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Big's Stages NEW VARIANT 20/20
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 20-09-2012 04:49
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Alphabet wrote:
The amount of TT is good, it balances out the more than usual number of climbs for GC contenders. 100km of flat time trialling will force climbers to make use of the mountain stages, which are well designed.
You have a good point in that, but he's not claiming the overall length of TT, rather the frequenzy. In the end, there is no need for a prologue, because I already have long timetrial stages. Those 4km's will not change that much and as I'm still not sure of the last mountain-stage it can be also possible that I cut some mountain out of the profile.
@ lluuiiggii
Yeah, finally got your broad hint 
Edited by bigggassi on 20-09-2012 05:09
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 20-09-2012 05:01
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Tour de France new Variant: 1/21
Stage 1: Nice - Saint Raphael
Length: 185km
Type: Hilly
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The outcome of the race was fine, even there were no gaps between the top 3. 1st group contained mostly GT-Contenders and Hilly-riders with 50 seconds to a huge pack and 1'27 to the last ones. Saw some problems with "flying" boats that I have to set to the sea-level^^. This was no mass-sprint, so the attack of the stagewinner came on the bottom of that short climb before the sprint. Btw, sorry for that german language, wanted to set my game to english, but since I bought this game via Steam there is no english language. I don't have that good graphic-card as well, so expect this should be look way better on your pc 
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Edited by bigggassi on 20-09-2012 05:05
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| Alphabet |
Posted on 20-09-2012 09:28
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That is a beastly climb to have on the opening day of a Grand Tour 
I would love it if Prudhomme came up with a route like this. |
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 20-09-2012 14:24
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Alphabet wrote:
That is a beastly climb to have on the opening day of a Grand Tour
I would love it if Prudhomme came up with a route like this.
It looks bigger and steeper than its actually is^^. The peleton had no problem to pass the two climbs. But thanks.  |
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| nathounet87 |
Posted on 20-09-2012 14:42
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bigggassi wrote:
As I wrote, I don't take this as an offense from nathounet87, not at all. I was just saying that he could be more precise, because besides that "Top Galibier"-Thing I don't know exactly what he is talking about. Btw, as I'm now watching on these created stages again I would make a lot of thing differently (better). As you mentioned somewhere else, its not that good idea to begin with a GT when you a "noob" on stagemaking. So with more than 130 created stages I do have now some more expierence in making good ones. At least I have the feeling 
I can be more precised
Col du Galibier :
IRL, max slope of the Galibier is 12% (a 100m part) and 10% for the rest.
Col du Télégraphe :
IRL, 5.5 % max !
Col de la Madeleine :
To compare, here is mine :
Madeleine downhill :
Courchevel :
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 20-09-2012 15:05
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Okay thanks, I thought you were mention other stages regarding your "crazy slopes". Anyway, I will take another look into the whole 2000 tour, at least the mountain stages. I will make this better and upload it soon. But I do not make 1:1 slopes. I will look that I have no big mistake in there, but I don't care about having for example on 5 km exactly the same percentage as in real life. I will care about the average percentages, that no climb will have much bigger max percentages than in real life and that the complete picture looks good. Also I will make the downhills a bit more flatter. But as I said, don't expect me to rebuild the exactly replication. As long as there are no crazy slopes and you can identify the mountain, this works for me (at least in this variant).
Btw, thanks for picturing my mistakes, even it would been enough if you just told me the climbs you're not comfortable with. |
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 20-09-2012 15:45
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bigggassi wrote:
Tour de France new Variant: 1/21
Stage 1: Nice - Saint Raphael
Length: 185km
Type: Hilly
Profile:
Stage 1 finished!
Download to test it already here: https://www.tinyuploads.com/download/f...ile/umNG8o
What to do to play:
