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| issoisso |
Posted on 28-01-2013 20:53
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Schleck96 wrote:
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Unexpected? It was quite public back then, they made big offers to many big names such as Nibali, Cunego, Gilbert.
Aquarius wrote:
Team Blanco is investigating LLS relationships with Dr Fuentes around 2006.
It's assumed he was his "patient" at that time, while riding for Liberty-Seguros.
Yep, because the name "L. Sánchez" clearly written in the Puerto documents could've been anyone.
7 years later. Pathetic.
Testing Armstrong samples and other stuff 7+ years later isn't pathetic but this thing is? Nice logic
2 things, fanboy:
1. I never said testing Armstrong's samples 6 years later (not 7, get your facts straight) wasn't pathetic. Don't put words in my mouth
2. The Armstrong case was far more pathetic. They re-tested the samples just to improve the testing methods and did their best to keep who the samples belonged to under wraps.
If it wasn't for Damien Ressiot blowing the lid on the whole scandal it would've been buried so deep we still wouldn't know about it to this day
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 28-01-2013 21:02
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Fanboy? Did I in any word of that comment defend Armstrong? No I didn't.
1- I didn't say that you said this or that and I didn't say anything directly to you or to anyone in this forum, just in general.
2- I don't give a flying f*** if they re-tested the samples to improve this or that. They did it and that's all that matters.
Edited by Schleck96 on 28-01-2013 21:03
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| issoisso |
Posted on 28-01-2013 21:04
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Schleck96 wrote:
Fanboy? Did I in any word of that comment defend Armstrong? No I didn't.
Not in that one, no
Schleck96 wrote:
1- I didn't say that you said this or that and I didn't say anything directly to you or to anyone in this forum, just in general.
Yes you did. You commended my "great logic", implying that I had made stated it.
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2- I don't give a flying f*** if they re-tested the samples to improve this or that. They did it and that's all that matters.
So, you're agreeing you were wrong?
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 28-01-2013 21:07
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issoisso wrote:
Schleck96 wrote:
Fanboy? Did I in any word of that comment defend Armstrong? No I didn't.
Not in that one, no
Schleck96 wrote:
1- I didn't say that you said this or that and I didn't say anything directly to you or to anyone in this forum, just in general.
Yes you did. You commended my "great logic", implying that I had made stated it.
Schleck96 wrote:
2- I don't give a flying f*** if they re-tested the samples to improve this or that. They did it and that's all that matters.
So, you're agreeing you were wrong?
1- If you thought it was to you then you thought in a wrong way, I'm not the one to blame for that. Maybe you assumed it was too you because it is a really shittly logic.
2- I'm wrong in what? I just know that they re-tested those samples and used them many years later. And that's it, |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 28-01-2013 21:49
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Come back when you know what argument you're trying to make 
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| Crommy |
Posted on 28-01-2013 21:59
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So, the UCI disband the Independent Commission, and will launch their own Truth and Reconciliation Commission(TRC) instead
https://www.cyclin...commission
The UCI stated it would launch the TRC "later this year" and once it was complete a report would be published "in full".
In other news, Pope still Catholic
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| ShortsNL |
Posted on 28-01-2013 22:11
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issoisso wrote:
Come back when you know what argument you're trying to make
The argument he's trying to make is that launching an investigation revolving around events that happened 6-7 years in the past is almost common practice in today's world of cycling, and therefore your statement that it's 'pathetic' seems out of place.
Also, I don't quite see how what he posted makes him a fanboy, nor of whom. It sounds in fact like a pointless ad hominem.
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 28-01-2013 22:39
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ShortsNL wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Come back when you know what argument you're trying to make
The argument he's trying to make is that launching an investigation revolving around events that happened 6-7 years in the past is almost common practice in today's world of cycling, and therefore your statement that it's 'pathetic' seems out of place.
Also, I don't quite see how what he posted makes him a fanboy, nor of whom. It sounds in fact like a pointless ad hominem.
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 28-01-2013 22:57
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ShortsNL wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Come back when you know what argument you're trying to make
The argument he's trying to make is that launching an investigation revolving around events that happened 6-7 years in the past is almost common practice in today's world of cycling, and therefore your statement that it's 'pathetic' seems out of place.
Also, I don't quite see how what he posted makes him a fanboy, nor of whom. It sounds in fact like a pointless ad hominem.
Sorry but no. He compared the LL Sanchez situation with the re-testing of Armstrong's samples. You can't put the 2 in the same bag because they've got nothing to do with each other.
Get this: nobody is re-testing anything in this LL Sanchez case, they're just 'researching' data which has been known since the Operacion Puerto scandal
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 28-01-2013 23:10
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I guess that you misreadead. I compared the time that has passed since the ending of the Operacion Puerto with the time that had passed on the Armstrong case. Not the situation itself. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 28-01-2013 23:12
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7 years = 12 years?
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 28-01-2013 23:26
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Crommy wrote:
So, the UCI disband the Independent Commission, and will launch their own Truth and Reconciliation Commission(TRC) instead
https://www.cyclin...commission
The UCI stated it would launch the TRC "later this year" and once it was complete a report would be published "in full".
In other news, Pope still Catholic
In 2 months: "TRC goes rogue. UCI threatens disbandment"
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| fickman |
Posted on 28-01-2013 23:38
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Crommy wrote:
So, the UCI disband the Independent Commission, and will launch their own Truth and Reconciliation Commission(TRC) instead
https://www.cyclin...commission
The UCI stated it would launch the TRC "later this year" and once it was complete a report would be published "in full".
In other news, Pope still Catholic
They almost make me cry. They really belive someone is going to belive they are searching the truth??? If u dont know anything about cycling u can even think WADA and USADA are the bad guys the way UCI made that bulletin. |
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 28-01-2013 23:49
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Schleck96 wrote:
I guess that you misreadead. I compared the time that has passed since the ending of the Operacion Puerto with the time that had passed on the Armstrong case. Not the situation itself.
Sorry mate but you're taking this the wrong way. If you want to overlook why these 2 different situations surfaced then imo there's no point in comparing them as identical.
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| The-Pot |
Posted on 29-01-2013 00:52
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So much fun watching two portuguese arguing with each other in english. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 29-01-2013 07:43
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The-Pot wrote:
So much fun watching two portuguese arguing with each other in english.
Correction: three Portugese 
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 29-01-2013 08:56
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Yeah, come on, it's good. Everyone meant something totally different, just don't kill each other okay? |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 29-01-2013 10:35
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1...1/21240896
I'll put this here as it is about cycling for the most part.
I found it interesting at least
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| Crommy |
Posted on 29-01-2013 13:44
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Royal Spanish Cycling Federation (RFEC) call on the Spanish Sports Council to exempt Alberto Contador from the Operation Puerto investigations
https://inrng.tumb...sh-cycling
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 29-01-2013 14:02
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https://twitpic.com/bxkxiz
And a question: Vicioso has never been suspended right?
EDIT: Looked again. The arrow from LLS also comes from AC so they both took the same as JJ.
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