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Armstrong stops fighting doping charges - USADA wants him banned and stripped for titles
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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 23-10-2012 20:00
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Even now I believe in his innocence
i think that tells us exactly what Indurain's view is |
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| Rin |
Posted on 23-10-2012 20:09
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Tyler Hamilton will be soon (24 November I guess) at the German show "Aktuelles Sportstudio" which is normally a hour show about sports with a "star" guest (normally every weekend a german football pro) and so on.. roturn etc. here will know it 
They normally also allow fans to ask questions over the internet..
So has anyone some questions?
Maybe one of them gets through As I guess they have no idea about cycling so maybe more questions of the fans will get through.
Maybe I should send them questions about Wiggins or that picture of Wiggins with a patch which is normally violating the no needle policy? Or what Wiggins potentially could have done here? Or some questions of yours?
Edited by Rin on 23-10-2012 20:10
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 23-10-2012 21:23
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How many clean pro riders can he name, if any, and... name them. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 23-10-2012 21:24
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Ask this:
Do you think Ulrich should get Lance's titles?  |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 23-10-2012 21:40
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Just wondering, except for the 7 Tours, what other results did he lose? Up through his career he's had some good results in one of the Ardennes classics (LBL?) and a WC-gold (93?), but has there been anything else?
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 23-10-2012 21:46
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cactus-jack wrote:
Just wondering, except for the 7 Tours, what other results did he lose? Up through his career he's had some good results in one of the Ardennes classics (LBL?) and a WC-gold (93?), but has there been anything else?
He actually only loses his results from 1998-afterwards. Thus he's still a world champion (quite ironic that the guy "who should be forgotten" according to the UCI still has his name on the palmares of basically the only road cycling race UCI organizes  ). As for what did he lose, wikipedia already did the job
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_..._Armstrong
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 23-10-2012 21:54
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Thanks, I actually checked out that site, but I didn't notice that you could open the spoiler.
It's funny to think that in all those years the only major races he won was the TdF and Dauphine.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| kumazan |
Posted on 23-10-2012 21:57
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cactus-jack wrote:
It's funny to think that in all those years the only major races he won was the TdF and Dauphine.
And Suisse.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 23-10-2012 21:59
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Aquarius wrote:
Indurain believes Armstrong is innocent, and Valverde finds the sanction unfair and believes cycling shouldn't look backwards.
When are they going to give cyclists a dope that grows brains ?
S.Sanchez also says Armstrong is treated unfair. Seriously, what's unfair about this. He cheated so he must pay. That's the consequence when you get caught.
This and the stuff Aquarius mentioned, once again, shows the general attitude towards doping in Spain (at least when it involves cycling). Why do they keep sticking up for dopers.  |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 23-10-2012 22:00
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Wilier wrote:
This and the stuff Aquarius mentioned, once again, shows the general attitude towards doping in Spain (at least when it involves cycling). Why do they keep sticking up for dopers.
Because that's what our media does.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 23-10-2012 22:05
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kumazan wrote:
cactus-jack wrote:
It's funny to think that in all those years the only major races he won was the TdF and Dauphine.
And Suisse.
Only because those two races are pre-Tour races.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 24-10-2012 03:50
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Deadpool wrote:
Eden95 wrote:
I have been told at least 4 times by different people today that Armstrong was the cleanest cyclist ever and that he never failed a drug test. Goes to show what people who know nothing about cycling think.
Einaym lachem vlo yiru...
And yes, I am too lazy to use the virtual Hebrew keyboard...
I have no idea what that says.
On another note, it's great to turn on the TV and see Lance slandered all over the news. Its bad for the image of cycling, yes, but he undoubtedly deserves it, and makes me extremely happy to see his name wiped from the record books.
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| solano |
Posted on 24-10-2012 08:16
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I see that 2 of Armstrong's remaining wins are in the Thrift Drug Classic. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 24-10-2012 08:54
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But if you think about it, it's very logical.
How the hell can someone win the Tour 7 times? It's just impossible, especially in these days. Look at Contador, he's damn good, but he loses, too. (please don't start a discussion about Contador now, it's just an example ) |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 24-10-2012 09:05
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Wow, Wikipedia really did their work, even in the Tour pages etc, he's already gone. That's fast! |
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| Flair |
Posted on 24-10-2012 10:09
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Indurain, sanchez etc its all the same thing.
Their problem is that Lance was caught due to people saying what happened rather then failed testss. This worries alot of people that have doped because they consider they have got awway with it. Now thats not the case. Its all people talkking in self interest and ironiccally making clear to people whho cheats annd who doesnnt.
Its safe to say any cyclist that is still Pro-Lance in a 'he didnt dope' sense is clearly a doper themselves. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 24-10-2012 10:13
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Flair wrote:
Their problem is that Lance was caught due to people saying what happened rather then failed testss. This worries alot of people that have doped because they consider they have got awway with it. Now thats not the case. Its all people talkking in self interest and ironiccally making clear to people whho cheats annd who doesnnt.
That's not the problem. Certainly not for Indurain who is very well protected by the SOL. The problem is that for them, as it is for many dopers, it's not cheating if you don't get caught.
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| Flair |
Posted on 24-10-2012 10:36
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kumazan wrote:
Flair wrote:
Their problem is that Lance was caught due to people saying what happened rather then failed testss. This worries alot of people that have doped because they consider they have got awway with it. Now thats not the case. Its all people talkking in self interest and ironiccally making clear to people whho cheats annd who doesnnt.
That's not the problem. Certainly not for Indurain who is very well protected by the SOL. The problem is that for them, as it is for many dopers, it's not cheating if you don't get caught.
Yeah, but SOL is depeendant on country and other things. Indurain may be safe, but anyone still cycling or recently in cycling will have sworn under oath at some point that they didnt dope and that (as proved in Lance's case) is enough to overturn the SOL.
Also, just because they cant be officially reprimanded doesnt mean its of no effect. Ie, I knew little of inddurain till I recently got more into cycling. People are generally praising of him and vieww him in a good light. I went along with the concencus.
I now consider him a cheating doping moron who is no better then Lance. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 24-10-2012 10:43
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Flair wrote:
I now consider him a cheating doping moron who is no better then Lance.
I am not a big fan of Indurain, but i resiously doubt there ever has been such a person like Armstrong. Blackmailing, bribing and his absolute conviction about own superiority and innocence is unmatched imo...
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 24-10-2012 10:46
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True, Lance is a master in his craft: cheating!
The fact that he still has so many people believing his innocence is amazing. While everyone knows and admits all the old-times used some stuff |
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