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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 17-04-2013 17:07
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Why is this even a classic, it is complete boredom year after year. 500 metres of action and not much of a great action anyway.
They can also drop them under the Mur next year and let them sprint only.
Gilbert went too early and Sagan cooked himself behing him.
Nice 17th for Kreuziger after Amstel, i think he is the top contender for Sunday (proper race,unlike today).
Why is everyone so surprised by Kwiatek? He was doing exactly same things at Tirreno. 
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 17-04-2013 17:18
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Mur de Huy (last 1 km of Fleche Wallone)
2008 Kirchen: 3:01
2009 Rebellin: 2:45
2010 Evans: 2:46
2011 Gilbert: 2:45
2012 Rodriguez: 3:00
Today Daniel Moreno: 2 min 49 sec, 21.30 Kph
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| ryant |
Posted on 17-04-2013 17:19
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another surprising result:
ANTON 8th!?!!?!
Always does well in Fleche anyway so maybe not too surprising...
 John St Ledger in Team Bunzl-Centrica and Team U25Red Bull Driver in RFactor
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 17-04-2013 17:21
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ianrussell wrote:
Mur de Huy (last 1 km of Fleche Wallone)
2008 Kirchen: 3:01
2009 Rebellin: 2:45
2010 Evans: 2:46
2011 Gilbert: 2:45
2012 Rodriguez: 3:00
Today Daniel Moreno: 2 min 49 sec, 21.30 Kph
(source vetooo@ammattipyoraily)
Would surprise me cause they started the Mur really slow.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 17-04-2013 17:30
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Spilak23 wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
Mur de Huy (last 1 km of Fleche Wallone)
2008 Kirchen: 3:01
2009 Rebellin: 2:45
2010 Evans: 2:46
2011 Gilbert: 2:45
2012 Rodriguez: 3:00
Today Daniel Moreno: 2 min 49 sec, 21.30 Kph
(source vetooo@ammattipyoraily)
Would surprise me cause they started the Mur really slow.
Another source has it @2:48, so I think it's spot on.
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 17-04-2013 17:59
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Kwiatek to win L-B-L |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 17-04-2013 18:03
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Kwiatek to win L-B-L
Don't say it. If he win's, Alak will screw us all. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 17-04-2013 18:08
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Kwiatek to win L-B-L
I'm going for the Moreno-esque pick of Nocentini  |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 17-04-2013 18:10
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Miguel98 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Kwiatek to win L-B-L
Don't say it. If he win's, Alak will screw us all.
Ugh. UGH. That's worse than Moreno winning then.
No offense Alak though. 
Edited by kumazan on 17-04-2013 18:10
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 17-04-2013 18:20
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ryant wrote:
ANTON 8th!?!!?!
Always does well in Fleche anyway so maybe not too surprising...
Indeed, not much of a surprise.
Even though he is faaaar from his former level, this finish still suits him perfectly.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 17-04-2013 20:48
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Managed to catch the ending (so the whole race really ) on YouTube. But the damn video said that Moreno won in the description.
Was a little surprised to see them let Betancur get such a gap, but it worked out for Moreno in the end. Just think what Dan Martin could have done with a bit of good positioning work.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 17-04-2013 20:50
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In defense of Martin, he had a flat on a real bad moment, so he would've been positioned better if that didn't happen |
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 17-04-2013 20:52
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You are all wrong! Chuck Norris will win LBL ya fools! 
"America. Show a nipple on television and the whole country goes ape-shit." -DubbelDekker
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 17-04-2013 20:52
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Garmin should actually support their leaders. When both Hesjedal and Martin have to chase back alone after a flat, something is wrong. Kreder, Stetina and especially Wegmann should have helped them.
Definatly see Martin winning here in the future. (Though beating these Colombians will be hard in the future, for everyone)
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 17-04-2013 21:01
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Spilak23 wrote:
Garmin should actually support their leaders. When both Hesjedal and Martin have to chase back alone after a flat, something is wrong. Kreder, Stetina and especially Wegmann should have helped them.
I have nothing to say about Kreder or Wegmann, but Stetina was the one who gave Martin his wheel when the latter punctured. After that, it's pretty hard to make it back that late in the race. 
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 17-04-2013 21:04
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Thread to L - B - L is up: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=29024 |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 17-04-2013 21:50
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LBL isn't an Ardenees classic? |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 17-04-2013 21:52
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baseballlover312 wrote:
LBL isn't an Ardenees classic?
It's more special than other two.
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 17-04-2013 21:57
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Managed to catch the ending (so the whole race really ) on YouTube. But the damn video said that Moreno won in the description.
Was a little surprised to see them let Betancur get such a gap, but it worked out for Moreno in the end. Just think what Dan Martin could have done with a bit of good positioning work.
Gilbert probably didn't have the legs anyway but Betancur going early seemed to call out Gilbert that bit earlier then he wanted as he saw the gap reaching a race winning margin.
Martin must at least take some confidence into LBL. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 17-04-2013 22:13
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Martin flatted with 20 km to go. He chased back alone, no help from his teammates. When he reached the back the pack was all strung out from the pace. Garmin should have helped him to the front there. They still had Hesjedal, Kreder, and Wegmann. He got no help. and got pretty close to the front by himself. He was in the 4th row on the base of the Mur.
He looked really good from a back shot we saw going up, but a bunch a domestiques were cracking in front of him and he was blocked in and too far away from responding. But you saw the force he had at the end. Almost pipped Betancur for the podium coming from like 10th place around the last bend. Amazingly strong.
Garmin should be all in for him on Sunday. And if he has the kind of day he had today, with no acidents and good positioning, he's my pick for Liege-Bastogne-Liege. |
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