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2015 Giro d'Italia - Week Two (16th - 23rd May)
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 23-05-2015 16:26
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Strydz wrote:
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Wiggo did it in 2012, Froome in 2013 and they tried to do it with Porte in 2015. Being dominant across the whole season must have taken its toil, obviously along with the crashes, timelosses etc. Seems like he just isnt made for it. If he still is in it, I expect a try on Daone or Mortirolo the following days, but I really doubt it....
Best thing for Porte to do with his future is leave Sky, I think a different environment with a team that actually is tactically strong (which sky isn't) would do him well, aim at 1 week stage races and go into GT's with less pressure
Yeah like Orica or BMC? Though they're not the best tactically, too, but they should be nice environments for him. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 23-05-2015 16:30
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Ian Butler wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Wiggo did it in 2012, Froome in 2013 and they tried to do it with Porte in 2015. Being dominant across the whole season must have taken its toil, obviously along with the crashes, timelosses etc. Seems like he just isnt made for it. If he still is in it, I expect a try on Daone or Mortirolo the following days, but I really doubt it....
Best thing for Porte to do with his future is leave Sky, I think a different environment with a team that actually is tactically strong (which sky isn't) would do him well, aim at 1 week stage races and go into GT's with less pressure
Yeah like Orica or BMC? Though they're not the best tactically, too, but they should be nice environments for him.
Would be great teams IMO. Orica obviously have the Yates brothers, but I dont expect any big GC-results of them in TdF this year - maybe next, but would also be a bit of a stretch considering the GC-talent atm. BMC have Van Garderen, but Im not really sold on him - sometimes, he is great, but he isnt exactly consistent.. |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 23-05-2015 16:38
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Ian Butler wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Wiggo did it in 2012, Froome in 2013 and they tried to do it with Porte in 2015. Being dominant across the whole season must have taken its toil, obviously along with the crashes, timelosses etc. Seems like he just isnt made for it. If he still is in it, I expect a try on Daone or Mortirolo the following days, but I really doubt it....
Best thing for Porte to do with his future is leave Sky, I think a different environment with a team that actually is tactically strong (which sky isn't) would do him well, aim at 1 week stage races and go into GT's with less pressure
Yeah like Orica or BMC? Though they're not the best tactically, too, but they should be nice environments for him.
I actually think Orica are pretty good tactically and they do have a good team environment without the BS like the campervan, BMC are okay but don't think that would be the best move but if Van Garderan has a bad Tour this year then that changes things a little bit. I am almost certain he leaves Sky at the end of this season
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 23-05-2015 16:39
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Great TT from VDB, it seems he improved massively on this area. Let's see how he takes the longer mountains, but normaly he can take a 3rd week better then Amador and Uran. Time for his first (confirmed) GC podium? Though it's ll really really close still.
Contador superb. Only Aru is a slight thread and he looked toast as well. Maybe he can already look forward to TDF and just follow Aru.
And to bad for Vandewalle, he could've been close here.
Edited by Ollfardh on 23-05-2015 16:41
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| Shonak |
Posted on 23-05-2015 16:47
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Strydz wrote:
Are you okay Shonak or have you passed out with excitement? 
I actually fell asleep afterwards, watching Giro Extra 
Contador's ride was incredible but I expected from him to do well here in this TT already at the start of second week. Aru is still a threat though, if Astana use their climbing prowess well it can become very dangerous. But Contador is an one-man army and he should be able to control this 2 minute lead. What worries me: Contador has already crashed twice in this Giro so that's another thing he'll have to pay attention to in third week and avoid at all cost. I hope he takes stage win tomorrow and can then just follow wheels.
So, who can threat Uran Uran for third place? Don't think Amador will be up to holding third in last week at all, but maybe VDB2.0 gets some climbing strength of old and I think König could actually make a late surge for the podium now that SKY will ride for him. I hope Landa will keep his stunning form of first week and that he makes the best ouf of today's loss. Podium is still within reach, I'm sure he'll attack now and then.
Edited by Shonak on 23-05-2015 16:48
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| GILA_JR |
Posted on 23-05-2015 16:49
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Kinda expected what happened today with Contador, amazing performance, I kinda feel bad for Aru, he is still young but he is a great rider. I wanted it to be more close to see more attacks on the next stages of mountain although there will be a huge fight for the podium i think ( I don´t expect a fight for the 1st position to be honest after what happened today), pretty interesting Giro overall, I´m liking it.
I wish Porte performed better though, he is doing terribly this Giro.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 23-05-2015 17:49
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But if Porte leaves Sky, he will have to ride without the advantages of their marginal gains.
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 23-05-2015 17:53
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Amazing TT from Bertie. Every day I'm more convinced the dislocated shoulder story was a massive bluff. Good TT from VDB and dissapointing from Uran and very dissapointing Cataldo. He used to be very good in TT |
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 23-05-2015 20:42
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Stromeon wrote:
Stage honours depends on who is prepared to go full out for the win - someone like Kiryienka would be a decent shout if they went for it but I'm not sure.
