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Tour De France '13 Stage 2: June 30, Bastia - Ajaccio
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SweatyViking wrote:
I've got sort of a Weylandt-feeling about the descent after Vizzavona. It looks really nasty.

Really?

It's not at all technical. A few bends near the top, but after that it's practically straight forward all the way down.
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CountArach
I've got a dollar on Simon at 70:1 odds thinking that this was a good stage for him. Why is he attacking? He can climb much better than most sprinters.
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Selwink
CountArach wrote:
I've got a dollar on Simon at 70:1 odds thinking that this was a good stage for him. Why is he attacking? He can climb much better than most sprinters.


Keep in mind there is still a guy in the pack named Peter, and a certain John is also sitting on a bike on Corsica

Edit: besides, he's reeled in already
Edited by Selwink on 30-06-2013 13:10
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Boom might take Green jersey just by winning that sprint again?


Only 20 points in intermediate, so that is not a possibility.


True. Thought its 25.


No, it is 20 points.

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1. NEDBOOM Lars 161 BELKIN PRO CYCLING 20 pts
2. ESPFLECHA GIANNONI Juan Antonio 204 VACANSOLEIL-DCM 17 pts
3. FRALEMOINE Cyril 215 SOJASUN 15 pts
4. FRACOUSIN Jérome 53 TEAM EUROPCAR 13 pts
5. ESPLOBATO DEL VALLE Juan José 115 EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI 11 pts
6. GERGREIPEL André 24 LOTTO-BELISOL 10 pts
7. GBRCAVENDISH Mark 151 OMEGA PHARMA-QUICK STEP 9 pts
8. SVKSAGAN Peter 11 CANNONDALE 8 pts
9. BELBOECKMANS Kris 202 VACANSOLEIL-DCM 7 pts
10. AUSGOSS Matthew Harley 184 ORICA GREENEDGE 6 pts
11. FRABOUHANNI Nacer 73 FDJ.FR 5 pts
12. ITASABATINI Fabio 18 CANNONDALE 4 pts
13. BELSTEEGMANS Gert 156 OMEGA PHARMA-QUICK STEP 3 pts
14. FRACHAVANEL Sylvain 152 OMEGA PHARMA-QUICK STEP 2 pts
15. FRAHIVERT Jonathan 214 SOJASUN 1 pts


I said true, agreed with you having checked the website lol
 
Tjoertszc
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Tjoertszc wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Tjoertszc wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Boom might take Green jersey just by winning that sprint again?


Only 20 points in intermediate, so that is not a possibility.


True. Thought its 25.


No, it is 20 points.

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1. NEDBOOM Lars 161 BELKIN PRO CYCLING 20 pts
2. ESPFLECHA GIANNONI Juan Antonio 204 VACANSOLEIL-DCM 17 pts
3. FRALEMOINE Cyril 215 SOJASUN 15 pts
4. FRACOUSIN Jérome 53 TEAM EUROPCAR 13 pts
5. ESPLOBATO DEL VALLE Juan José 115 EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI 11 pts
6. GERGREIPEL André 24 LOTTO-BELISOL 10 pts
7. GBRCAVENDISH Mark 151 OMEGA PHARMA-QUICK STEP 9 pts
8. SVKSAGAN Peter 11 CANNONDALE 8 pts
9. BELBOECKMANS Kris 202 VACANSOLEIL-DCM 7 pts
10. AUSGOSS Matthew Harley 184 ORICA GREENEDGE 6 pts
11. FRABOUHANNI Nacer 73 FDJ.FR 5 pts
12. ITASABATINI Fabio 18 CANNONDALE 4 pts
13. BELSTEEGMANS Gert 156 OMEGA PHARMA-QUICK STEP 3 pts
14. FRACHAVANEL Sylvain 152 OMEGA PHARMA-QUICK STEP 2 pts
15. FRAHIVERT Jonathan 214 SOJASUN 1 pts


I said true, agreed with you having checked the website lol


Aha, I understood it as "Though it's 25".
 
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CountArach wrote:
I've got a dollar on Simon at 70:1 odds thinking that this was a good stage for him. Why is he attacking? He can climb much better than most sprinters.


To be honest Count his 2013 results don't suggest he'll be much of a factor, I had him in my fantasy team last year and he was nowhere in most of the tours hilly sprinters finishes. Two wins at the 2012 Volta ahead of Rigo Uran and Gavazzi doesn't suggest to me he'll be any competition for Sagan etc.

Not really convinced by the Degenkolb or Hagen prospects either. Both look like they have lost a lot of speed.

Guys like Gallopin or Goss.

Sherwin and Liggitt banging their usual nonsense. Moaning about points given at finish yesterday and my favourite today 'Omega Pharma at front perhaps they think Cav can get over the climb' .... 3 km before the intermediate sprint the real reason why they are there.
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I've no idea why I decided to "kick" Boom out of my fantasy team...
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CountArach
Selwink wrote:
CountArach wrote:
I've got a dollar on Simon at 70:1 odds thinking that this was a good stage for him. Why is he attacking? He can climb much better than most sprinters.


