Wiggins saw him coming from 10 yards away he could of just simply moved out of the way and let the guy run by, but no he had to be a dic and nearly break his (what looks to be) very expensive camera. The cameraman couldn't help it he is trying to run and get a good shot of Sagan at the same time.
Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring.
CLURPR wrote:
Do you want me to whack you round the head with a big camera then?
Yes, of course, Wiggins had not stopped, the camera man had not gone round him when he noticed he was in Wiggins' way and Wiggins was in complete danger. The camera man intentions were clearly to whack Wiggins in the head, luckily Wiggins managed to avoid it. Ffs.
Wiggins had stopped because the cameraman did not even look where he was going and didn't look in Wiggins direction. If he hadn't of pulled the camera down, he would have been hit by the camera. I'm not saying he was trying to hit him with it, but if Wiggins hadn't done something, he would have been hit.
My original point: the whole world does not need to look all the time if they're walking into Wiggins way, so if it happens that Wiggins needs to stop because someone else is doing his job and gets into Wiggins way for 3 seconds, there's no reason for Wiggins to hit the guy's camera. Notice: the camera man did go round Wiggins as soon as he saw it, and there's no way Wiggins would be hit by the camera. Just look at how extended Wiggins' arm is in order for him to reach the camera. It's not easy to run together with someone on a bike holding such a big camera, and Wiggins only wanted to give the camera man some more trouble.
lluuiiggii wrote:
If they were on different teams they wouldn't be dominating together (without going into the doping stuff; one wouldn't have the "scientific training" and "hard work" the other has).
That's where the "training" argument, both of Armstrong and Sky falls short.
I don't exactly know what they do while they train, but I'm sure it's all very common in the end. It's just how the different well-known exercises (and how many of them) are put together one after the other that might do a difference.
Funnily enough, all riders leaving such teams suddenly forget how to train properly. I know cyclists are often idiots, but still...
CLURPR wrote:
Do you want me to whack you round the head with a big camera then?
Yes, of course, Wiggins had not stopped, the camera man had not gone round him when he noticed he was in Wiggins' way and Wiggins was in complete danger. The camera man intentions were clearly to whack Wiggins in the head, luckily Wiggins managed to avoid it. Ffs.
Wiggins had stopped because the cameraman did not even look where he was going and didn't look in Wiggins direction. If he hadn't of pulled the camera down, he would have been hit by the camera. I'm not saying he was trying to hit him with it, but if Wiggins hadn't done something, he would have been hit.
My original point: the whole world does not need to look all the time if they're walking into Wiggins way, so if it happens that Wiggins needs to stop because someone else is doing his job and gets into Wiggins way for 3 seconds, there's no reason for Wiggins to hit the guy's camera. Notice: the camera man did go round Wiggins as soon as he saw it, and there's no way Wiggins would be hit by the camera. Just look at how extended Wiggins' arm is in order for him to reach the camera. It's not easy to run together with someone on a bike holding such a big camera, and Wiggins only wanted to give the camera man some more trouble.
This. And again, Wiggins should think a little, because if there are no people with cameras everywhere, he would be riding the bike for free and not for money. Stupid prick
lluuiiggii wrote:
If they were on different teams they wouldn't be dominating together (without going into the doping stuff; one wouldn't have the "scientific training" and "hard work" the other has).
That's where the "training" argument, both of Armstrong and Sky falls short.
I don't exactly know what they do while they train, but I'm sure it's all very common in the end. It's just how the different well-known exercises (and how many of them) are put together one after the other that might do a difference.
Funnily enough, all riders leaving such teams suddenly forget how to train properly. I know cyclists are often idiots, but still...
Still, on a dutch show yesterday the Garmin trainer (van Diemen) said they know about some techniques that Sky uses, but they don't have the money to do this as well.
Another big difference between Armstrong and Wiggins is the amount of races they did. Armstrong raced a lot less in the years where he won the Tour, while Wiggins has been slowly preparing all year. I can hardly imagine Wiggins being doped up to his ears all year long beating everyone without getting caught or anything. Don't even mean a positive test, but just people that get caught with the stuff. If you look at what Wiggins did after the Tour in 2011 this result can hardly be a surprise.
(without going into the doping stuff; one wouldn't have the "scientific training" and "hard work" the other has).