Was out this afternoon so missed the stage - I come back home and look at the results... Such a crazy TT; some major WTF moments everywhere: Kruijswijk top 5 in a TT, Porte slower than Nieve (like literally what even is this), a random Bulgarian dude I've never heard of beating Uran, Betancur > Zakarin in the battle of awesomeness. I mean we've seen it all now!
Really glad that Kiryienka was able to take the win (have I mentioned before that he was a beast somewhere? Yes? Indeed he is just pure 100% beast), today was clearly a day for the strong men and who stronger than he? Such a shame he rides for Sky.
Also I officially <3 Amador. This guy can win Giro mountain stages, top 10 Gent Wevelgem, beat Cancellara in prologues and he was 5th in that murderous TT up the Flumserberg in Switzerland 2 years ago, despite spending most of his time as a loyal Movistar domestique. Is there anything this guy can't do when given the opportunity?
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 23-05-2015 21:43
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Bertie will mock them when real mountains starting..
only opponent will be Astana team..specially Landa.
and please stop that cliche that Porte is not GT rider..he can be. I remember when he waited Froome at the mounatins.
It is just un natural that Paris-Nice ..march/ april top form rider can last also Giro 3 weeks.
Also Giro weather..beside so called hi tech training/ equipment. Sky should start train also in rain.
Edited by Guido Mukk on 23-05-2015 21:50
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 23-05-2015 21:49
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I'm saying it now. I'm in love with this Giro. For me, it's the best GT I've ever seen, honest.
Second best was the awesome Vuelta fight between Valverde, Rodriguez and Contador, of course! |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 23-05-2015 21:52
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Ian Butler wrote:
I'm saying it now. I'm in love with this Giro. For me, it's the best GT I've ever seen, honest.
Second best was the awesome Vuelta fight between Valverde, Rodriguez and Contador, of course!
my vote for that ..Giro has always been my favorite.. even at boring years. This GT has something special |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 23-05-2015 22:04
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Stromeon wrote:
a random Bulgarian dude I've never heard of beating Uran,
Oh, you must heard of the Bulgarian TT beast that is Nikolay Mihaylov
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 23-05-2015 22:11
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Stromeon wrote:
a random Bulgarian dude I've never heard of beating Uran,
Oh, you must heard of the Bulgarian TT beast that is Nikolay Mihaylov
*Frantically checks through HQ of Boeing/Bulgaria/Vivacom/Blackfish/that grey jersey with the fish on it (I mean what is that thing?)/Lululemon/Doge/whatever the team's called I don't even have a clue these days to see what you're on about*
Impressively he seems to have managed to have DNF'd 7 consecutive races earlier this season. 
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 23-05-2015 22:15
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GRANDE AMOREEEEEE |
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Posted on 23-05-2015 23:56
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
GRANDE AMOREEEEEE
nice one
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| Squire |
Posted on 24-05-2015 00:39
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Strydz wrote:
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Porte always finds a way to avoid the podium, and in that regard he's started well.
I'm confused by this statement, what do you mean by it? The guy wins races or are you talking about GT's? If that's the case this it's an even more confusing statement. He has led a team in a GT once, in last years TDF whilst out of condition and in horrible form after his team leader dropped out of the race 5 stages in. I'm no Porte fan but think this is a bit harsh
My point was that he's no GT rider. He's 30 and has zero results from GTs (the 7th with a 12 min headstart was not impressive). He's a luxury variant of Simon Spilak.
On today's stage, I agree with Oleg Tinkov, why is anyone surprised? Contador is in another league to these guys.
I'm very surprised by Kruijswijk and Felline's performances, and to some extent Hesjedal and VDB2, but we know the latter recovers well. The last week will be interesting for the minor places. Landa has a decent shot on the podium with the other contenders messing up today, and I think Aru is certain for 2nd now. Will be interesting to see how Uran recovers from today, he was far below expectations. Now I want to see Amador cling on to that top5! 
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| Luki_90 |
Posted on 24-05-2015 01:05
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Contador show his best side today. I will be very,very dissapointed if he lose his jersey. He's a main favourite right now , but.... bad things happened |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 24-05-2015 02:38
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Squire wrote:
My point was that he's no GT rider. He's 30 and has zero results from GTs (the 7th with a 12 min headstart was not impressive). He's a luxury variant of Simon Spilak.
On today's stage, I agree with Oleg Tinkov, why is anyone surprised? Contador is in another league to these guys.
I'm very surprised by Kruijswijk and Felline's performances, and to some extent Hesjedal and VDB2, but we know the latter recovers well. The last week will be interesting for the minor places. Landa has a decent shot on the podium with the other contenders messing up today, and I think Aru is certain for 2nd now. Will be interesting to see how Uran recovers from today, he was far below expectations. Now I want to see Amador cling on to that top5!
I fully understand your point with Porte but the only thing I will will say is that I would like to see what he could do on another team, Sky are good on the sport science side of the sport but horrible on the rest. I think he could win possibly when a GT but not with Sky and also not one with all the big GT contenders competing in top shape.
Kruiswijk has been a pleasant surprise and Lotto Jumbo are lucky he is here, hopefully he can get out on the attack in the final week and bag a stage win or even have a go at the KOM jersey, not surprised with Felline's effort, he is good against the clock and also the earlier guys had the better conditions yesterday so that also helped.
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