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#81

Posted on 14-04-2012 21:10

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Schleck96 wrote:
Can someone upload the Descr file from the 2008 TDF variant?

Just make sure that the stage files are named the same as in the .descr file.

lluuiiggii attached the following file:

descr-file.rar [1.64kB / 138 Downloads]

Edited by lluuiiggii on 14-04-2012 21:10

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#82

Posted on 14-04-2012 21:29

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thanks

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#83

Posted on 21-04-2012 17:39

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Hey Roturn! I've just played your Ronde van Vlaanderen 2010, and I just want to say that there is a house on the top of the Muur which is IN the road. I thought that it did not look well, so I decided to say it.

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Posted on 21-04-2012 17:51

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lokytrew wrote:
Hey Roturn! I've just played your Ronde van Vlaanderen 2010, and I just want to say that there is a house on the top of the Muur which is IN the road. I thought that it did not look well, so I decided to say it.

I guess he knows it (mentioned a lot of times, and he must have played it several times as well)

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Posted on 22-04-2012 12:59

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Ok! It played quite awesome by the way. It was really realistic. (except for that house then

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Posted on 23-04-2012 11:12

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I think I already forgot about it again.

I think I started to "repair" it, but on the hill there was always something new then that was weird.

So I decided to have the hill percentages as realistic as possible. This had higher priority than this one house then. Not the best way to do it but well.

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Posted on 11-05-2012 14:31

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Have modified my Paris Roubaix.
All narrow roads are being changed to normal roads now. So the blocking issue in PCM11 can be solved.

I had no time to test it several times but the first try was pretty promising.

Also added the DL link into the first post: https://www.mediaf...czsxs4pniv

First test:

