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matt17br
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Maybe someone could replace them? But i doubt some real actions will be done against them,maybe just some exception to licence, in case of new cases next year?

Also this does not give much credibility to Tour win of Nibali. At least in eyes of those,who does not follow cycling so much, because those who do, know what kind of person Vino is.

No, please, not Nibali Sad
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matt17br wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Maybe someone could replace them? But i doubt some real actions will be done against them,maybe just some exception to licence, in case of new cases next year?

Also this does not give much credibility to Tour win of Nibali. At least in eyes of those,who does not follow cycling so much, because those who do, know what kind of person Vino is.

No, please, not Nibali Sad


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Nin1388
Despite his brother being caught using doping masking agent Andy Schleck was never tested positive or has been involved in any doping accusations or tests. And it's only fair that he did not use any unethical means and boost his performance after crash, just to show all that he is back. He was not good enough and he retired.

Only Lemond , Sastre, Evans, Andy Schleck, Wiggins, Froome and Nibali are clean TdF winners. No idea how long will that stat will last.
 
Dippofix
Nin1388 wrote:
Despite his brother being caught using doping masking agent Andy Schleck was never tested positive or has been involved in any doping accusations or tests. And it's only fair that he did not use any unethical means and boost his performance after crash, just to show all that he is back. He was not good enough and he retired.

Only Lemond , Sastre, Evans, Andy Schleck, Wiggins, Froome and Nibali are clean TdF winners. No idea how long will that stat will last.

So Tour winners that never got caught doping, or what? Because if you're making a list of riders you think were clean, Froome shouldn't have a place on it. If you're talking of riders that never got caught, add Stephen Roche, and at least another dozen or so others.
 
Avin Wargunnson
Dippofix wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
Despite his brother being caught using doping masking agent Andy Schleck was never tested positive or has been involved in any doping accusations or tests. And it's only fair that he did not use any unethical means and boost his performance after crash, just to show all that he is back. He was not good enough and he retired.

Only Lemond , Sastre, Evans, Andy Schleck, Wiggins, Froome and Nibali are clean TdF winners. No idea how long will that stat will last.

So Tour winners that never got caught doping, or what? Because if you're making a list of riders you think were clean, Froome shouldn't have a place on it. If you're talking of riders that never got caught, add Stephen Roche, and at least another dozen or so others.

Roche you say? Smile

From his wiki page:
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In May 1990, Paul Kimmage a former professional, Fagor team mate of Roche and a fellow Dubliner published an account of life in the peloton. His book Rough Ride exposed drug use apparently endemic in the peloton but spoke in fawning terms about Roche. Publication resulted in a threat of litigation from Roche.

It was reported in the Rome newspaper, La Repubblica, in January 2000 that Francesco Conconi, a professor at the University of Ferrara involved with administering erythropoietin (EPO) to riders on the Carrera team with which Roche had some of his best years, had provided riders including Roche with EPO. Roche denied the allegations.[8] This was further reported in the Irish Times several days later, Roche again denying EPO.[9] In March 2000 the Italian judge Franca Oliva published a report detailing the investigation into sports doctors including Conconi.[10] This official judicial investigation unequivocally found that Roche was administered EPO in 1993, his last year in the peloton.[11] Files part of the investigation allegedly detail a number of aliases for Roche including Rocchi, Rossi, Rocca, Roncati, Righi and Rossini.[12] In 2004 Judge Oliva again alleged that Roche had taken EPO during 1993 but due to the statute of limitations, neither Roche nor his team-mates at Carrera would be prosecuted.[13]

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Schleck96
My favorite bike rider retired, I'm sad now.... Gotta find a new one!! Grin
 
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IMO he was doping when he was getting very good results when he was good like %50-90 of pro cyclists and was one of the best among them.
Firstly he injured then his brother got caught and he stopped doping and then he had some alcohol and personal issues and then he became a father.
You will never be the same cyclist if you have a child and fearing from and if your brother is caught from doping
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Rob81
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Rob81 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Andy was a disgrace to a professional sport. An example which should not be followed...


I hope you refer to 2012 and onwards because before he was'nt exactly what I would call a disgrace.

Nope, i refer to his whole career (so all the L-B-L + Tour seasons). + 1 Giro in his first year


Well, that places your view on cycling in perspective...
Edited by Rob81 on 09-10-2014 15:58
 
ianrussell
MartijnVDD wrote:
Why do they not consider Cofidis for WT?
They already ride two GTs every year, they got a large roster as well and recently did some very good signings including one of the current top sprinters.
Is it based on nationality? There are already two French teams in WT...


Good read from Inrng on why would they or many other PCT teams want to step up:

The world is full of cycling teams but not enough want to join the top tier. It’s expensive, see A Shortage of Teams for the World Tour? for the full story or just remember a World Tour licence is expensive: why would teams pay up when they’ll get a wildcard invite to the Tour de France and other big races anyway? See Cofidis which has no business in Italy but will be sure of invites to plenty of other big races thanks to Nacer Bouhanni, the same for MTN-Qhubeka with Edvald Boasson-Hagen. In short teams know they can ride premium races without paying for a premium licence.

Full article here https://inrng.com/2014/10/2015-uci-pro...m-q-and-a/
 
baseballlover312
Nin1388 wrote:
Despite his brother being caught using doping masking agent Andy Schleck was never tested positive or has been involved in any doping accusations or tests. And it's only fair that he did not use any unethical means and boost his performance after crash, just to show all that he is back. He was not good enough and he retired.

