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TdF'13 Stage 17 - Embrun to Chorges (July 17)
Spilak23
Mr. Froome was 10" faster as Velits (who had by far the best bike change of everybody due to Bramati having an impressive sprint) on the last part. Atleast 15secs faster as all others

Edit: It was raining for Froome

Edit2: Purito fastest on the second hill while he changed bikes during the climb
Edited by Spilak23 on 17-07-2013 21:01
 
Alakagom
Wow, feel sorry for Peraud, can't get much unluckier than this. Was looking preety solid to grab that Top 10 as well.
See Blanco boys do what they do usually best as well :L
Edited by Alakagom on 17-07-2013 17:58
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Thought he was beaten, but should've known better. Usual boring conclusion...

Also sad about Péraud, can't get much worse that that. Could be his last chance for a good tour GC.
 
Stromeon
Ian Butler wrote:
Jacdk wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Missed the stage. Can someone give me a brief summary please? Smile


Contador tried but failed and Froome took the win.

Mollema had a bad day and drove himself out of the GC

Rodriguez and Valverde drove like insane and was only beat by Contador and Froome.

Kreuziger had a good day and finished after Rod, Val


Thanks!


And to all those with sarcastic comments: thanks for the input Pfft a time trial can have a summary, yes. "the riders rode" is not a (good) summary Pfft


'The riders rode' is better than 'The riders drove' which is one of those things that really annoys me Pfft I think it's because in some languages the verb for ride and drive is the same eg isn't German Ich fahre rad, Ich fahre Auto??
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ppanther
Stromeon wrote:
Ich fahre rad, Ich fahre Auto??


Correct.
 
Ian Butler
Just saw that Quintana did better than Kwiatek, nicely done.
 
kubys
BritPCMFan wrote:


The bigger build guys (Froome/Wiggo/Evans etc) have bigger frames, so weigh more.


Evans a big guy O.o
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TimoCycling
Ian Butler wrote:
Just saw that Quintana did better than Kwiatek, nicely done.


Quintana is overpoweredPfft. Climbing goat...
 
Jacdk
TimoCycling wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Just saw that Quintana did better than Kwiatek, nicely done.


Quintana is overpoweredPfft. Climbing goat...


I cant believe that Quintana is only 23 Smile he looks like he is at least 40+

But ya he did decent today and he will probably move into the top 5 tomorrow.
 
TimoCycling
Jacdk wrote:
TimoCycling wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Just saw that Quintana did better than Kwiatek, nicely done.


Quintana is overpoweredPfft. Climbing goat...


I cant believe that Quintana is only 23 Smile he looks like he is at least 40+

But ya he did decent today and he will probably move into the top 5 tomorrow.


I think he will move into the top 3 aswell this Tour. He's the best climber after Froomedawg. His climbing style annoys me because it looks like it's nothing to him but yeah he is a great climberPfft.
 
ppanther
Jacdk wrote:
I cant believe that Quintana is only 23 Smile he looks like he is at least 40+

But ya he did decent today and he will probably move into the top 5 tomorrow.


Reminds me of Freddy Adu. Probably way older then he said he is. But i don't think it's the case here.
 
BritPCMFan
kubys wrote:
BritPCMFan wrote:


The bigger build guys (Froome/Wiggo/Evans etc) have bigger frames, so weigh more.


Evans a big guy O.o


Is Evans small? He always looks big to me. Not as big as Froome/Wiggo/Lance but certainly broader then some of the very slender latin riders.
 
Pellizotti2
BritPCMFan wrote:
Is Evans small? He always looks big to me. Not as big as Froome/Wiggo/Lance but certainly broader then some of the very slender latin riders.

He's relatively short (174 cm), but much heavier in relation to his size than the other top climbers. Contador, for example, is 2 cm taller but weighs 6 kg less.
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Le Kaydale
I was impressed by Quintana's mentality today. He didn't burst out on the first incline and so he was able to pace himself well around the course.

And I think Rodriguez's time highlighted the grimpeur-nature of the course.

