyclist, who still has lots of ability.
You should sign Frank Schleck.
He is once again a very experienced cyclist with plenty of talent left to give , and he is of course Andy's brother.
You should (probably not) sign Ben Gastauer.
A young climbing domestique, he did some loyal work for AG2R at Le Tour last year.
the_hoyle wrote:
As above, plus Lauren Didier - good domestique who can also work well in a free role / in the break
trekbmc wrote:
Does Christian Poos still race? He would be a good domestique although a little old.
Addition
So you didn´t missed out any quality riders from Luxembourg. To add on I would like to throw the names of Alex Kirsch and Kevin Feiereisen in the discussion. The two of them were the most successful young Luxembourgian of the Leopard Development Team the last year. They could fit in our team as domestiques on PCT-status.
Your Task!
Select the riders you want to sign for us:
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sutty68 |
Posted on 19-01-2015 16:09
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Sorry for not adding any suggestions , but i have made my vote anyway |
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Croatia14 |
Posted on 19-01-2015 17:48
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@sutty you will get your chances in other countries though ;) |
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trekbmc |
Posted on 19-01-2015 19:29
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My massive multi-rider vote.
And I suggested Gasteur first. Actually it doesn't really matter and isn't worth mentioning because we are just going to have him on the team....
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Croatia14 |
Posted on 21-01-2015 22:19
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Luxemburg Riders Confirmation
Your votes decided our first team members!
We will sign Frank Schleck as a leader. Bob Jungels will get a free role, due to his age and talent. Laurent Didier will be a weightful domestique in hills and mountains; he will get some chances too. Alex Kirsch will be a domestique, which can change due to form and developement.
So our team will firstly look like this:
| Frank Schleck | Leader | | Bob Jungels | Co-Leader | | Laurent Didier | Pro-Domestique | | Alex Kirsch | Domestique |
Hard decision
We actually won´t sign Jempy Drucker yet. He is also in talks to BMC, which makes it hard for us to match their wage. After the signings in other countries we will talk to him again as well as to Ben Gastauer.
Do you agree with this decision?
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Leopard finally managed to send us the main logo of their cycling campaign. You most likely won´t find it on our jersey, but it will be like a mascot for us:
Contract Trip #2 - Germany
We are moving on to Germany , where Jens will lead the discussions.
Germany has a great amount of talents, especially when we talk about sprinting and time-trials. They are nearly as successful as the elites like Martin, Kittel, Degenkolb and Greipel, so they promise a lot. The problem for us is the rising amount of german teams, especially with Bora-Argon 18 and Giant-Alpecin. Many riders also have a special relationships to their teams, so we have to point out on a high level why they should sign a contract with our team.
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Suggest riders from Germany!
Explain why we should sign them and why they would like to join our team! |
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Croatia14 |
Posted on 21-01-2015 22:20
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@trekbmc I know, but quoting from jandal7 i could include the description. |
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Posted on 21-01-2015 22:24
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You should sign Silvio Herklotz. He is a promising if slightly overhyped young talent.
I also think you should try to bring in John Degenkolb, though I'm not sure if he would like to ride for a most probably PCT team, though we would then get wildcards for many races.
I also think Geschke would be a useful domestique.
Dominik Nerz would be a useful domestique/leader in the mountains.
There are many more though, I'll think of some others?
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trekbmc |
Posted on 21-01-2015 22:38
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@Croatia don't worry, I don't have a problem
Sad not to sign Christian Poos, I was also hoping Gastuer would get a contract.
Anyway German riders:
Just deleted 3 riders because jandal posted them first.
Phil Bauhaus is a talented young sprinter.
Gerald Ciolek would be a strong sprint leader if we can bring him in.
Christian Knees is a very strong roleur.
Patrick Gretsch is another very strong roleur.
Nikias Arndt is a strong sprinter and Time Trialist and is only 23.
Andreas Kloden is an experienced climbing domestique.
Fabian Weggeman is a talented puncheur.
Julian Kern is a talented young stage racer.
Robert Wagner is a strong lead-out man.
