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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 16-03-2021 22:48
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2 main teams, 1 u23-Team missing. Bikex and I are in contact with the people, so that I hope we're finished tomorrow. Also if you didn't send in focus races yet the deadline will be as soon as the season starts without a further notice, so get that stuff in asap as well if you don't want to have random goals selected for you.
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| OZrocker |
Posted on 17-03-2021 14:36
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Main team jersey attached below, any feedback is welcome. I will try to have WC and NCs done by the end of the week.
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| Scatmaster111 |
Posted on 17-03-2021 15:35
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Croatia14 wrote:
2 main teams, 1 u23-Team missing. Bikex and I are in contact with the people, so that I hope we're finished tomorrow. Also if you didn't send in focus races yet the deadline will be as soon as the season starts without a further notice, so get that stuff in asap as well if you don't want to have random goals selected for you.
Do we have a list of who's sent in focus races? I'm pretty sure I sent mine but just want to make sure.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 17-03-2021 15:38
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Scatmaster111 wrote:
Croatia14 wrote:
2 main teams, 1 u23-Team missing. Bikex and I are in contact with the people, so that I hope we're finished tomorrow. Also if you didn't send in focus races yet the deadline will be as soon as the season starts without a further notice, so get that stuff in asap as well if you don't want to have random goals selected for you.
Do we have a list of who's sent in focus races? I'm pretty sure I sent mine but just want to make sure.
When in doubt, check your PM outbox. I was similarly worried last night so I used that to make sure.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 17-03-2021 16:37
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Yeah, just check your pm lol
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| dominox |
Posted on 17-03-2021 16:44
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Because my planning got "missing"... Croatia, do you have my focus races? Because I did send them on the next day as planning, lol |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 20-03-2021 13:44
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Startlists of this season: https://www.mediafire.com/file/s5orbv....xlsx/file
Use the selector to choose the race and go to the "Starters" tab to see the participants.
Edited by Bikex on 20-03-2021 19:56
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| Shonak |
Posted on 20-03-2021 13:59
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Thanks!
Giro is packed 
3 MT82 at Tour 
Bananito 4th best climber at Vuelta 
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Ripley |
Posted on 20-03-2021 14:48
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Thanks for the startlists. Have checked my two Majka-based goal races, he's clearly the best climber in Sochi, but with a weak TTT team. Only behind Herrada in Guatemala, I feel pretty good about these two choice.
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Posted on 21-11-2024 16:43
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| Bikex |
Posted on 27-03-2021 12:10
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I have compiled some new lists for the names of the regens in the upcoming scouting. If someone wants to help going through some for specific nations, let me know. |
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| DarkWolf |
Posted on 27-03-2021 14:05
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Bikex wrote:
I have compiled some new lists for the names of the regens in the upcoming scouting. If someone wants to help going through some for specific nations, let me know.
I could help with that.  |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 28-03-2021 16:55
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will we have tokyo olympics this season, ideally after the tour?
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| cio93 |
Posted on 19-05-2021 23:53
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Did I miss the start of scouting, or are we heavily backloading the rounds again this season?
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| Shonak |
Posted on 20-05-2021 05:38
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Yup, we tune down the pace a bit with the results but scouting seems to be happening later on.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Bikex |
Posted on 07-06-2021 17:00
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Scouting
This is how Scouting works:
You sign scouts and send them to different regions. After each round you get a scouting update from them including data about talents they found there. After that you can change the instructions for the scouts, depending on if you want to send him somewhere else or it is possible to focus on specific talents they found. Meaning that the report on them will be much more accurate than before.
In total there will be 10 rounds (= # of racing months). From round 8 on you are allowed to sign precontracts with riders you have found for the upcoming season.
After the 10th round closes there will be the U21 World Championships.
