Am not much smarter about the whereabouts of the sprints after the real Tour do Rio is over, but at least know how many and which category. I'll finish the race by making some (hopefully) educated guesses. Started with stage 3 as can be seen in the updated profile.
Thanks, Miguel.
I'm a bit disappointed about the hills (-relief), too.
Sadly "Gene_f_mountain altitude" says 0.46...
btw. is there any limit (e.g. 0.5) to be a categorized mountain stage?
Ok, here's what I got concerning sprints locations, based on looking their results, the breakaways that formed through the stage on the live text/picture feature and the "technical" information about the stage (not really technical, just what happened in the race - the non-technical stuff are for the non-cycling fans, so it's mostly landscapes, etc). Sorry that sometimes I mention too much stuff about the map, and not really about the profile, but I was looking at the map, and it'd be too much work to recreate every stage route so I could see what is what on the profile
Stage 1: two 3rd cat KOM sprints, one very likely located in the first climb (Estrada do Grumari - you can also name it Morro da Ilha, btw). 2 intermediate sprints, probably after Itaguaà (look in the map ), and both taken by the break. The last KOM sprint was taken by the P, so I'm guessing it's the near the end, perhaps BR-101.
Stage 2: again two 3rd cat mountains, and 2 IS. The first to come is the first IS; then comes the first mountain, I guess RJ145. The 2nd IS comes at 112 kms. Then the last mountain prize was in BR-040, it's not marked in the profile picture, but logically it must be that last ascent (it's the only thing which could have a mountain sprint), so you can just check if that part of the route is in BR040
Stage 3: first IS comes about 10 kms after the start, then 2 Cat 3 KOM climbs, both located in BR040, before the peloton reach Itaipava. The 2nd IS probably comes about there, before Itaipava as well. One of the KOM sprints is approximately in the km 70; if it isn't clear you can see on the map (here) - pic 64 shows the 1 km for KOM sprint sign. The last KOM climb is rather obvious, Cat 1*, the "Escalada de Itaipava".
* I thought it was Cat 2 at first, but seeing in stage 4 mountain results there's a KOM prize for 8 points, and being the 6-points KOM prizes Cat 3 climbs (dude says it in one of the videos), I believe this one is a Cat 1. You could move them all down one category though, classifying some of those as Cat 3 seem a bit exaggerated
Stage 4: well, as mentioned above, a Cat 1 and Cat 2 climbs, Cat 1 coming first, and 3 int. sprints, probably all (IS) coming after Cachoeiras de Macacu. Not much information about this one
Stage 5: no KOM sprints, and 4 IS. The first one probably only comes after they go away from the sea (in Rod Amaral Peixoto), and the 2nd probably before they reach Rio Bonito. Then the 3rd one is probably between Rio Bonito ~ ItaboraÃ, and the last one is likely after ItaboraÃ.
As for stage 3 being classified as hilly, I don't believe there's a limit or threshold on the MO ratio for it to be classified as mountain. But I wouldn't be much worried about that, at least going by the results: no colombians (EPM) winning, it must not have been much tough
Btw, if you want some ideas for landscape/scenery, the highlight videos are the way to go. The riders passing on Rio - Niteroi Bridge on the last stage is amazing
Wow, thanks a lot for the amazing research!
Smart efford to compare live-report and results... I already watched some videos, but never took the time to examine the photos (the map).
Placed IS and KOM for the first stage taking your hints into account, though here I put the first IS right into Itaguai...
Seems like I have to rebuild parts of stage 3. Was really convinced that the route goes through Petrópolis...
...and wondered why I have 15 km to much in the "middle section".
lluuiiggii wrote:
... You could move them all down one category though, classifying some of those as Cat 3 seem a bit exaggerated )
Am not sure how you mean this. Do you prefer to take 4,3,2 over 3,2,1 in the stage editor (for the three KOM categories)?
Truly grateful for your service, helps a lot!
PS: View on Niteroi-Bridge was really stunning.
PPS: Really happy to hear the light version works fine. Was great feedback, now I know that I need to take care about the sizes even if everything is running smoothly on my computer.
PPPS: You know that Real Cycling Team now definitely must be part of the next Daily-DB release (and Bike-Aid, too)
lluuiiggii wrote:
... You could move them all down one category though, classifying some of those as Cat 3 seem a bit exaggerated )
Am not sure how you mean this. Do you prefer to take 4,3,2 over 3,2,1 in the stage editor (for the three KOM categories)?