Spoiler

1	Tom Boonen	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	6h44'32
2	Alessandro Ballan	HTC - Highroad	s.t.
3	Fabian Cancellara	Leopard Trek	s.t.
4	Martijn Maaskant	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	+ 50
5	Juan Antonio Flecha	Sky ProCycling	s.t.
6	Heinrich Haussler	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
7	Sebastian Langeveld	Saxo Bank SunGard	+ 1'46
8	Johan Vansummeren	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
9	Nick Nuyens	Liquigas - Cannondale	s.t.
10	Matthew Hayman	Sky ProCycling	+ 2'37
11	Baden Cooke	Saxo Bank SunGard	s.t.
12	Sylvain Chavanel	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	s.t.
13	Stijn Devolder	Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team	s.t.
14	SÃ©bastien Hinault	AG2R La Mondiale	+ 4'41
15	Maarten Tjallingii	Rabobank Cycling Team	s.t.
16	Filippo Pozzato	Lampre - ISD	s.t.
17	Maxim Iglinskiy	Pro Team Astana	s.t.
18	Greg Van Avermaet	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	s.t.
19	Martin Elmiger	AG2R La Mondiale	s.t.
20	Bernhard Eisel	HTC - Highroad	s.t.
21	Manuel Quinziato	BMC Racing Team	s.t.
22	FrÃ©dÃ©ric Guesdon	FDJ	s.t.
23	Yohan Offredo	FDJ	s.t.
24	Lars Boom	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
25	Leif Hoste	Katusha Team	+ 5'40
26	Thor Hushovd	Katusha Team	+ 6'36
27	Marcus Burghardt	BMC Racing Team	s.t.
28	Ricardo Van der Velde	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
29	Matthew Goss	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
30	Lars Ytting Bak	HTC - Highroad	s.t.
31	Niki Terpstra	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	+ 9'39
32	Danilo Hondo	Lampre - ISD	+ 9'57
33	Luca Paolini	Katusha Team	s.t.
34	Steve Chainel	FDJ	s.t.
35	Sep Vanmarcke	Omega Pharma - Lotto	s.t.
36	GrÃ©gory Rast	Team RadioShack	s.t.
37	Lloyd Mondory	AG2R La Mondiale	s.t.
38	Fabio Felline	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
39	Kevin Van Impe	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	s.t.
40	SergueÃ¯ Ivanov	Katusha Team	s.t.
41	Aleksandr Kuschynski	Katusha Team	s.t.
42	John Degenkolb	HTC - Highroad	s.t.
43	Hayden Roulston	HTC - Highroad	s.t.
44	Stijn Vandenbergh	Katusha Team	s.t.
45	Dominique Rollin	FDJ	+ 11'03
46	Assan Bazayev	Pro Team Astana	s.t.
47	Maarten Wynants	Rabobank Cycling Team	s.t.
48	Daniel Oss	Liquigas - Cannondale	s.t.
49	Matteo Tosatto	Saxo Bank SunGard	s.t.
50	Edvald Boasson Hagen	Sky ProCycling	s.t.
51	Martin Mortensen	Leopard Trek	s.t.
52	Jeremy Hunt	Sky ProCycling	s.t.
53	Damien Gaudin	Team Europcar	s.t.
54	Geraint Thomas	Sky ProCycling	s.t.
55	Arnaud Coyot	Saur - Sojasun	s.t.
56	Joost Posthuma	Leopard Trek	s.t.
57	Peter Sagan	HTC - Highroad	s.t.
58	Marco Marcato	Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team	+ 13'11
59	Aleksejs Saramotins	Cofidis, le crÃ©dit en ligne	s.t.
60	Mitchell Docker	Skil - Shimano	s.t.
61	Grega Bole	Lampre - ISD	s.t.
62	Ã“scar Freire	Rabobank Cycling Team	s.t.
63	Gorik Gardeyn	Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team	s.t.
64	Robbie McEwen	Team RadioShack	s.t.
65	Daniele Bennati	Sky ProCycling	s.t.
66	Jimmy Engoulvent	Saur - Sojasun	s.t.
67	Lieuwe Westra	Rabobank Cycling Team	s.t.
68	Dimitriy Muravyev	Team RadioShack	s.t.
69	Vladimir Gusev	Katusha Team	s.t.
70	Bram Tankink	Rabobank Cycling Team	s.t.
71	David Veilleux	Team Europcar	s.t.
72	Taylor Phinney	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
73	Rick Flens	Rabobank Cycling Team	s.t.
74	Gabriel Rasch	Team Europcar	+ 14'45
75	Enrico Gasparotto	Pro Team Astana	s.t.
76	Klaas Lodewyck	Omega Pharma - Lotto	s.t.
77	Marcel Sieberg	Omega Pharma - Lotto	s.t.