Likely there will be two signing rounds again like last season (after rounds 7 and 10)
Scouts
Before we can get started, you'll have to sign scouts. Please download this file for creating your Scouts: https://www.mediafire.com/file/kzpub1....xlsx/file
Start by entering your team ID in the respective cell. As always you'll find it in the "Teams" tab. Your budget and IDs for your scouts will appear. Fill in as many scouts as you'd like to sign. You can freely choose Name and nationality, they won't have any influence. The interesting cells are Quantity (= how many riders a Scout finds) and Quality (= How good the reports on them are). Both can take values from 1 to 3. The cost of a scout is their added values * 20. So the cheapest scout costs 40 the most expensive 120.
When done send me the entire table including the scouts please. I'll then set up a personalized spreadsheet in which you will do your scouting and send you the link.
Due to the Scouting Packages that are sold independent from your Scouts work, it is not necessarily recommended to use up all your money for scouts. In a scouting package you get to see the full stats and potential of 5 riders. There will be sold different types of packs with different probabilities. Buying packs with money is a lot more of a gamble than investing in Scouts. Also scouts can uncover the full stats of a limited number of they found depending on their quality attribute (NEW!).
Scouting Regions
Another thing that can already be done is determining Scouting regions. Of course you can send a Scout to a single country, but some teams have focus on regions that include several countries. If you want to add a Scouting Region please do that here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...sp=sharing
This is the same file as last season, as you can see some had their fun in there.
I have added an example of the "Baltic States" at the bottom. If you want to have a scouting region added, please just expand the list. Enter a name for the region and the 3 letter codes of all countries(max 10) you want to include next to it.
If the region makes sense I'll approve it. There is some stuff to consider: The countries you add do have to have a connection. You can't for example add a region including Peru and Taiwan.
You can't make a region too big, by including many bigger (cycling) countries in a region. For example combining Netherlands and Belgium into a scouting region is not allowed, as that would be a too big talent pool. Italy and San Marino or Spain and Andorra would be accepted on the other hand.
Some countries have many added regions in PCM already, so it is also possible to focus on some of them if you like. Look into the tab "Regions" to see what is part of the game. Great Britain has some regions added newly. Thanks to Ripley for the help with that. You can include any of these regions into your created Scouting Regions. For example if your focus would be Basque you could combine Spanish and French regions into a Scouting zone. For that just copy the name of the regions exactly like it is in the file into the line of your scouting region.
If you want to send several Scouts to the same country it might be a good idea to split up that countrys regions into several so the scouts don't cross each others path
Information about Scouting Packages: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread...st_1285731 |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 09-06-2021 11:40
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Scouting Sheets
In the Scouting Sheet you do the actual Scouting. You get an individual sheet with your Scouts added.
The first thing you want to do is to send each Scout in a Scouting Region. You can check the list of approved regions in this sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...sp=sharing
Put the ID of the region you want to send a scout to next to him in the corresponding cell in the "Scouts" tab.
If you want to add another region that's not in the approved file, you can do that in this file: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...sp=sharing
Scouting Regions file explanation from the introduction post in the spoiler:Spoiler If you want to have a scouting region added, please just expand the list. Enter a name for the region and the 3 letter codes of all countries(max 10) you want to include next to it.
If the region makes sense I'll approve it. There is some stuff to consider: The countries you add do have to have a connection. You can't for example add a region including Peru and Taiwan.
You can't make a region too big, by including many bigger (cycling) countries in a region. For example combining Netherlands and Belgium into a scouting region is not allowed, as that would be a too big talent pool. Italy and San Marino or Spain and Andorra would be accepted on the other hand.
Some countries have many added regions in PCM already, so it is also possible to focus on some of them if you like. Look into the tab "Regions" to see what is part of the game. You can include any of these regions into your created Scouting Regions. For example if your focus would be Basque you could combine Spanish and French regions into a Scouting zone. For that just copy the name of the regions exactly like it is in the file into the line of your scouting region.