Yeah, I mean, look in the first climb of Stage 1.. how on earth would that ever be a Cat 3? Unless it's the TDU, where the Willunga Hill is .HC
I mean, ultimately it doesn't really matter, as long as all stages follow the same pattern for climbing-categories.. but looking at a 1km hill as a Cat 3 looks so weird
Margh Norway wrote:
PPPS: You know that Real Cycling Team now definitely must be part of the next Daily-DB release (and Bike-Aid, too)
Yeah, if Efapel decided to play TdF-Sky in Volta a Portugal, Real Cycling (or Padaria Real, the main sponsor and team name up to this year, which means "Real Bakery" ) decided to play Sky here in Brazil 2 riders on podium in the first 3 stages (winning all 3), one rider on podium in the last two stages and basically won everything: 1,2 and 4 in GC + 1,2 in Points + Mountains + Teams Classification. In fact, they did not "basically" win everything - they literally won everything. Seems legit
But really, I really hope that the Tour do Rio goes 1.1 next year (there were some UCI commissionaires to analyze if the race could get it - and honestly, at least from a spectator's point of view, it definitely does; although some rather basic stuff directly related to the racing were missing - e.g. more detailed profiles, but that's kinda what you'd expect when trying to attract a public not really into the sport, case of the majority in Brazil - the promotion of the event was fantastic, beating hands down any other race I've seen in South America). Not only seeing from the cycling perspective, but also it could mean that there'd be enough teams showing up for a realistic set in the DB, and after all this work to create the stages they could be realistically added in it
But anyway, Funvic would be the team to be added instead of Real (in a hypothetical situation ). Besides being a better team, they have (at least this year) a more international calendar - from the races in the DB, they also took part in Tour de San Luis and Volta a Portugal
lluuiiggii wrote:
... You could move them all down one category though, classifying some of those as Cat 3 seem a bit exaggerated )
Am not sure how you mean this. Do you prefer to take 4,3,2 over 3,2,1 in the stage editor (for the three KOM categories)?
Yeah, I mean, look in the first climb of Stage 1.. how on earth would that ever be a Cat 3? Unless it's the TDU, where the Willunga Hill is .HC
I mean, ultimately it doesn't really matter, as long as all stages follow the same pattern for climbing-categories.. but looking at a 1km hill as a Cat 3 looks so weird
Right... and in addition it looks more common when there are some 1-Pointers in the KOM-category at the end of a tour.
Fingers crossed for the 1.1 ambitions of Tour do Rio and thanks for the insight. Hope there is no negative spin to that issue by watching a small homebrewn Team beeing so dominant. Commissioners might interpret the result in something like: "Sadly Tour do Rio is not attracting stronger Teams!" ...you never know. Could be important at the end that the PR section did such a great job.
Thanks lluuiiggii, most of the other ideas died when I realized that fences don't "fly" like roads do.
As the last step before releasing a stage I usually check the border objects. Don't like it when cars bend into rocks, peoples or lightpoles...
Regarding stage 4 and 5 of Tour do Rio this wasn't possible, cause the stage editor started to crash constantly when doing the final adjustments. Anyway, tour is fine so far and declared finished. The last stages will be added tomorrow or sunday to the stage database.
Nice to see you've also reproduced the Quinta da Boa Vista park in the end! You could also add some trees along the finish line road, but it already looks pretty nice. Also some of the "special" houses, like mannors (or something like that), although perhaps you've already done that But anyway, fantastic job, looking forward to testing it!
lluuiiggii wrote:
Nice to see you've also reproduced the Quinta da Boa Vista park in the end! You could also add some trees along the finish line road, but it already looks pretty nice. Also some of the "special" houses, like mannors (or something like that), although perhaps you've already done that But anyway, fantastic job, looking forward to testing it!
Thanks for the encouragement and feedback.
It's a bit painful to release stages knowing I can do better, but just decided not to touch the zcts-files of the last two stages again (they are evil ). They can be loaded, cities can be rebuilded, borders can be generated... and then you better hurry to export.
Placed only two manors (each one once) in Quinta da Boa Vista park.
Tried the alley thing two weeks ago between the last two road points. The one next to the last is before the park entrance on a junction in a large city area. Miraculously the alley trees ignored the city and growed out of the pavement which looks so weird that I decided to drop the idea.
Margh Norway wrote:
Havn't done much yet regarding stage 5 of Tour do Rio...
...but at least found a solution for a working (voies=4) Niteroi Bridge...
A (voie=1) road on each side with bridges and a "flying" (voie=4) road in the middle. Roadpoints need to be on land so the bridge have to be straight as usual.
). They can be loaded, cities can be rebuilded, borders can be generated... and then you better hurry to export. 