- Download and unzip them to CM_Stages
- Load the game, play stage, click through your variants till you will get to "Bigggassi"
- Start the race.
Any sort of feedback is very appreciated!
Edited by bigggassi on 20-09-2012 16:12
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 20-09-2012 19:58
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So here's the updated stage to Courchevel. I think it should now better. I will also upload it to the Stage DB. Please test it and give me a feedback if its now better.
https://www.tinyuploads.com/download/f...ile/sOkbV6
Before:
Now:
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 21-09-2012 02:20
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Tour de France new Variant: 2/21
Stage 2: Fréjus - Marseille
Length: 228km
Type: Flat
Profile:
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Developer-"Blog":
Stage worked as desired. The KOM-Sprints made the Stage very interesting to watch as there are also a decent number of points to gain. As the stage came near the finish it got very windy so the peleton split up probably with 30km's left. Some Climbers got caught by this and lost 1-3 minutes. In the end because of those mountains and the length of the stage it was a very hard race which results in that Cavendish had not enough left in his legs to come in first. Btw, I changed the route. Thought this version would be more interesting.
Ingame-Screens:
Download to test it already here:
https://www.tinyuploads.com/download/f...ile/mTet4Y
What to do to play:
- Download and unzip them to CM_Stages
- Load the game, play stage, click through your variants till you will get to "Bigggassi"
- Start the race.
Any feedback is appreciated as always 
Edited by bigggassi on 21-09-2012 02:38
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 21-09-2012 04:05
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Tour de France new Variant: 3/21
Stage 3: Aix-en-Provence - Pertuis
Length: 41km
Type: TTT, Flat
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As getting rid of the opening prologue I decided to set the TTT earlier in this Tour. 1) The next stage comes the Mont Ventoux and after that some sprint-stages. I'm worried about the fact its possible that some weak climbing-teams don't finish in time on Mont Ventoux and too many riders maybe abondon because of crashes etc. So the game needs 5 riders per team otherwise it will crash. Better safe than sorry. 2) As TheManxMissile mentioned, there are timetrials to come, all in the 2nd and 3rd week. So it shouldn't be that horrible idea to move the TTT to the beginning of the tour. 3) I also like the idea of having 4 different types of stages at the beginning.^^
Regarding the gameplay: Nothing unusual, typical ttt-stage and very small gaps by the way.
Results:
Spoiler
1 Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team 56'26
2 Sky Procycling + 12
3 RadioShack - Nissan + 21
4 BMC Racing Team s.t.
5 Rabobank Cycling Team + 29
6 AG2R La Mondiale + 36
7 Liquigas - Cannondale + 38
8 Movistar Team +42
9 Euskaltel - Euskadi + 52
10 Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank +53
11 Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 1'04
12 Astana Pro Team + 1'05
13 Orica - GreenEdge + 1'06
14 Team Argos - Shimano + 1'10
15 Katusha Team + 1'23
16 Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
17 Garmin - Sharp s.t.
18 FDJ - BigMat + 1'38
19 Cofidis, le crédit en ligne + 1'42
20 Team Europcar + 1'49
21 Lampre - ISD s.t.
22 Saur - Sojasun + 3'00 (User)^^
Ingame-Screens:
Download to test it already here:
https://www.tinyuploads.com/download/f...ile/ksk5s3
What to do to play:
- Download and unzip them to CM_Stages
- Load the game, play stage, click through your variants till you will get to "Bigggassi"
- Start the race.
Any feedback is appreciated as always :) |
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| Alphabet |
Posted on 21-09-2012 06:38
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How do you import these into a career? |
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 21-09-2012 14:10
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Alphabet wrote:
How do you import these into a career?
If you want it to play as a Variant you have to wait unfortunately till I'm finished. But I will make an guide of how it will work. If you want just a single stage of them in your career you can edit the DB. Just look in STA_stages for the Stage you want to replace and change the last column to Bigggassi. Of course on condition you places the stage files in your CM_Stages-Folder. |
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 21-09-2012 18:19
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Tour de France new Variant: 4/21
Stage 4: Salon-de-Provence - Mont Ventoux
Length: 190km
Type: Mountain
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Climbs:
  