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sutty68 |
Posted on 21-01-2015 22:55
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John Degenkolb or Marcl Kittel because to have either of these two riders included in the squad would surely open up more doors for potential sponsors and more race invites |
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the_hoyle |
Posted on 21-01-2015 23:06
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In terms of Germany, I want to say no to Degenkolb, Kittel or Griepel. They are too big, and we should be looking elsewhere.
Patrick Gretsch, Simon Geschke, Julian Kern get my vote on those already mentioned. Also Rick Zabel (young Sprinter), Bjorn Thurau (good puncheur) and Dominic Klemme (domestique)
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Croatia14 |
Posted on 21-01-2015 23:17
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the_hoyle wrote:
In terms of Germany, I want to say no to Degenkolb, Kittel or Griepel. They are too big, and we should be looking elsewhere.
Your votes say we should mainly focus on being a Pro-Conti Team, therefore I would think so too.
Riders like Dominik Nerz, Bjorn Thurau and Phil Bauhaus just signed with one of the best Pro-Conti teams from Germany, all having free or captain roles, why would they change their team now? I would really like them in our team though ;) Sadly Herklotz rejected Boras offer to develop one year on CT-level riding U23 races, so would he realy come to us too...?
Anyway, great suggestions so far. Maybe we could think about more riders in a domestique role...
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Posted on 21-01-2015 23:46
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All the riders I suggested can ride as domestiques, apart from Ciolek.
And why does the Hoyle always get all the guys I was thinking of but couldn't quite get who?
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Croatia14 |
Posted on 21-01-2015 23:50
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trekbmc wrote:
All the riders I suggested can ride as domestiques, apart from Ciolek.
that´s for sure, maybe only cutting out Nikias Arndt. I really like your ideas, especially bringing some experience in the team or beware riders of giving up their career :)
Edited by Croatia14 on 21-01-2015 23:51
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Posted on 21-01-2015 23:56
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Croatia14 wrote:
trekbmc wrote:
All the riders I suggested can ride as domestiques, apart from Ciolek.
that´s for sure, maybe only cutting out Nikias Arndt. I really like your ideas, especially bringing some experience in the team or beware riders of giving up their career
Nikita's Arndt can be a lead-out man if that's what you mean, if you just mean that you don't like him then yeah.
As for retirement, Kloden would be a the main problem, but I think he would ride at least two more seasons.
I really like the idea of this game, a lot of fun how the community puts together a team.
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Croatia14 |
Posted on 22-01-2015 00:13
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I like Nikias Arndt a lot, but by watching his success in the World Tour and how he got built up by Giant it will be tough to get him from Giant-Alpecin, if we don´t give him a leader role. Similar is the point with Simon Geschke. Luckily we have up to 3 leaderships to giveaway ;)
I want to keep this story pretty realistic with you guys, that´s why I try to regulate the results of the ideas you give a little. Hope you enjoy it like this
Great how you guys accept this idea :) |
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Posted on 22-01-2015 00:18
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Yeah fair enough with Arndt and Geshke and yeah I agree about regulating ideas, it's a lot more enjoyable if it's realistic and if you don't regulate it, it's likely that people may differ on who they want as leader and the team will end up to good.
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Posted on 22-01-2015 08:05
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I'll bring also some names, and I agree with the_hoyle in that situation about Kittel, Degenkolb...
I would sign Fabian Wegmann and Linus Gerdemann, both are very experienced riders, who could lead the team, but also be great domestiques during stage races!
Thank you Andy for everything!
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Posted on 22-01-2015 10:11
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Croatia14 wrote:
I like Nikias Arndt a lot, but by watching his success in the World Tour and how he got built up by Giant it will be tough to get him from Giant-Alpecin, if we don´t give him a leader role. Similar is the point with Simon Geschke. Luckily we have up to 3 leaderships to giveaway
I want to keep this story pretty realistic with you guys, that´s why I try to regulate the results of the ideas you give a little. Hope you enjoy it like this
Great how you guys accept this idea
Well, I'm all for giving Geschke a leading role. At least for the first season he ought to put our team on the map with some good results, if we can offer him some strong domestiques
Bjorn Thurau should definitely be a priority for the future! |
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the_hoyle |
Posted on 22-01-2015 18:04
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Well Schleck already has one leader role so that leaves two remaining. Giving them both to German riders might rule out some big riders from the other nations
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