78	Alexandre Pichot	Team Europcar	s.t.
79	Frederik Willems	Omega Pharma - Lotto	s.t.
80	David Boucher	Omega Pharma - Lotto	s.t.
81	Jens Debusschere	Omega Pharma - Lotto	s.t.
82	Vincent JÃ©rÃ´me	Team Europcar	s.t.
83	Kristof Goddaert	AG2R La Mondiale	s.t.
84	Gianni Meersman	FDJ	s.t.
85	Roger Hammond	Saxo Bank SunGard	s.t.
86	Ronan Van Zandbeek	Skil - Shimano	s.t.
87	Adrien Petit	Cofidis, le crÃ©dit en ligne	s.t.
88	Laurent Mangel	Saur - Sojasun	s.t.
89	Ian Stannard	Sky ProCycling	s.t.
90	Johnny Hoogerland	Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team	s.t.
91	Dennis Van Winden	Rabobank Cycling Team	s.t.
92	Kurt-Asle Arvesen	Sky ProCycling	s.t.
93	Andriy Grivko	Pro Team Astana	s.t.
94	Alexandre Vinokourov	Pro Team Astana	s.t.
95	SÃ©bastien Rosseler	Team RadioShack	s.t.
96	Paolo Longo Borghini	Liquigas - Cannondale	s.t.
97	Kasper Klostergaard	Saxo Bank SunGard	s.t.
98	Michael SchÃ¤r	BMC Racing Team	s.t.
99	Iljo Keisse	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	s.t.
100	Anthony Ravard	AG2R La Mondiale	s.t.
101	StÃ©phane PoulhiÃ¨s	Saur - Sojasun	s.t.
102	Tom Stamsnijder	Leopard Trek	s.t.
103	Simon Spilak	Lampre - ISD	s.t.
104	Tom Leezer	Rabobank Cycling Team	s.t.
105	Stuart O'Grady	Leopard Trek	s.t.
106	Mathieu Claude	Team Europcar	+ 16'26
107	Michael MÃ¸rkÃ¸v	Saxo Bank SunGard	s.t.
108	Kristof Vandewalle	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	s.t.
109	SÃ©bastien Minard	AG2R La Mondiale	s.t.
110	Alberto Ongarato	Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team	+ 17'43
111	Yuriy Krivtsov	AG2R La Mondiale	s.t.
112	Alex Rasmussen	Lampre - ISD	s.t.
113	Fabio Sabatini	Liquigas - Cannondale	+ 19'31
114	Bart De Clercq	Omega Pharma - Lotto	s.t.
115	Tristan Valentin	Cofidis, le crÃ©dit en ligne	s.t.
116	Yauheni Hutarovich	FDJ	s.t.
117	MickaÃ«l Delage	FDJ	s.t.
118	Imanol Erviti	Movistar Team	s.t.
119	Cyril Lemoine	Saur - Sojasun	s.t.
120	Tony Gallopin	Cofidis, le crÃ©dit en ligne	s.t.
121	Mauro Finetto	Liquigas - Cannondale	s.t.
122	Mirco Lorenzetto	Pro Team Astana	s.t.
123	Danilo Wyss	BMC Racing Team	s.t.
124	Rui Costa	Movistar Team	s.t.
125	Chad Beyer	BMC Racing Team	s.t.
126	Ignatas Konovalovas	Movistar Team	s.t.
127	Nikolai Trussov	Katusha Team	s.t.
128	Mathieu Perget	AG2R La Mondiale	s.t.
129	Nikolas Maes	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	s.t.
130	Pablo Lastras	Movistar Team	s.t.
131	Vicente ReynÃ¨s	Omega Pharma - Lotto	s.t.
132	Arnaud Labbe	Cofidis, le crÃ©dit en ligne	s.t.
133	Martin Velits	HTC - Highroad	s.t.
134	Bjorn Selander	Team RadioShack	s.t.
135	Dominic Klemme	Leopard Trek	+ 20'25
136	Robert Wagner	Leopard Trek	+ 21'18
137	Anders Lund	Leopard Trek	s.t.
138	Jean-Lou Paiani	Saur - Sojasun	+ 22'12
139	Denys Kostyuk	Lampre - ISD	s.t.
140	Mirko Selvaggi	Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team	s.t.
141	Frederik Veuchelen	Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team	+ 23'53
142	SÃ©bastien Turgot	Team Europcar	+ 25'12
143	JosÃ© Vicente GarcÃa Acosta	Movistar Team	s.t.
144	Markel Irizar	Team RadioShack	s.t.
145	Javier Francisco Aramendia	Euskaltel - Euskadi	s.t.
146	IÃ±aki Isasi	Euskaltel - Euskadi	+ 25'42
147	Wouter Mol	Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team	+ 26'22
148	Rony Martias	Saur - Sojasun	s.t.
149	Roy Curvers	Skil - Shimano	s.t.
150	Andrey Mizourov	Pro Team Astana	+ 28'03
151	Yannick Eijssen	BMC Racing Team	s.t.
152	Alan Marangoni	Liquigas - Cannondale	s.t.
153	Jonathan Bellis	Saxo Bank SunGard	s.t.
154	Yohann GÃ¨ne	Team Europcar	s.t.
155	Sam Bewley	Team RadioShack	s.t.
156	Maxim Gourov	Pro Team Astana	s.t.
157	Fang Han	Skil - Shimano	+ 29'59

