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| marble |
Posted on 06-02-2012 16:03
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They should've done this much sooner, it should never take this long. That's the big problem here.
Rujano and Nibali gets their stages 9 months late, not to mention Scarponi's GC win with Nibali and Gadret on the podium.
Scarponi also now gets Volta a Catalunya and a stage.
Porte the Castilla y Leon ITT.
Coppel a stage and overall of Vuelta Murcia and Menchov a stage.
All of that could've been avoided.
Then there's the 2010 Tour results where he luckily had no stage wins.
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| johannes-w |
Posted on 06-02-2012 16:15
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
He rode a clean Giro, but his victory will be taken from ? What a stupid rules...
Anyway looking at newspapers website, this is going to hit cycling very bad. Even as Merckx said : “It’s a sad day for Alberto Contador; it's a sad day for cycling,” he told the Eurosport cameras. “I think people want to kill off cycling.
P.S. Please don't respond with comments "he deserved it"  I know.
He was not allowed to ride technically in that time in the light of the new verdict, so they must strip it from him,but i find it stupid too. Even more sad is that fact, that many people here think it is a "small" punishment.
but he somehow benefits from that kind of punishment, because normally you can not race for 2 whole years and after that you need a much longer time to get back on the level from before the ban - he "only" has to sit out for a few months so it will not be so hard to get back... |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 06-02-2012 16:23
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One thing I need to get clear - I've read he'd be back in 2013, and in other sites, I've read later this year. Which one is it?? |
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| mgcastro |
Posted on 06-02-2012 16:24
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We have seen what the guy has done on a bike, so at least we know he will keep producing fireworks post-ban.
I'm a big fan of AC, but rules are rules. I think he's mentally strong enough to learn from this and make a triumphant return.
Pretty sure this is healthy for the sport.
And lol at the haters.
Manuel
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 06-02-2012 16:25
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FreitasPCM wrote:
One thing I need to get clear - I've read he'd be back in 2013, and in other sites, I've read later this year. Which one is it??
Most likely on August 5th.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 06-02-2012 16:25
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Posted on 06-02-2012 16:49
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Well, I didn't expect anything different. Contador was wrong, now he has to suffer. Seems legit.
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 06-02-2012 16:53
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To Contador fans:
I had the same feeling when Valverde was banned, he has never tested positive in a doping test but yet was still banned. He was banned for intention for 2 years which I thought was harsh, but right now you just need to get on with it, Contador will be back in 6 months.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 06-02-2012 17:23
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As far as I care, Scarponi is not a Giro winner and Andy Schleck is not a Tour winner.
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| Lachi |
Posted on 06-02-2012 17:35
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issoisso wrote:
As far as I care, Scarponi is not a Giro winner and Andy Schleck is not a Tour winner. Andy, at least, will always be second best, even if all other cyclists drop from their bikes.
Edit: One of the bigger swiss newspapers wrote that "the CAS saw an intention of doing doping". I really wonder why newspapers are allowed to print every shit they want.
Edited by Lachi on 06-02-2012 17:52
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Posted on 06-02-2012 17:49
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Lachi wrote:
issoisso wrote:
As far as I care, Scarponi is not a Giro winner and Andy Schleck is not a Tour winner. Andy, at least, will always be second best, even if all other cyclists drop from their bikes.
I can see it now. Every climber in the world banned, and Andy finishing 2nd in the Tour behind JJ Rojas in a "I FINALLY WON SOMETHING" t-shirt
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 06-02-2012 18:01
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issoisso wrote:
Lachi wrote:
issoisso wrote:
As far as I care, Scarponi is not a Giro winner and Andy Schleck is not a Tour winner. Andy, at least, will always be second best, even if all other cyclists drop from their bikes.
