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TheManxMissile
So Vuelta 2014... Wiggins finishes 2nd behind Van Garderen. Kelderman 6th, Kiriyenka 10th, Siutsou 13th, Lopez 14th, Edmonson 19th as we dominated the Top20 and the Team as well. Kelderman also won the Youth.
Also watched the greatest Points battle ever (even better than Mre's Sagan story!)
Valverde vs Greipel vs Cavendish from stage 2 to stage 21. They were the only riders to lead that comp taking 12 wins between them! Stage 14 (7 to go) they were all tied on points. Cav's took a 5 lead over Greipel before Valverde hit back on the hills to retake the lead. Valverde extended in an MTT taking a 20pt lead over Cav's and 25 over Andre, with 4 to go (two flat, 2mountain). Valverde scored well on the mountains to hold a 34pt lead over Greipel and 35 over Cav's (3 to go). Greipel then steals a breakaway win over 5cols to pull within 4 pts of Valverde. Cavendish then wins stage 20 and Andre fails to score
1 stage to go Valverde leads Greipel by 4pts and Cav's by 6pts... Cavendish wins the stage, but Greipel grabs enough at the IS's to win the Points jersey by 1point on the final day. Valverde mixes it aswell to finish 3rd only 10pts down. It was incredible!!

Sagan and Martin finished 2-3 in Britain as the final Worlds warmup.

WCITT was won by Martin, with Kelderman 2nd, and Thomas 8th Smile
WCRR was won by Sagan with Kelderman 6th and Thomas 8th Smile
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Jesleyh
Vuelta went amazing for your team!
Worlds went great too!
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TheManxMissile
Jesleyh wrote:
Vuelta went amazing for your team!
Worlds went great too!


It was awesome, but now i cannot wait for the 2015 TDF for the following reasons:
Spoiler
Leader: Cavendish (SP83 ACC83 FL80 REC82 STA81)
Free Role: Kelderman (TT81 PRL80 MO78 HL76 REC78)
Team Mate: Swift (SP78 ACC 77 FL76 REC77)
Team Mate: Stannard (FL78)
Team Mate: Martin (TT84 PRL83 FL77 MO74 HL75)
Team Mate: Thomas (FL78 TT78 PRL79 SP73 ACC76)
Team Mate: Phinney (FL79 TT81 PRL79 SP74 ACC 74)
Team Mate: Chelyakov (guaranteed Yellow Jersey)
Team Mate: Bobridge (FL75 TT79 PRL76)

It's going to be Green Jersey, time trial and youth jersey domination!!!
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Jesleyh
TheManxMissile wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Vuelta went amazing for your team!
Worlds went great too!


It was awesome, but now i cannot wait for the 2015 TDF for the following reasons:
Spoiler
Leader: Cavendish (SP83 ACC83 FL80 REC82 STA81)
Free Role: Kelderman (TT81 PRL80 MO78 HL76 REC78)
Team Mate: Swift (SP78 ACC 77 FL76 REC77)
Team Mate: Stannard (FL78)
Team Mate: Martin (TT84 PRL83 FL77 MO74 HL75)
Team Mate: Thomas (FL78 TT78 PRL79 SP73 ACC76)
Team Mate: Phinney (FL79 TT81 PRL79 SP74 ACC 74)
Team Mate: Chelyakov (guaranteed Yellow Jersey)
Team Mate: Bobridge (FL75 TT79 PRL76)

It's going to be Green Jersey, time trial and youth jersey domination!!!

Wow, that's beast. Hope for you that its a variant with a lot of TT km Wink
Kelderman deserves more support in the mountains, though Pfft
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TheManxMissile
Jesleyh wrote:
Wow, that's beast. Hope for you that its a variant with a lot of TT km Wink
Kelderman deserves more support in the mountains, though Pfft

If not, i'll change it to one... or quickly whip one up Wink

In other team news: Boonen and Cancellara are both at Quickstep... whos cobble team goes 82, 81, 79, 79, 79, 78, 76, 73 Frown Sagan has his work cut out if he is to bag his first cobbled classic...
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Jesleyh
TheManxMissile wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Wow, that's beast. Hope for you that its a variant with a lot of TT km Wink
Kelderman deserves more support in the mountains, though Pfft

If not, i'll change it to one... or quickly whip one up Wink

In other team news: Boonen and Cancellara are both at Quickstep... whos cobble team goes 82, 81, 79, 79, 79, 78, 76, 73 Frown Sagan has his work cut out if he is to bag his first cobbled classic...

