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| brewers90 |
Posted on 13-02-2015 16:04
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Terrible start to the season, expecting to be bottom of the WT
See you down there.
Absolutely disgraceful yet again from us. I don't understand why my riders never attack despite having nobody to work for. Dennis is the biggest pile of turd in the WT peloton and the rest of them, well. The only hour record he'll be getting in ICL is the one for who can ride the most hours without scoring a single point.
But Swift did get a top 10 and finished a mighty 37th in the GC, so I expect thousands of points.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 13-02-2015 16:32
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Not bottom 
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| brewers90 |
Posted on 13-02-2015 16:39
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Owain Doull is the 32nd best rider in the world.
My Dev Team is not far behind my main team despite only doing 1 race day. 
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| knockout |
Posted on 13-02-2015 16:42
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Hmm. Third is good for now. Cannot really say if that is good or decent or bad for now 
Kudus to my dev team. They already have 1 point!
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| Bikex |
Posted on 13-02-2015 17:02
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I just realised that I didn't check the race planners of WT teams for riders with above avg 76,00 riding CT.2 races. Now it kind of would be a huge effort for me to check that all again.
I realize that it was hard to remember that rule when doing the planning, as I said it only once before. I guess a lot of you didn't think of that.
Already at Algarve we now have 2 WT riders with 76,00+ at the start.
So I'd like to hear your oppinion on what to do now. Do you want me to take those riders off the startlist or do you think it shouldn't be a big problem.
In comparison to last season CT teams already have anyways bigger chances to win at CT races as WT teams spend way less days in CT races now, but on the other hand the second CT division was created to avoid strong WT riders taking part there.. |
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| brewers90 |
Posted on 13-02-2015 17:08
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Seeing as I remembered the rule and couldn't send Swift to a couple of races I wanted him to do (76.1 AVG  ), I think it's massively unfair.
Why should people be rewarded for not reading the rules?
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 13-02-2015 17:09
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A Rule is a Rule. I know i made sure to not send 76+AVG rider to CT.2 races, especially as i applied to a couple of those that really suit my leaders and focus but didn't send those leaders. I'm not even a CT team and i'm annoyed grrrrrr
If everyone forgot then you could allow it but don't disadvantage CT teams or those WT teams who followed the rules. A Rule is a Rule and is to be followed.
Just take those riders off the startlists and don't let the managers change the planning as penalty
Edited by TheManxMissile on 13-02-2015 17:10
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 13-02-2015 17:13
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For me as a weak CT-team(Geox-Kalev) riders like this from the World Tour would be killing so I wouldn´t really like to see them there, BUT it would be loads of more work for you so just leave it like it is now if it´s too much for you...better the whole thing is working than less success for the CT-Teams :/
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 13-02-2015 17:22
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I for one forgot the rule when making my planner, so there will be a few mistakes there. Maybe cut the points those riders get in half?
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 13-02-2015 17:36
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Loving the Toowoomba Stage 4 screenshot of Jérôme Coppel in the purple leaders jersey and the amazing 5th place in GC. This could well be the high point of the Eurosport-Pepsi season!
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| Smowz |
Posted on 13-02-2015 17:48
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I planned my season based on this rule that weaker riders would be in the c2 race.
Remove offending riders for sure is my recommendation.
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| The Rider |
Posted on 13-02-2015 17:52
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Second is Australia, we can live with that. A similar result in Pais Vasco would be amazing. 
Bikex - I would just take the 76+ riders off the startlist and leave it at that, those teams should not be rewarded for ignoring the rules, though why a WT team would send a 76+AVG to a .2 race is very strange. |
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| knockout |
Posted on 13-02-2015 17:54
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Rules should be followed especially when there is a massive advantage for teams that do not follow it. I would give everybody the chance to check & resend his startlists if there are any mistakes but if they do not do so then it's their own fault and they can be taken off the startlist.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 13-02-2015 18:42
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Okay I just checked in which races we have these kind of problems. Those are the riders that take part at CT.2 races and shouldn't:
| Algarve | Gasparotto, Pozzovivo, Meersman | | Kobnhavn | Van Keirsbulck | | Ster ZLM | Van Poppel | | Romandie | Rojas | | Ride London | Greipel, Viviani, Meersman | | Hainleite | Van Keirsbulck | | Praha | Greipel, Coquard, Viviani, Meersman | | Bishkek | Coquard, Meersman | | Milano-Torino | Mollema |
I'll pm the managers and ask them to change their planning. These teams are Allianz, LA Aluminios, Filliers, Fiskars.
I already ran the first stage of Algarve and I'd like to keep the result as far as possible so as it is a TT I'll just ask the managers to replace the riders and will rerun the TT just with those riders and that way add them to the result I already have.
Edited by Bikex on 13-02-2015 18:42
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 13-02-2015 18:46
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Bad in Toowoomba for La Antarte
FC Porto top of U23 
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 13-02-2015 18:54
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I'll try to do it early next week, what's the earliest race that I can make changes to?
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 13-02-2015 19:02
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Well done Jesus. This way, I got my stage win out of Toowoomba. Always nice when a new signing proves his value early on.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 13-02-2015 19:15
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Can't wait for Algarve, which is SAP's season start. Funny looking at the ranking when my team hasn't even raced yet.
Really regretting not signing up for the first couple of races, but they weren't European.
"What done is, is one." - Benji Naesen
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| Roextro |
Posted on 13-02-2015 19:18
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Not a terrible start to the season, Gadret with a few solid results but really threw GC ambitions away on the time trial |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 13-02-2015 19:19
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Crap, looks like an extra-work to do for you, but if I were you I'd let WT managers fix it, was just because it would spoil the fun for us, continental team managers (especially considering that I'd hate a Mollema ruining all my Milano-Torino plans  )
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