I can see it now. Every climber in the world banned, and Andy finishing 2nd in the Tour behind JJ Rojas in a "I FINALLY WON SOMETHING" t-shirt
Poor Andy xD
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| CLURPR |
Posted on 06-02-2012 18:09
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Nice world of double standarts we live in, world champion has won his title with banned helmet and he is a hero. Then the best rider of a decade get caught with the amount of substance that gives him no advantage and he is witchhunted. Nice...you must be proud guys.
'Double Standards'? I think that doping is a lot worse than having a banned helmet and I'm not just saying that because I'm British. Contador deserves his ban and it will make for an interesting TDF this year. |
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| pcm2009fan |
Posted on 06-02-2012 18:10
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Love Alberto but agree with the ban
Very very annoyed by the form of the ban though, stripping him of wins that to our knowledge are perfectly legitimate.
And the excuse that he "shouldn't have been racing anyway" is stupid - it's not Alberto's fault that they can't sort out a case before he races again.. especially over the year+ that he has been racing.
At the end of the day the court can make the best and fairest decision as to wether he doped or not, but this backdating causes unfair disruption to Alberto's career, race results, as well as to the cycling community as a whole. 
Edited by pcm2009fan on 06-02-2012 18:12
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 06-02-2012 18:22
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I don't think Cavendish' helmet is such a big deal as Contador's 'steak'. But let's not get offtopic.
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Posted on 06-02-2012 18:50
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Some funny comments around here. People should think with their minds instead of their hearts, pride, or whatever. That'd make more sense.
What makes a star or a champion ? Victories, mostly. Achievements in a more general way. Get rid of Contador and... many more have won races.
Don't overlook seconds because they were beaten by a cheater.
It's been a long time so he shouldn't be banned ? Well, though Contador (and his back up team of lawyers) wasn't the only one to do so, how many time has the decision been appealed ?
He wins races, so he shouldn't be banned ? Right. Doping is bad, but when it makes you win races.
His rivals cheat as much ? Maybe (probable even), but one's cheating doesn't make it ok for the other one's cheating. And what of the honest ones ? Oh well, who cares about them, isn't it ?
Set the hematocrit rate at a defined threshold ? That was case pre epo-test. Back in 1997, till 2000. Wasn't really fair actually... Natural levels of heamtocrits fluctuate a lot in a sample of population. From 40 to ... 52 for men. Some could take loads of EPO, some would be outside the law without it. Set it at 55 ? Get aspirin, ambulances, and coroners ready...
He didn't need it, he'd still win ? Right, he won for 17 seconds with it... His level, would he be genuinely clean, is just speculation. From a grupetto rider to a top 5 contender at best. We can't say, we can't know.
Not much to add to what Crue True said about the case itself.
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Posted on 06-02-2012 19:01
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Is this ban gonna take out the emotion from the TDF?
Will this ban give Andy Schleck the opurtunity that he wants?
And i think the ban is a little bit exagerated, 2 years is too many, i think 6 months to 1 year would be better and still punish Contador for his mistake. |
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 06-02-2012 19:08
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Miguel98 wrote:
Is this ban gonna take out the emotion from the TDF?
Will this ban give Andy Schleck the opurtunity that he wants?
And i think the ban is a little bit exagerated, 2 years is too many, i think 6 months to 1 year would be better and still punish Contador for his mistake.
Don't forget Evans! Though I doubt he will be as strong as last year, I mean, he is getting older...
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Posted on 06-02-2012 19:10
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Miguel98 wrote:
Is this ban gonna take out the emotion from the TDF?
Will this ban give Andy Schleck the opurtunity that he wants?
And i think the ban is a little bit exagerated, 2 years is too many, i think 6 months to 1 year would be better and still punish Contador for his mistake.
At this stage, the ban needed to be two years, or else it wouldnt have been a ban at all.
Thats the sort of thing that only the French federation would do to their track cyclists!
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Posted on 06-02-2012 19:13
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Miguel98 wrote:
Will this ban give Andy Schleck the opurtunity that he wants?
No, the opportunity Schleck wanted already came to him in 2011.. the Tour 2012 has too many TT kms for him.
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