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2013 Vuelta a Espana - Week 3 (8th September - 15th September)
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| Setzel |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:22
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Mwuhi wrote:
kubys wrote:
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Setzel wrote:
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So, now please explain me what is the problem with the Horner's preformance. He is just better in shape then the rest, till he got busted on some stuff. And as far as I know, he didn't get caught this Vuelta, so... And of c. it's hard to believe that he can stands right up, but well if you train on that style, well then you will do it as easy as someone else is sitting while climbing. Just another style.
Ahaha , standing tall and not in the saddle is not aerodynamic he looses per 100 meter in speed bc of that and he is stil the best 
Yes but standing tall means better way to turn the pedles.
Have you ever been on bicycle? How you can say, that you turn pedals better standing than sitting in saddle? 
Well, when climbing of course, you can put more power when you stand.
Wrong again , its all Watts power of the cyclist , in the saddle you can paddle quicker and aerodynamic so you gain speed and no friction with the air , in the "tall" mode u gain more power because of the longer stroke to paddle but its also longer to do that and get a lof of friction , so normally you loose power doing that , thats why you attack and then saddle and push, not stay 15 km out of the saddle and attack.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:22
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Those speaking about Heras' Angliru record: Horner is 3 (!) years older than Heras 
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| Mwuhi |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:24
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Nin1388 wrote:
Mwuhi wrote:
So, now please explain me what is the problem with the Horner's preformance. He is just better in shape then the rest, till he got busted on some stuff. And as far as I know, he didn't get caught this Vuelta, so... And of c. it's hard to believe that he can stands right up, but well if you train on that style, well then you will do it as easy as someone else is sitting while climbing. Just another style.
Sprinting up a mountain is not a style. Its EPO.
He is beating guys like Nibali/Valverde/Purito who are best climbers easily and it has more to do than just fatigue.
This guy has constantly defended Armstrong and his ways. For me there was no 2013 Vuelta winner just like TdF 1999-2005.
So? Because someone is beter then those guys for now, he can't be clean?
@Setzel: That's probably why he trains on that style of cycling, to be able to do that longer. That's where training is for.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:25
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Spilak23 wrote:
Those speaking about Heras' Angliru record: Horner is 3 (!) years older than Heras
Don't worry. He'll still beat that time tough. |
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| Cyanide266 |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:26
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Spilak23 wrote:
Those speaking about Heras' Angliru record: Horner is 3 (!) years older than Heras
He was 26 when he made his record not 41 |
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| kubys |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:27
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Mwuhi wrote:
kubys wrote:
Mwuhi wrote:
Setzel wrote:
Mwuhi wrote:
So, now please explain me what is the problem with the Horner's preformance. He is just better in shape then the rest, till he got busted on some stuff. And as far as I know, he didn't get caught this Vuelta, so... And of c. it's hard to believe that he can stands right up, but well if you train on that style, well then you will do it as easy as someone else is sitting while climbing. Just another style.
Ahaha , standing tall and not in the saddle is not aerodynamic he looses per 100 meter in speed bc of that and he is stil the best
Yes but standing tall means better way to turn the pedles.
Have you ever been on bicycle? How you can say, that you turn pedals better standing than sitting in saddle?
Well, when climbing of course, you can put more power when you stand.
You just pushing harder, but that doesn't mean, that you pushing it better. I'm not any frequency freak, 'cause obviously you can have same frequency off saddle, like on saddle, but in this case you're wasting much more energy, because you are obviously making much more power output... But well, yes Horner is fresher, so he can waste his energy and going like a retard all the way uphill...
Edited by kubys on 12-09-2013 17:28
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| Setzel |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:28
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You can't do that have you ever tried to ride not on saddle on uphil for long time ? Your legs just cramp like hell , there is a reason not even Lance did that shit
I know he is eager to get a contract and he went all in either retire and win vuelta , or get a contract since Vuelta is notorious for relaxed doping stance
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:31
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Horner is the mentally retarded little brother of Froome. |
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:33
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Selwink wrote:
The only positive thing about this stage is that I won my bet 
I think there's a lot more "positive"
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| coutas98 |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:34
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Miguel98 wrote:
Still no rain. Sigh. Horner has this. I'll shall kill myself after Froome and Horner. And at the Tour we're already rootting for an exciting Vuelta.
I still believe Valverde's winning. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:38
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Let's dance in style, let's dance for a while
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:39
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Btw I'm going to ask: was Horner always that skinny? |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:41
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Miguel98 wrote:
Btw I'm going to ask: was Horner always that skinny?
Yup. And he went to McDonalds on the rest day
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:42
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Spilak23 wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Btw I'm going to ask: was Horner always that skinny?
Yup. And he went to McDonalds on the rest day
Thanks Spilak. And he went to McDonalds? Lol. 2013 shall be a good year in the cycling history, doping wise ofc. |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:54
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Mwuhi wrote:
So, now please explain me what is the problem with the Horner's preformance. He is just better in shape then the rest, till he got busted on some stuff. And as far as I know, he didn't get caught this Vuelta, so... And of c. it's hard to believe that he can stands right up, but well if you train on that style, well then you will do it as easy as someone else is sitting while climbing. Just another style.
The Problem with Horner is the same you would have if a 20 year old beatle beat Audi in le mans.
I know WC is coming but this is just ridiculous |
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 12-09-2013 17:59
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I don't believe what I'm seeing, that's usually not a good sign. |
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| kubys |
Posted on 12-09-2013 18:00
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But I think Riccardo Riccó like this. It gives him a hope.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 12-09-2013 18:03
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Nin1388 wrote:
There goes the last little bit of hope I still had of Nibali holding on
Jesus, this has been a dark year...
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 12-09-2013 18:08
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Jesus, this has been a dark year...
It's called clean cycling.
In the dark days atleast the Santi Perez', Sella's and Rasmussens got taken out.
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| ryant |
Posted on 12-09-2013 18:08
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Horner... what a legend...
I mean, this guy has shown massive potential at such a young age (man, 42 is the new 22) and he is just in the form of his life. He's a born Grand Tour contender (having a great 10th place in the TDF over a 20 year career) I don't see why you guys hate him? He is such a great rider, I love the way he always smiles when he climbs, a true gentleman.
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