Well, it shouldn't take too long till they start declining, Boonen should be 34 and turn 35 in 2015.
What's Sagan's COB value at atm?

I'll post a transfer update from my ING - Shell team soon, when the team for next season is finished.

Never experienced a battle for promotion to PCT this close. Still 40th spot on CQ ranking, I keep switching between 38th-41th though...
End of August + September races should maybe make the differences, with a lot of guys of other teams probably having too much race-days, and I having a few 2.1 & 2.2 races planned.
Anyway, my transfer policy is now fixed on promotion, so it would be awful if I don't promote. Frown
Edited by Jesleyh on 20-05-2013 16:34
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TheManxMissile
Sagan: CB80 FL79 HL81 SP79 AC82 STA80 RES77... so standard Sagan Pfft

Good luck on promotion, its always tight getting into PCT but once your there staying at PCT shouldn't be too tough
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Jesleyh
ING - Shell

Still in promotion battle. Got a bit more steady in the 40th place, after domination Tour Alsace. Man, Wellens developed in a CT legend. Nr 39, Atlas, jumped away from me though, with a 3rd place on a 1.HC race(or 1.1, not sure). So gap to 39th(Caja Rujal) is now 40 points. Not huge.
More worrying is that the nr. 41 is MTN - Quebeka(playing with stats update), and they're only 50 points behind, so Ciolek can bring them back to 40th with 1 nice race. Hope he doesn't ride Vuelta Sad
1 August now, so neo-pro's have arrived.

Transfers
4 Neo-pro's(well, actually 5, but 1 fired immediately Pfft) arrived, 3 Belgians, 1 Dutchie. All quite promising, whom 1 okay-ish, 1 good and 2 really promising, I consider posting them in the talent thread later on.

But now the known names:

1. Tosh v/d Sande(22).
He developed nicely to a 74 SP. Got 2 good sprinters now, along with Groenewegen(73 SP already, can see him developing to 74SP before end of season, he's on fire).

2. Steve Chainel(29).
First non-BeNeLux guy on the team. Planning to make French the third(if you count Luxembourg, 4th) nationality of the team, signing some French neos and talents next season, potentially.
Steve Chainel is of course great for the cobbles, and also is quite known, sponsor will like that. This signing turns De Bie in a helper for next season, but just for then, since De Bie probably has more potential.

3. Tom Dumoulin(23).
Great to have him at the team. Relatively low salary paid, but developed nicely, and was already a good rider.
Is now on 71 MO, 74HI, 74TT, 74PRL and 69COB. Very all-around. If promoted to PCT, I hope we can get Ardennes Wildcards, so he can give that a try. Probably a lot of potential, he got a lot in most of my careers Wink

And, at last, the biggest signing, an oldie, but goldie Wink

4. Christophe Le Mevel(32).
Huge reputation. Makes my sponsor happy Wink
Paid more for him than I hoped, but I wanted a good, famous, climber, and I was too late to sign an alternative.
74MO & 74HI, can be key to survive in PCT(again, if I promote Frown)

That's it.
Keep you informed on promotion battle, really hope I make it.
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eple
I'd like to start a new career but can't seem to pick a team I'm happy with. Any suggestions? I'm using the PCMdaily 2013 DB and I want to start in UCI Tour.

First attempt I went with Euskatel Euskadi. I split up the team in 3 deciding to send Sanchez to TdF, GP el Vasco + early classics, Team Anton to Giro + fall classics and Team Nieve to Down Under, Paris-Nice + Vuelta. I was kinda disappointed with the team though. Aside from these 3 riders there are not many good climbers. They have a ton of below average sprinters though, but I enjoy riding for the GC a whole lot more. I managed 4th in Down Under, but Paris-Nice Nieve lost too much in TT. I kinda doubt that I'll be able to challenge for the grand tours with Sanchez and Anton when I don't have any good helpers on the final climbs. Should I rather start fresh and focus on two grand tours with a strong team, rather then splitting them up too much?

On 2nd attempt I tried Team Blanco, but they seem a bit too powerful. I'd like a challenge, but I don't want to climb the mountains with a team that's made up of 50% sprinters Smile

 
Ian Butler
If you're looking mainly for climbers, Euskaltel is definitely the way to go Pfft But you say you already tried that.
Other than that, Sky has a great mountain squad, but if you thought Blanco was too strong already, well...
 