Ignore the teams and strength. I tested it with my story DB from PCM10, where I am in the 4th season.

Feel free to test as well and post it here in the thread using the spoiler function.

#88

Posted on 11-05-2012 19:00

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Looks very nice roturn, thanks for taking the time to do it

Just tested it for the first time, I also liked the results. Biggest group in the Top 10 was made of 4 riders, 6th-10th. Boonen won it in a very dominant way, kinda like Cancellara in 2010.

Spoiler

1	Tom Boonen	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	6h53'00
2	Thor Hushovd	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	+ 52
3	Fabian Cancellara	Leopard Trek	+ 3'11
4	Juan Antonio Flecha	Sky ProCycling	s.t.
5	Matti Breschel	Rabobank Cycling Team	+ 4'55
6	BjÃ¶rn Leukemans	Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team	+ 5'31
7	Filippo Pozzato	Katusha Team	+ 6'17
8	Alessandro Ballan	BMC Racing Team	s.t.
9	Nick Nuyens	Saxo Bank SunGard	s.t.
10	Sylvain Chavanel	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	s.t.
11	FrÃ©dÃ©ric Guesdon	FDJ	+ 7'16
12	Roger Hammond	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	+ 9'07
13	Leif Hoste	Katusha Team	s.t.
14	Johan Vansummeren	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
15	Bernhard Eisel	HTC - Highroad	+ 9'43
16	Greg Van Avermaet	BMC Racing Team	s.t.
17	Lars Ytting Bak	HTC - Highroad	s.t.
18	Heinrich Haussler	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
19	Lars Boom	Rabobank Cycling Team	s.t.
20	Sebastian Langeveld	Rabobank Cycling Team	s.t.
21	Gert Steegmans	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	+ 11'38
22	Stijn Devolder	Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team	s.t.
23	Martin Elmiger	AG2R La Mondiale	s.t.
24	GrÃ©gory Rast	Team RadioShack	s.t.
25	Niki Terpstra	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	+ 14'53
26	Luca Paolini	Katusha Team	+ 16'58
27	Edvald Boasson Hagen	Sky ProCycling	s.t.
28	Marcus Burghardt	BMC Racing Team	s.t.
29	Sep Vanmarcke	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
30	Martijn Maaskant	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
31	Dominique Rollin	FDJ	s.t.
32	Gorik Gardeyn	Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team	s.t.
33	Maarten Tjallingii	Rabobank Cycling Team	s.t.
34	Marco Marcato	Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team	s.t.
35	Stuart O'Grady	Leopard Trek	s.t.
36	Tomas Vaitkus	Pro Team Astana	s.t.
37	Lieuwe Westra	Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team	s.t.
38	Maxim Iglinskiy	Pro Team Astana	s.t.
39	Kevin Van Impe	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	s.t.
40	Gustav Erik Larsson	Saxo Bank SunGard	s.t.
41	Frederik Willems	Omega Pharma - Lotto	+ 19'34
42	Matthew Hayman	Sky ProCycling	+ 21'20
43	Grega Bole	Lampre - ISD	s.t.
44	Robbie McEwen	Team RadioShack	s.t.
45	Kristof Goddaert	AG2R La Mondiale	s.t.
46	Adrien Petit	Cofidis, le crÃ©dit en ligne	s.t.
47	David Veilleux	Team Europcar	s.t.
48	Steve Chainel	FDJ	s.t.
49	Lloyd Mondory	AG2R La Mondiale	s.t.
50	Arnaud Coyot	Saur - Sojasun	s.t.

Note: 2011 DB.
142 riders finished the race. The pace was quite hard in the first cobbles, but after the bigger sections there was no breakaway and the peloton took it very easy. I was trying not to make the race hard, as to not modify much the results, but it was still easy when we got to Arenberg so I upped the pace there (playing with Leopard btw). With 50 or so kms came the attacks by Cancellara, Flecha and Boonen, who would go solo already now and leave both others behind, while a group of 14 riders I think was the next chasing one. Several kms later Hushovd joined the chasing duo. He and Flecha would attack on the next section of cobbles and leave Cancellara behind, which was already one of the last sections. The chasing group behind had also split into several smaller ones and individual riders. Cancellara eventually got back to Flecha and just beat him in the sprint for 3rd.

I will run a couple more tests when I have more time. Also re-play the old version to have results, number of cyclists left in main group with X kms to go, etc.. Another test which might be interesting is test with the man-game DB, or also with normal DBs, and do nothing with a control team. Hopefully the next tests will also give good results

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#89

Posted on 11-05-2012 19:47

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Here`s another test.
Man Game Stats