Keep in mind there is still a guy in the pack named Peter, and a certain John is also sitting on a bike on Corsica

Edit: besides, he's reeled in already


Yeah but the odds on them were much, much shorter and 70:1 was a good bet I felt. I would put him amongst the 10 favourites for the day. Well at least before he decided to attack...
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Smowz
Gorilla is looking strong, Sagan solid, Cav can't be bothered and Van Poppel... Wow
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Tjoertszc
Smowz wrote:
CountArach wrote:
I've got a dollar on Simon at 70:1 odds thinking that this was a good stage for him. Why is he attacking? He can climb much better than most sprinters.


To be honest Count his 2013 results don't suggest he'll be much of a factor, I had him in my fantasy team last year and he was nowhere in most of the tours hilly sprinters finishes. Two wins at the 2012 Volta ahead of Rigo Uran and Gavazzi doesn't suggest to me he'll be any competition for Sagan etc.

Not really convinced by the Degenkolb or Hagen prospects either. Both look like they have lost a lot of speed.

Guys like Gallopin or Goss.

Sherwin and Liggitt banging their usual nonsense. Moaning about points given at finish yesterday and my favourite today 'Omega Pharma at front perhaps they think Cav can get over the climb' .... 3 km before the intermediate sprint the real reason why they are there.


Agree that Hagen was disappointing yesterday, but he has some good results this season when he has had permission to go for it. Degenkolb on the other hand has no noteworthy results this year other than the free Giro stage.

I had Gallopin as a joker for today, but his crash yesterday was pretty bad, so I doubt he will be up there. Goss just seems like he has lost all momentum. He has had his share of bad luck, but he often just falls through when he has a shot of achieving something. Would not surprise me if he drops before Cav and Greipel today.

I find Kristoff extremely strong at the moment and the headwind sprint should suit him well if it is a small group. Would also be fun to see Dumoulin end up with yellow with a bit of luck. Smile
 
Smowz
alexkr00 wrote:
I've no idea why I decided to "kick" Boom out of my fantasy team...


I was about to boot him on last day, but I really couldn't find another 6 or 4 pointer. Guys like Simon and Amador didn't convince. So I thought I'd have a punt on a breakaway rider.

By the way something I will say for Sherwin is I love his information on the scenery.
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Cavendish is being sensible, taking points but not wasting energy. Van Poppel is really impressing Smile
 
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Would anyone mind looking up posts of people who said bringing van Poppel to the Tour was stupid? Have to leave myself atm
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It's even more stupid now. WAYYYYY to many pressure from the media
 
Bjartne
Tjoertszc wrote:
Agree that Hagen was disappointing yesterday, but he has some good results this season when he has had permission to go for it. Degenkolb on the other hand has no noteworthy results this year other than the free Giro stage.


I also wondered what happened with EBH's sprint in a rather weak sprinting field. Got the explanation on norwegian tv.

Did a quick translation of the interview for those interrested:
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R: What happened in the sprint there?
E: There were a lot of counter messages during the last kilometers. First I got the message that the finish were only 3 kms away, when it really was 10 km to go, after some time, suddenly we went back to the original finish line. Everything became really hectic in the Peloton. Then I had a small "crash" during the build up of the sprint. *lifting up his wheel and showing that it is locked, managing to turn it a couple of centimeters with his arms*

E: As you can imagine, it's not the easiest of tasks to sprint with such a back wheel, haha.
R: Is it completely stuck?
E: Yeah..the sprint was challenging.
R: So, how did this happen?
E: Somebody crashed into me from behind, I had strong legs and felt I could challenge for victory, but I feel lucky that I avoid the asphalt, and I'm not that disappointed with my sprint given the circumstances. I mean, it is a bit difficult when the wheel suddenly won't roll around.
R: Do you think you could have won, withouth the last accident?
E: It's impossible to know how it would have gone then, but I know I would have finished higher than yesterday, if my wheel would have been a little more co-operative. It's a pity, but as I said, I'm glad I didn't crash like so many did in the end, and I hope that everyone else are fine.
R: Have you ever raced a more dramatic stage in the TdF?
E: The start of the stage was both easy and relaxing, but it became really chaotic in the end, espescially when we reached the point where nobody knew where the finish line was.


The interview can be seen here:
https://www.tv2.no...28787.html
Edited by Bjartne on 30-06-2013 14:11
 
Aquarius
May the thunder hit eurosport's live ticker guy.
"Katusha starts riding. Do Rodriguez or Moreno plan on attacking later ?"
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issoisso
Selwink wrote:
Would anyone mind looking up posts of people who said bringing van Poppel to the Tour was stupid? Have to leave myself atm


It's an even worse decision now.
If he wins the Tour it's still stupid.

The chances of this ruining his career are high.
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Smowz
Bye bye Cav. He is good on the hills you know Pfft
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Kittel climbs better than Cav :lol:
 
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