TheManxMissile
Apart from Euskaltel you're going to struggle for a climbing focused team regardless of power. Behind them its Sky, Blanco, Lampre, Katusha, SaxoBank and Astana...
Of those Lampre wold be your best bet as they are climbing focused and with a large potential for change and developement. Most of their leaders are aging allowing you to customise your future direction in any way you want. Plus it makes you focus on Italy and the Giro which i always like
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eple
Cheers guys.. I had a look at Lampre. They look like they might be a fun challenge. Maybe a top 3 in Giro and Vuelta with Scarponi is conceivable, a few decent positions in cobble-races with Pozzato and some stage wins with their best puchers and sprinters. The age on some of them worry me a bit though.

Is Garmin Sharp a good challenge? Looks like a very balanced squad that can do well in any sort of tour or day race.
 
maxime86
Made custom Team In-n-Out Original Joes, started i the PCT last year bt now were up the world tour, finished third i P-R with Offredo, after he was in a break before being cought by Boonen and Cance, Talasky now has a 79 in TT so went with him tothe Giro and too a second place.

other guys on my team are Mattt Crowshaw, Tejay Van Garderen, Tony Gallopin, Tayor Phinney, Marcel Kittel, Jackson rodriquez, Jonthan Monslave, Segio Heno, andy and Ben Jacque maynes, Fabio Duarte and Dombrowski.

However next year we will become Walmart cycing, so I hope to bring in Ryder Hesjedal and some more american riders
 
Jesleyh
eple wrote:
Cheers guys.. I had a look at Lampre. They look like they might be a fun challenge. Maybe a top 3 in Giro and Vuelta with Scarponi is conceivable, a few decent positions in cobble-races with Pozzato and some stage wins with their best puchers and sprinters. The age on some of them worry me a bit though.

Is Garmin Sharp a good challenge? Looks like a very balanced squad that can do well in any sort of tour or day race.

Yeah, Lampre is a bit old, but Scarponi is the only climber that starts declining within the first 3 seasons, and you can easily do some transfers. Wink

And Garmin is a nice team to do a career with, for sure.
Edited by Jesleyh on 21-05-2013 15:03
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eple
Jesleyh wrote:
Yeah, Lampre is a bit old, but Scarponi is the only climber that starts declining within the first 3 seasons, and you can easily do some transfers. Wink

And Garmin is a nice team to do a career with, for sure.


Alright, is it set like that in the DB? I thought the start of decline in stats was largely random, or decided upon game start?
 
Jesleyh
eple wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Yeah, Lampre is a bit old, but Scarponi is the only climber that starts declining within the first 3 seasons, and you can easily do some transfers. Wink

And Garmin is a nice team to do a career with, for sure.


Alright, is it set like that in the DB? I thought the start of decline in stats was largely random, or decided upon game start?

Age 34. Set in every DB, also original I think.
Although people with current Age 38 get Age 39 set, Age 36 get Age 37 set etc, to limit the decline at the first year.
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eple
Thanks, I went with Lampre - Merida. Weaker leaders compared to Euskatel, but I like the squad a whole lot more.

Had a surprising start in Tour Down Under. Sent Palini, Ulissi and Richeze with a few of the weakest riders and didn't really expect much. Came back with 5 stage wins (Ulissi x 3, Richeze x 2) and three 2nd places. Ulissi won GC and sprinters jersey(and youth jersey obv). He lost the climbers jersey on the last stage, but all in all absolutely fantastic start.

I guess I got my guys more fit than what the AI managed!

 
lluuiiggii
Jesleyh wrote:
Age 34. Set in every DB, also original I think.

Nah, PCMDaily DB. Original has most riders in 33, but several of them with 32, 31, 30 or even 29 (and some with more than 33 ofc).
 
Jesleyh
lluuiiggii wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Age 34. Set in every DB, also original I think.

Nah, PCMDaily DB. Original has most riders in 33, but several of them with 32, 31, 30 or even 29 (and some with more than 33 ofc).

Oh okay. Guess I'm so fixed on the Daily DB, that I can't think of other options anymore Pfft
But is the original randomized or just set limits per rider?
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lluuiiggii
Jesleyh wrote:
lluuiiggii wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Age 34. Set in every DB, also original I think.

Nah, PCMDaily DB. Original has most riders in 33, but several of them with 32, 31, 30 or even 29 (and some with more than 33 ofc).

Oh okay. Guess I'm so fixed on the Daily DB, that I can't think of other options anymore Pfft
But is the original randomized or just set limits per rider?

It's set per rider in the DB, but if you're asking how did they get to these values, then my guess is randomized Pfft (Hesjedal has age of decline of 30 - career big win came with 31)
 
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