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| df_Trek |
Posted on 15-07-2021 17:54
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alexkr00 wrote:
Actually now that I think about it more, the system shouldn't be a mix between the old one and the new one.
Drop the double points on the final climb or whatever the rule is now at all.
Give really big points on the big climbs such as Ventoux or Tourmalet. But big points only to like the first three with a good gap between them as well. That way you make you sure the jersey goes to someone who actually goes for it and can also be first at the top of the very big climbs, not just a points hunter.
totally agree here
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 15-07-2021 18:04
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alexkr00 wrote:
Actually now that I think about it more, the system shouldn't be a mix between the old one and the new one.
Drop the double points on the final climb or whatever the rule is now at all.
Give really big points on the big climbs such as Ventoux or Tourmalet. But big points only to like the first three with a good gap between them as well. That way you make you sure the jersey goes to someone who actually goes for it and can also be first at the top of the very big climbs, not just a points hunter.
Could be a good solution. Think this was the intended point of having HC/1/2/3/4 categorization, but it feels as if many 1c climbs are vastly different from one another in terms of challenge (as are HCs), so this may be something they can rectify by taking a closer look at how climbs are assigned in general. Perhaps I'm wrong in my comparisons, but Peyresourde alone is a junior Tourmalet, but has the same classification in this race as Saisies, which is 5k shorter and less challenging in grade, especially at the top. Same goes for Luz, as I think Trek mentioned, which is a much less intense climb than Tourmalet, Portet, even arguably Montee Tignes, if we want to use strictly this years ascents.
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| kubys |
Posted on 16-07-2021 08:28
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Everybody was moaning about Virenque's last 2 KOMs almost 20 years ago, when he was just hunting points, now we have conversation in opposite guard. For me the bigger problem is that guys who're battling for KOM jersey through the race are almost always non-factor in GC. Therefore I am kinda glad for double points when there's mountain finish.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 16-07-2021 09:11
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I would argue Pogacar easily won the two mountain finishes, so it's not a bad thing he gets the jersey. It's definitely better than Charteau was or Poels would be.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 16-07-2021 09:13
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Miguel Angel Lopez won't start today stage, not that this will affect somehow the race until Paris 
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 16-07-2021 12:51
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Thomas crashed already twice today. What's wrong with you, G 
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 16-07-2021 13:56
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df_Trek wrote:
Thomas crashed already twice today. What's wrong with you, G
man is the king of kissing pavement, he and all of Crashobank :v
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 16-07-2021 14:32
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Another planned break victory...SNORE
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 16-07-2021 14:33
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Cav wants his record in Paris.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 16-07-2021 15:01
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Jeez, I guess he's still just as arrogant as ever. He realizes if he loses that sprint that might be it for the record, right? He can't just assume he's gonna come back next year against the actual best sprinters and win again.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 16-07-2021 15:18
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Jeez, I guess he's still just as arrogant as ever. He realizes if he loses that sprint that might be it for the record, right? He can't just assume he's gonna come back next year against the actual best sprinters and win again.
More likely he's tired after the mountains, same for the team around him. Take an extra day or two to rest, then all they need to do is a shorter effort in Paris. Much more likely they can control that and give Cav the best chance to win, whereas today they'd be under huge attack and at real risk of Matthews/Colbrelli snatching huge points.
Cav and QS aren't idiots, or that arrogant. They have enough experience to know their best bet at a 5th Stage win, the Green, and the record is one big go on the Champs-Elysees.
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| withoutnonsense |
Posted on 16-07-2021 15:32
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It's decided anyway. Pogacar wins the U25 mountain classification and the overall classification. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 16-07-2021 15:42
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What is that tactics of Trek. Shut down every move but don't contribute to any!?
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 16-07-2021 15:43
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What are the chances of having two solo rouleur stage victories in the same race?
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 16-07-2021 15:52
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 16-07-2021 15:54
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nothing fishy in Slovenia idk what you're talking about 
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 16-07-2021 16:01
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Perhaps the dumbest celebration one can do |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 16-07-2021 16:03
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Great time to be a Slovenian on Bahrain.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 16-07-2021 16:29
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More likely just an annoyed response more than a direct imitation (i hope!). But it's definitely one way to not win yourself fans, and to keep the conversation on doping instead of wins.
Right, onto Tadope Drugacar going radioactive in the TT
[as i always say, much easier to assume they are all on drugs and just enjoy it]
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| Shonak |
Posted on 16-07-2021 16:42
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I like Mohoric but what a dumb celebration. The great cycling nation now with 5 stage wins, soon 6 Totally legit.
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