Developer-"Blog": Made some changes to the original route, because I already left Marseille on Stage 3 and put in some small climbs to make the game not too boring in the middle. The result I saw pleased me very much. In my opinion the best stage I made this far. Saw some missing road-marks as well which I will correct of course.
Screens:
      ![imageshack.us/a/img716/7646/pic71.png[/img}[img]https://imageshack.us/a/img16/8871/pic72.png](https://imageshack.us/a/img716/7646/pic71.png[/img}[img]https://imageshack.us/a/img16/8871/pic72.png)    
   
Download to test it already here:
https://www.tinyuploads.com/download/f...ile/45FYNO
What to do to play:
- Download and unzip them to CM_Stages
- Load the game, play stage, click through your variants till you will get to "Bigggassi"
- Start the race.
Any feedback is appreciated as always
Edited by bigggassi on 21-09-2012 21:55
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 21-09-2012 21:54
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Tour de France new Variant: 5/21
Stage 5: Carpentras - Montpellier
Length: 198km
Type: Flat
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After the intensive first days it should be more easier this time. No mountains, but quite long. However, something for the sprinters.
Ingame-Screens
   
Download to test it already here:
https://www.tinyuploads.com/download/f...ile/b9FopE
What to do to play:
- Download and unzip them to CM_Stages
- Load the game, play stage, click through your variants till you will get to "Bigggassi"
- Start the race.
Any feedback is appreciated as always
Edited by bigggassi on 21-09-2012 22:00
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 21-09-2012 23:05
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The Ventoux and the screens are looking really nice, keep it going
ps.: like the wide roads at the end of flat stages, hopefully they're in the middle as well, makes gameplay much better
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 21-09-2012 23:45
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lluuiiggii wrote:
The Ventoux and the screens are looking really nice, keep it going
ps.: like the wide roads at the end of flat stages, hopefully they're in the middle as well, makes gameplay much better
Thank you.
Unfortunately there are mostly '2' roads in the middle of the stages, yet. I just used wider roads in big cities, but I will reconsider this for the next stages. Tested all created stages and had no problems so far regarding the gameplay, especially because I set long road points. But you're right, it shouldn't hurt to use them more often. |
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 22-09-2012 01:50
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Stage 6: Montpellier - Revel
Length: 194km
Type: Flat
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Flat stage with a quick visit into the massif central, which brings two climbs with it. Besides this, its an easy stage, mostly flat and good for the sprinters. As lluuiiggii addressed, I used more wide roads on the flatter parts of the stage to get the gameplay more smoother.
Ingame-Screens:
Download to test it already here:
https://www.tinyuploads.com/download/f...ile/83GGFQ
What to do to play:
- Download and unzip them to CM_Stages
- Load the game, play stage, click through your variants till you will get to "Bigggassi"
- Start the race.
Any feedback is appreciated as always
Edited by bigggassi on 22-09-2012 04:32
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| Alphabet |
Posted on 22-09-2012 04:17
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bigggassi wrote:
Alphabet wrote:
How do you import these into a career?
If you want it to play as a Variant you have to wait unfortunately till I'm finished. But I will make an guide of how it will work. If you want just a single stage of them in your career you can edit the DB. Just look in STA_stages for the Stage you want to replace and change the last column to Bigggassi. Of course on condition you places the stage files in your CM_Stages-Folder.
Thank you, I am a bit of a newbie to PCM and I don't really know much about the technical side of the game. I have no problems to wait until you're finished |
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 22-09-2012 04:29
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Stage 7: Toulouse - Cazeres
Length: 194km
Type: Flat
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Climbs:
  
Developer-"Blog":
Original was the TTT planned here, but as I moved it to begin of the Tour and don't want to make further serious adjustments to the route I had to improvise a little bit. So, I created a route which lead the peleton from Toulouse to the foot of (but not into) the pyrenees to Cazeres. So we can see here another shot for the sprinters even the stage is not that easy. The test I ran approved this, because some sprinters couldn't sprint as they are normaly able to.
Ingame-Screens:
    
Download to test it already here:
https://www.tinyuploads.com/download/f...ile/xpzF9c
What to do to play:
- Download and unzip them to CM_Stages
- Load the game, play stage, click through your variants till you will get to "Bigggassi"
- Start the race.
Any feedback is appreciated as always |
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| bigggassi |
Posted on 22-09-2012 19:37
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Stage 8: Mauran - Hautacam
Length: 194km
Type: Mountain
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First day in the pyrenees and what a tough stage. It took me more than 6 hours to complete this stage as I made mostly 1:1 slopes and looked serious into the landscape. When I watch at the result I think the effort was it worth.
Ingame-Screens
Still flat, but not for long.
Here they are!
Intermediate-Sprint
Col de Peyresourde
On the descent
Col d'Aspin
The road to Hautacam. Even the regions people are excited, "hayrolled" a "Hautacam" into the field.
Start of the climb
Pantani on the attack, USP chasing.
Mr. "I've been tested over 500 times" goes for the win!
Download to test it already here:
https://www.tinyuploads.com/download/f...ile/cG1noz
What to do to play:
- Download and unzip them to CM_Stages
- Load the game, play stage, click through your variants till you will get to "Bigggassi"
- Start the race.
Any feedback is appreciated as always
Edited by bigggassi on 23-09-2012 01:42
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