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baseballlover312
Dan Martin 85 in hill! Grin lol no his current stats are fine.

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baseballlover312
Contador could be 80 for me but his recovery needs a big drop then.
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Pellizotti2
79 for Contador, I think. He was worse than Valverde on all Tour climbs except Ventoux, and nowhere near Purito and Quintana.
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85SP for Gesink obviously after yesterday Pfft
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Jesleyh
Hmm, I think 79 still suits him better.

Also, what about Gilbert?
Is he still worth his 80HI? To me, he can drop to 79HI, he isn't on level Valverde/Rodriguez and to please baseball, not really better than Dan Martin Grin
Maybe Phil can have 70 SP though?

And yeah, Gesink needs a sprint boost, 85 is a tad too generous, 84 would do. Nah, he really needs better, 58 seems to low.
And asking for 77HI for him is too generous, isn't it? Though he shows himself more in the hills than long mountains, lately.
Edited by Jesleyh on 14-09-2013 15:59
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Alakagom
Jesleyh wrote:
Hmm, I think 79 still suits him better.

Also, what about Gilbert?
Is he still worth his 80HI? To me, he can drop to 79HI, he isn't on level Valverde/Rodriguez and to please baseball, not really better than Dan Martin Grin
Maybe Phil can have 70 SP though?

And yeah, Gesink needs a sprint boost, 85 is a tad too generous, 84 would do. Nah, he really needs better, 58 seems to low.
And asking for 77HI for him is too generous, isn't it? Though he shows himself more in the hills than long mountains, lately.


Gilbert 70 sprinting is done. The hill question is interesting, he's definitely not dominating at all so it's very likely he will have 79 indeed.

Gesink, I mean if he performs at the Worlds, he'll likely receive something like that. With him I'll reserve my judgement till later Smile

( Kangert is on verge of being 77 for me too, I mean, constesting Top 10 in GC while domestiquing is very impressive, same at Giro , although it's debatable of course )
Edited by Alakagom on 14-09-2013 16:07
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Jorge14
People Stats for brothers Schlecks anyone can help??
 
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Jorge14 wrote:
People Stats for brothers Schlecks anyone can help??

76MO/76HI A.Schleck & 75/75 F.Schleck, I'd say.
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Dippofix
Jesleyh wrote:
Jorge14 wrote:
People Stats for brothers Schlecks anyone can help??

76MO/76HI A.Schleck & 75/75 F.Schleck, I'd say.

Yep, id've said so too. 81/78 and 78/79 is too high, IMO.
 
Jesleyh
Of course it is. But in the stat update, they had lower values, of course, so 81/78 are really old numbers Wink
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Dippofix
Jesleyh wrote:
Of course it is. But in the stat update, they had lower values, of course, so 81/78 are really old numbers Wink

Yeah, i Play PCM 12 with the 2013 DB, so most of my stats are probably outdated.
 
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Jesleyh
Well, I'd like to alert you that there's a stat update, well, even 2, 1 of them from after the TdF.
You can find it in the PCM 12 stat discussion thread, maybe 1 or 2 pages back Wink
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Spilak23
Haven't opened the daily db in a while but something that popped up in my head: Gregory Brenes needs atleast 78 downhill. Read multiple reports he is really great on descents and that was before he did this in USAPCC
 
AiZaK
Please add Sinkewitz in the DB!!!

Sinkewitz Hills 74
 
Jesleyh
Rather 72 or 73, not 74 hills.
And then with 72 MO, possibly.
But I agree, he should be added Wink
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AiZaK
In my opinion, this is the Climber Stats for the rider who is in La Vuelta:

Nibali 81
Valverde 80
Purito 80
Horner 79
Basso 78
Samuel 77
Roche 77/78
Pozzovivo 77
Pinot 77
Konig 77
Kangert 76
Kiserlovski 76
Dani Moreno 77
Scarponi 76
Igor Antón 76
José Herrada 75
David Arroyo 74
Barguil 74 (Fighter 77)
Nerz 74/75
C. Anker Sorensen 76
Majka 77
 
Jesleyh
Hmm, pretty accurate I think. Roche & Basso 77 to me, though. König maybe 76, not sure, and maybe Sanchez 76 as well. Also, if Barguil gets 77 fighter, he won't develop into a good climber normally, so 73 FTR is good.
Rodriguez deserves 81MO.
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Selwink
I don't think Purito should have 81MO. He lost a lot of time on the Angliru, while he mostly gains his time on climbs like the Peña Cabarga. 80 is fine to me.
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Jesleyh
Well, don't forget that he had a TdF, where he was great and probably the 3rd best climber.
He's on level Nibali to me, it's just hard to achieve in both Tour & Vuelta.
If Froome gets put on 83 and Quintana on 82, he deserves 81 along with Nibbles Wink
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Miguel98
Moreno doesn't deserve 77 MO imo. 76 tops.

Urán not there, why? 79/78 MO for him. Alak already referenced Henao, he looks like more of a puncheur instead of a climber, weird since his at Sky. Purito 81 definetelly, with a high recovery.
 
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