Spoiler

1	Tom Boonen	NestlÃ© Cycling Team	6h44'58
2	Marcus Burghardt	Bacardi - Ignis	+ 1'33
3	Fabian Cancellara	Carmeuse - Bouygues Telecom	s.t.
4	Sam Bewley	Milka - Vittel	+ 2'11
5	Nick Nuyens	Domina Vacanze	+ 2'53
6	Tom Veelers	Koppert Cycling Team	s.t.
7	Vladimir Gusev	Spyker Cars	s.t.
8	Alessandro Ballan	Sony Ericsson	s.t.
9	JÃ©rÃ´me Baugnies	Webeffect	s.t.
10	Geert Steurs	Festina - Conec	s.t.
11	Andrew Fenn	Wiggle - San Pellegrino	s.t.
12	Danny Summerhill	Wikipedia	s.t.
13	Michel Sibilla	NestlÃ© Cycling Team	s.t.
14	Fabien Taillefour	Koppert Cycling Team	s.t.
15	Enrico Franzoi	Pearl Adidas	+ 5'51
16	Gert Steegmans	Bacardi - Ignis	s.t.
17	Marcel Sieberg	Jack Wolfskin	s.t.
18	Pieter Jacobs	Carmeuse - Bouygues Telecom	s.t.
19	Kevin Fouquet	Sony Ericsson	s.t.
20	Geraint Thomas	Pendleton's Twicer	s.t.
21	Jempy Drucker	Team B&O	s.t.
22	Wim De Vocht	Pearl Adidas	s.t.
23	Sebastian Langeveld	Koppert Cycling Team	+ 8'59
24	Stijn Devolder	Spyker Cars	+ 10'22
25	Luke Rowe	Wiggle - San Pellegrino	s.t.
26	Stijn Joseph	Pearl Adidas	s.t.
27	Kevin Eeckhout	Wikipedia	s.t.
28	Jesus Del Nero	Santander	s.t.
29	Leonardo Duque	CafÃ© de Colombia	+ 10'56
30	Marc Machado	NestlÃ© Cycling Team	s.t.
31	Nicolas Portal	NestlÃ© Cycling Team	s.t.
32	ClÃ©ment Lhotellerie	Carmeuse - Bouygues Telecom	+ 12'13
33	Kenny De Haes	Pearl Adidas	s.t.
34	Steven Kruijswijk	Team B&O	s.t.
35	Francisco Ventoso	Santander	+ 14'10
36	Alexandre Aulas	Carmeuse - Bouygues Telecom	s.t.
37	Dmitri Muravjev	Sony Ericsson	s.t.
38	Steven Caethoven	Carmeuse - Bouygues Telecom	s.t.
39	Danilo Wyss	Domina Vacanze	s.t.
40	Laurens Ten Dam	Jack Wolfskin	s.t.
41	Sven Nooytens	Webeffect	s.t.
42	SÃ©bastien Joly	CafÃ© de Colombia	s.t.
43	Jurgen Roelandts	Carmeuse - Bouygues Telecom	s.t.
44	Niki Ã˜stergaard	Festina - Conec	s.t.
45	Koen De Kort	Jack Wolfskin	s.t.
46	Pieter Mertens	Pendleton's Twicer	s.t.
47	David Kopp	Proximus - Trek	s.t.
48	Tyler Farrar	Wikipedia	s.t.
49	Arman Kamyshev	Koppert Cycling Team	s.t.
50	Bas Giling	Jack Wolfskin	s.t.
51	SÃ©bastien Rosseler	Jack Wolfskin	s.t.
52	Joost Posthuma	Jack Wolfskin	s.t.
53	Evert Verbist	Milka - Vittel	s.t.
54	Timothy Vangheel	Wikipedia	s.t.
55	Michael SchÃ¤r	NestlÃ© Cycling Team	s.t.
56	Alexandr Nepomnyachsniy	Milka - Vittel	s.t.
57	Morten Reckweg	Team B&O	s.t.
58	Jonas Decouttere	Wikipedia	s.t.
59	Martin Mortensen	Sony Ericsson	+ 15'47
60	David Deroo	Domina Vacanze	+ 16'14
61	Michael Van Stayen	Bacardi - Ignis	+ 17'07
62	Klaas Sys	Jack Wolfskin	s.t.
63	Jimmy Casper	Wikipedia	s.t.
64	Mathieu Heijboer	Bacardi - Ignis	+ 18'03
65	Kristof Goddaert	Festina - Conec	+ 18'26
66	Wouter Weylandt	Carmeuse - Bouygues Telecom	+ 18'49
67	Thomas De Gendt	Milka - Vittel	+ 19'31
68	Yoann Offredo	Pearl Adidas	s.t.
69	Ã“scar Guerao	Santander	s.t.
70	Nolan Hoffman	NestlÃ© Cycling Team	s.t.
71	Jukka Vastaranta	Pearl Adidas	s.t.
72	Michael Reihs	Sony Ericsson	s.t.
73	Tom Leezer	Pearl Adidas	s.t.
74	Ian Bibby	Wiggle - San Pellegrino	s.t.
75	Daniel Allonca	Santander	s.t.
76	Rasmus Guldhammer	Team B&O	s.t.
77	Juan Abenhamar Gallego Martin	Santander	s.t.
78	Aleksandr Kuschynski	Wiggle - San Pellegrino	s.t.
79	Aidis Kruopis	Bacardi - Ignis	s.t.
80	Lars Tommersen	Proximus - Trek	s.t.
81	Remy Bourdouxhe	Webeffect	s.t.
82	Thomas Riber-Sellebjerg	Team B&O	+ 20'44
83	David Vitoria	NestlÃ© Cycling Team	s.t.
84	Zdenek Stybar	Milka - Vittel	s.t.
85	Simas Kondrotas	Bacardi - Ignis	s.t.
86	KÃ©vin Lalouette	UBS - La Pierre	+ 22'40
87	Kristoffer Nielsen	Team B&O	s.t.
88	BjÃ¶rn SchrÃ¶der	Domina Vacanze	s.t.
89	Jay McCarthy	Koppert Cycling Team	s.t.
90	Dan Holloway	Festina - Conec	+ 23'37
91	Igor Abakoumov	Bacardi - Ignis	s.t.
92	Mauro Da Dalto	Domina Vacanze	+ 24'03
93	Oscar Freire	Koppert Cycling Team	s.t.
94	Kris Boeckmans	Webeffect	s.t.
95	Leopold KÃ¶nig	Milka - Vittel	s.t.
96	Hassen Ben Nasser	Proximus - Trek	+ 25'03
97	Ben Curfs	Carmeuse - Bouygues Telecom	+ 25'48
98	Joren Claes	Proximus - Trek	+ 26'36
99	Romain Zingle	Webeffect	+ 27'04
100	Yannick Stoltz	Proximus - Trek	+ 28'07
101	Anthony Delaplace	Milka - Vittel	s.t.
102	Martin Pedersen	Spyker Cars	+ 29'11
103	Romain Vanderbiest	Pearl Adidas	s.t.
104	Freddy Johansson	Sony Ericsson	s.t.