Only Lemond , Sastre, Evans, Andy Schleck, Wiggins, Froome and Nibali are clean TdF winners. No idea how long will that stat will last.


Good try, but only 2 of those were likely clean.

And anyway, Schleck won based on another doper being caught, so i don't think that really counts. :lol:
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Riis123
In terms of pure talent, god-given talent or whatever you wanna call it, I only see Andy surpassed by Jan Ullrich in the last 20 years. Shame he only could pull him together for short stretches of the season and seemed like he didn't really care that much sometimes, quite similar to Ullrich.

Its sad to see, because he was truly one of the best climbers. The photo of him winning on Galibier still is the best photo and one that i will remember for some time, the same way I will remember Rasmussen on Aubisque 2007.
 
HuDCC
Schleck96 wrote:
My favorite bike rider retired, I'm sad now.... Gotta find a new one!! Grin


have the same Grin
Thank you Andy for everything!

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SportingNonsense
This made me laugh:

https://www.thecyclingtimes.com/schlec...his-words/

Schleck abandons press conference after tripping over his words

Andy Schleck’s long awaited press conference ended in disaster moments ago when the Luxembourger tripped over his words and abandoned the conference, only two minutes in.

The kind-of-Tour de France winner told the gathered journalists that he will finally be off fishing after going through the oddest career path cycling has ever seen. “I have tried retirement in the past two years and I view it as an exciting next step in my career,” the Benjamin Button of cycling explained, shortly before pulling out.

There were some rumours in the peloton that Schleck had been dropped on the way to the press conference, but those turned out to be about as truthful as Alberto Contador’s explanations of why he is not riding the Tour of Beijing.

After retiring Schleck will naturally attack the World Hour Record, in his own style. “I will attempt to ride the first 20 minutes of the hour record – I don’t want to pull anyone’s chain.”

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matt17br
SportingNonsense wrote:
This made me laugh:

https://www.thecyclingtimes.com/schlec...his-words/

Schleck abandons press conference after tripping over his words

Andy Schleck’s long awaited press conference ended in disaster moments ago when the Luxembourger tripped over his words and abandoned the conference, only two minutes in.

The kind-of-Tour de France winner told the gathered journalists that he will finally be off fishing after going through the oddest career path cycling has ever seen. “I have tried retirement in the past two years and I view it as an exciting next step in my career,” the Benjamin Button of cycling explained, shortly before pulling out.

There were some rumours in the peloton that Schleck had been dropped on the way to the press conference, but those turned out to be about as truthful as Alberto Contador’s explanations of why he is not riding the Tour of Beijing.

After retiring Schleck will naturally attack the World Hour Record, in his own style. “I will attempt to ride the first 20 minutes of the hour record – I don’t want to pull anyone’s chain.”

Hahahah lol :lol:
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Schleck96 wrote:
My favorite bike rider retired, I'm sad now.... Gotta find a new one!! Grin

Shall I change your username to Kelderman96 already or do you need some time to think about it first?
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alexkr00
I honestly don't understand how a rider like Andy Schleck had so many fans.

As for the hour record thing:

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dark_x2012
Dippofix wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
Despite his brother being caught using doping masking agent Andy Schleck was never tested positive or has been involved in any doping accusations or tests. And it's only fair that he did not use any unethical means and boost his performance after crash, just to show all that he is back. He was not good enough and he retired.

Only Lemond , Sastre, Evans, Andy Schleck, Wiggins, Froome and Nibali are clean TdF winners. No idea how long will that stat will last.

So Tour winners that never got caught doping, or what? Because if you're making a list of riders you think were clean, Froome shouldn't have a place on it. If you're talking of riders that never got caught, add Stephen Roche, and at least another dozen or so others.

Well Lance never had a positive sample Pfft
 
Shonak
Well, he did have some amazing climb abilitiy with a great style. Put the moaning aside, from the Giro 2007 onwards for some time, he was definitely an incredible talent to watch. I also liked the brother dynamic since I thought it added something rarely seen in cycling, especially in terms of tactics and the media representation ("It worked for the Schlecks so it's a good day" ).

I'll definitely miss him despite not being a fan of him. He was an interesting, ambivalent character who split the cycling crowd. I hoped he'd come back to former strength but clearly this was just wishful thinking. Maybe there's a chance for a PCMDaily Interview with him in a few months?

Cycling Times is always worth a laugh. Smile
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Strydz
dark_x2012 wrote:
Dippofix wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
Despite his brother being caught using doping masking agent Andy Schleck was never tested positive or has been involved in any doping accusations or tests. And it's only fair that he did not use any unethical means and boost his performance after crash, just to show all that he is back. He was not good enough and he retired.

Only Lemond , Sastre, Evans, Andy Schleck, Wiggins, Froome and Nibali are clean TdF winners. No idea how long will that stat will last.

So Tour winners that never got caught doping, or what? Because if you're making a list of riders you think were clean, Froome shouldn't have a place on it. If you're talking of riders that never got caught, add Stephen Roche, and at least another dozen or so others.

Well Lance never had a positive sample Pfft


Oh yes he did, 4 times @ 99 Le Tour Wink
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