If you want to send several Scouts to the same country it might be a good idea to split up that countrys regions into several so the scouts don't cross each others path
Always message me after you have given your Scout instructions for the next round. I'll then enter the Scouting Reports. Check the last paragraph of this post to see how to make a scout focus on a specific rider.
(NEW!) Depending on the scouts quality attribute you are allowed to ask him for a specific number of reports including all stats and the potential. This number is 2,4,6 for quality attribute of 1,2,3 respectively. You can do this at any point in the scouting process just tell me so by PM. However the selected talent must have been found at least been scouted for three rounds at the point of your request.
Scouting Reports
I'm going to start reponding with scouting reports to those that have sent their scout already some place. The reports are not difficult to understand but here are some information to understand all the columns:
Nationality: Not only the nationality but also the region if a country is divided by regions.
Speciality: Main speciality of a talent, possible entries are one of these 7: Stage Racer, Climber, Timetrialist, Sprinter, Puncheur, Flandrien, Fighter
Pot: Before finally knowing the exact potential your scout will collect his impressions on a riders potential. If an impression is good a "+" will be added if it is bad you'll see a "-". The higher the potential the higher the chance for a "+".
AVG: current averge of a rider, the more investigated he gets the more accurate it gets.
Source: Scout that found this rider.
Month: Round a rider was found
Changed: Marked if in the last update the accuracy of a report was increased.
Pot6/7: Probability, depending on your reports in the Pot column, a rider is potential 6 or 7.
#1-#5 (NEW!): The best five stats of the talent. They will be uncovered with the scout's progress on the average, starting with the best stat. Don't be confused ~ 2/3 of talents have DH or FI as their best stat.
Signed: Shows whether another team has signed the rider already
I will message you after I have added reports to your scouting sheets. As until round 8 no riders can be signed you can continue with your scouting until that point already (complete 7 rounds). Just update your scouts tab for the next round and send me another message. Either leave a scout in a region or change it. If you do the first, the reports of riders he has found in previous rounds in that regions gain accuracy.
From round 2 on you can make a scout focus on up to 3 specific riders he has found. Just enter the rider IDs in the respective cells. The Id of a rider can be found in the "ID" column not the "#" column. By doing that the quality of the scouting report on these riders increase quickly. If you decide to make a scout focus on less than 3 riders, the reports on the 2 or 1 riders you let him investigate, get even better.
You can still start scouting by signing scouts first(check previous post).
Edited by Bikex on 09-06-2021 14:01
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| Bikex |
Posted on 09-06-2021 11:43
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I know there is some chance for strange names popping up among the regens. If you come across one that you think doesn't make sense and should be changed add them to this file: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...sp=sharing |
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| Ripley |
Posted on 09-06-2021 19:20
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Classics Specialist
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(NEW!) Depending on the scouts quality attribute you are allowed to ask him for a specific number of reports including all stats and the potential. This number is 2,4,6 for quality attribute of 1,2,3 respectively. You can do this at any point in the scouting process just tell me so by PM. However the selected talent must have been found at least been scouted for three rounds at the point of your request.
This could be useful. Scouted for 3 rounds is based on the month column? Or is it getting 3 impressions?
#1-#5 (NEW!): The best five stats of the talent. They will be uncovered with the scout's progress on the average, starting with the best stat. Don't be confused ~ 2/3 of talents have DH or FI as their best stat.
This seems less useful, the speciality allows us to take a good guess as to what the best stats are.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 09-06-2021 22:38
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Ripley wrote:
This could be useful. Scouted for 3 rounds is based on the month column? Or is it getting 3 impressions?
Month column. So after round 7 e.g. you can get it for any rider found until round 5.
Ripley wrote:
This seems less useful, the speciality allows us to take a good guess as to what the best stats are.
I guess it still helps, especially for riders listed as "Fighter" |
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| Ripley |
Posted on 10-06-2021 07:23
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Man, scouting Britain really is a thankless job. Of the first 15 riders I found, 9 are TT specialists!
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