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Posted on 11-05-2012 19:49

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Sounds great. I'll give it a try later too.

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#91

Posted on 13-05-2012 00:04

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Ran two more tests: first with a control team (Euskaltel

), another with a team with small prospects (Lampre). Unfortunately I've just discovered that only the first tests results were exported. Nevertheless I wrote down the number of riders in the main group at some points:

Euskaltel test:
Way too easy pace, still 160! riders with 60 kms to go
Down to 60 riders with 50 kms left (split)
Another split leaving 40 riders with 40 kms left
Then Cancellara goes solo, Hushovd and Ballan join, soon 2 more riders join, and just into the velodrome the second group made of 5 riders join, making it a 10 rider-sprint, won by Hushovd. 162 riders finished in time.

Spoiler

1	Thor Hushovd	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	6h44'32
2	Fabian Cancellara	Leopard Trek	s.t.
3	Tom Boonen	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	s.t.
4	Matti Breschel	Rabobank Cycling Team	s.t.
5	Juan Antonio Flecha	Sky ProCycling	s.t.
6	Alessandro Ballan	BMC Racing Team	s.t.
7	Filippo Pozzato	Katusha Team	s.t.
8	Sebastian Langeveld	Rabobank Cycling Team	+ 47
9	BjÃ¶rn Leukemans	Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team	s.t.
10	Johan Vansummeren	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
11	Nick Nuyens	Saxo Bank SunGard	+ 2'53
12	Leif Hoste	Katusha Team	+ 3'14
13	Heinrich Haussler	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	+ 3'36
14	Stuart O'Grady	Leopard Trek	s.t.
15	Roger Hammond	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
16	Sylvain Chavanel	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	s.t.
17	SÃ©bastien Hinault	AG2R La Mondiale	s.t.
18	Niki Terpstra	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	s.t.
19	Lars Ytting Bak	HTC - Highroad	+ 4'45
20	Lloyd Mondory	AG2R La Mondiale	+ 5'52
21	Bernhard Eisel	HTC - Highroad	s.t.
22	FrÃ©dÃ©ric Guesdon	FDJ	s.t.
23	Greg Van Avermaet	BMC Racing Team	+ 8'29
24	Daniele Bennati	Leopard Trek	+ 8'44
25	Martijn Maaskant	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
26	Steve Chainel	FDJ	s.t.
27	Dominique Rollin	FDJ	s.t.
28	Maxim Iglinskiy	Pro Team Astana	+ 9'27
29	Kevin Van Impe	QuickÂ·Step Cycling Team	+ 10'13
30	Maarten Wynants	Rabobank Cycling Team	+ 11'42
31	Hayden Roulston	HTC - Highroad	s.t.
32	AndrÃ© Greipel	Omega Pharma - Lotto	s.t.
33	Maarten Tjallingii	Rabobank Cycling Team	s.t.
34	Yohan Offredo	FDJ	s.t.
35	Grega Bole	Lampre - ISD	s.t.
36	Edvald Boasson Hagen	Sky ProCycling	s.t.
37	Bert Grabsch	HTC - Highroad	s.t.
38	David Millar	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.
39	George Hincapie	BMC Racing Team	s.t.
40	Andreas Klier	Team Garmin - CervÃ©lo	s.t.