So sad about Péraud though Sad
 
issoisso
Evans is average height, but quite muscular compared to other GC men. He looks like cyclists did before AICAR and EPO

Dumoulin 1,59
Rujano 1,62
Miyazawa 1,64
Sella 1,65
Quintana/Betancur 1,67
Zaugg 1,68
Rodríguez 1,69
Castroviejo 1,70
Rebellin 1,71
Albasini 1,72
Antón 1,73
Evans 1,74
Cavendish 1,75
Contador 1,76
Valverde 1,77
Goss 1,78
Kiserlovski 1,79
Nibali 1,80
Hagen 1,81
Chavanel 1,82
Klöden 1,83
Rolland 1,84
T.Martin 1,85
Froome 1,86
Plaza 1,87
Dekker 1,88
Voigt 1,89
Oss 1,90
Boom 1,91
Boonen 1,92
Karpets 1,93
Knees 1,94
Selvaggi 1,95
Schär 1,96
Phinney 1,97
Sieberg 1,98



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Spilak23
Pellizotti2 wrote:
BritPCMFan wrote:
Is Evans small? He always looks big to me. Not as big as Froome/Wiggo/Lance but certainly broader then some of the very slender latin riders.

He's relatively short (174 cm), but much heavier in relation to his size than the other top climbers. Contador, for example, is 2 cm taller but weighs 6 kg less.


Especially Evans arms are very normal. Nothing like Froome's arms.

A proof to me Evans is a clean guy who never even came close to Aicar or clent.

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Edited by Spilak23 on 17-07-2013 19:58
 
ruben
Alakagom wrote:
Wow, feel sorry for Peraud, can't get much unluckier than this. Was looking preety solid to grab that Top 10 as well.
See Blanco boys do what they do usually best as well :L


What's the problem with the Belkin boys? They simply finish at their level. And they will probably end the Tour at their level (lower end top 10 for Mollema. Ten Dam perhaps even above his level if he actually manages to stay top 10)
 
TimoCycling
ruben wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Wow, feel sorry for Peraud, can't get much unluckier than this. Was looking preety solid to grab that Top 10 as well.
See Blanco boys do what they do usually best as well :L


What's the problem with the Belkin boys? They simply finish at their level. And they will probably end the Tour at their level (lower end top 10 for Mollema. Ten Dam perhaps even above his level if he actually manages to stay top 10)


I agree, but I still think Mollema can achieve a top 5. And he's only 26 so he hopefully is even stronger next year.
 
Alakagom
ruben wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Wow, feel sorry for Peraud, can't get much unluckier than this. Was looking preety solid to grab that Top 10 as well.
See Blanco boys do what they do usually best as well :L


What's the problem with the Belkin boys? They simply finish at their level. And they will probably end the Tour at their level (lower end top 10 for Mollema. Ten Dam perhaps even above his level if he actually manages to stay top 10)


I meant the late crashes in this case.

Performance wise? Punching well above the expectations so far up to this point. Impressive display so far.
Edited by Alakagom on 17-07-2013 20:55
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Wilier
issoisso wrote:
Evans is average height, but quite muscular compared to other GC men. He looks like cyclists did before AICAR and EPO

Dumoulin 1,59
Rujano 1,62
Miyazawa 1,64
Sella 1,65
Quintana/Betancur 1,67
Zaugg 1,68
Rodríguez 1,69
Castroviejo 1,70
Rebellin 1,71
Albasini 1,72
Antón 1,73
Evans 1,74
Cavendish 1,75
Contador 1,76
Valverde 1,77
Goss 1,78
Kiserlovski 1,79
Nibali 1,80
Hagen 1,81
Chavanel 1,82
Klöden 1,83
Rolland 1,84
T.Martin 1,85
Froome 1,86
Plaza 1,87
Dekker 1,88
Voigt 1,89
Oss 1,90
Boom 1,91
Boonen 1,92
Karpets 1,93
Knees 1,94
Selvaggi 1,95
Schär 1,96
Phinney 1,97
Sieberg 1,98



There. I've made a ladder Pfft


You forgot Vandenbergh at 1,99. The tallest pro rider in the peloton. And I didn't know Phinney was that tall.

Another thing I want to point out from today's time trial.

46 KITTEL Marcel Team Argos - Shimano 4:17

Impressive from a rider who supposedly could't climb a speedbump before this TdF.
 
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