Lampre test:
This time a harder pace, 67 riders left with 100 kms to go
Down to 41 riders with 50 kms left, and 34 riders with 40 kms to go
Didn't follow the moves on the front and results weren't exported, all I know is that the maximum number of riders in front group was 5 (some time after the finish I scrolled all groups to the front and E1 said 5, but they could have joined after the finish). Only 71 riders finished the race.

These two results were not as promising as the initial ones, but then again the narrow-roads version usually doesn't give results too different from these.

Btw, is it just me or for the others in the post-race newspaper it appears XRider wins the \"Hell of the North\" (with these \ \ )?

Edit: btw, would there be any chance that you could re-export the race including the Roubaix-specific commentaries (beginning, Troisvilles, Carrefour de l'Arbre and velodrome)? It's very nice to hear them

Edited by lluuiiggii on 13-05-2012 04:34

#92

Posted on 13-05-2012 12:21

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lluuiiggii wrote:
Edit: btw, would there be any chance that you could re-export the race including the Roubaix-specific commentaries (beginning, Troisvilles, Carrefour de l'Arbre and velodrome)? It's very nice to hear them

I might give it a go later. Probably next weekend where I have 4 days off in a row. Am not that used into the commentary stuff but should be able to get into it.

The results are not that much different to the narrow roads indeed. But there is one big advantage imo. With the narrow roads there always have been 4-5 riders with ~78+ stats, that got blocked by weaker helpers, who did the pace before or just protected their leaders. So some of the big favorites had no chance to perform on their level.
With the normal roads all big names are ahead except of some with a bad form, bad daily form or the riders with crashes or punctures.

Johan92

#93

Posted on 13-05-2012 12:41

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I don't like the narrow roads in normal stages, unless they are really needed because of something special with the road. What I really hate is all these variants with narrow roads spread all over the place, that really ruins the race. However in classics like Roubaix, Vlaanderen etc I think they are needed. Because the narrow roads are a big factor irl. The classics is supposed to be messy and tricky. So the narrow roads in the classics is a part of the charm playing those races. But keep them out of normal road stages indeed.

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In normal stages I generally keep them out. Except for my first 2-3 races I have ever created.

In these classics I have two versions now. One with narrow and one without. I also like the charm of it as it looks sometimes weird to see that wide roads in P-R.
But the results look similar and sometimes even better.

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Posted on 13-05-2012 15:21

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I agree with that. However, if using narrow roads means we'll see 6, 8 rider groups sprints at the end of Roubaix more often than using normal roads, I'd surely go for the normal roads. So far I've seen 5 tests in this thread, 3 gave good results, 1 'normal' and 1 not really good. The 'messy' classics imo only appeared with PCM 11 and the solid rider model. In PCM 09 for instance, they weren't messy and the roads were wide (weird looking). However I'd surely go for PCM 09 gameplay of cobble classics (and classics in general).

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Posted on 31-07-2012 19:59

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Both fantasy WC`s now also playable for PCM11. Unfortunately no chance to "convert" the new Tokio one for PCM11 as I created this race with the new editor accidently.

WC/NC Spain Saragoza

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WC/NC Belgium Geraardsbergen

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