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[2024] Stat Gains, XP, Team Info, Wildcards, Point Scales
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 27-05-2025 06:03
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Just a note to mention that six teams missed the deadline, including three already disbanded teams, two teams in disband danger and one 'active' team (no contact till now).
Talents from all disbanded teams will be leveled up (a few might be skipped in the inflation fight). However, the talents of the active team will gain a year in age but not level up or receive statgains.
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| SotD |
Posted on 27-05-2025 08:31
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Can we get the team name? We will see it in the DB regardless, but some teams with specific nationality focus could be inflicted from this I suppose.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 27-05-2025 08:40
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We should get a rule in place for this. Like SotD worries, i share them. It would be nice to have a rule that states if a team disbands or misses the deadline, the rider automatiicly gets "Fighter" assigned or something like that.
It punishes but at the same time the rider develops.
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| knockout |
Posted on 27-05-2025 08:56
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hillis91 wrote:
We should get a rule in place for this. Like SotD worries, i share them. It would be nice to have a rule that states if a team disbands or misses the deadline, the rider automatiicly gets "Fighter" assigned or something like that.
It punishes but at the same time the rider develops.
id prefer if they stopped developing at .99 and dont gain a level.
Adds some diversity to the FA classes as the occasional higher XP / easy to develop talent can be found and stops the Azteca case from a regional focussed team disbanding stunting too much on the development from a certain region.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 27-05-2025 08:58
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I second knockout's solution.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Nemolito |
Posted on 27-05-2025 09:00
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As Abhishek said above, "just like last season, talents from disbanding teams will either be leveled up (with statgain), or will not receive a statgain, but level up. This way we can both make sure Azteca doesn't happen again, whereas also not creating too many talents for the amount of teams 
There is a rule in place for an actual active team that misses the statgain deadline, as their talents just miss a year but stay at the same xp. So they still have the same talent, but miss an entire year. I think that's a fair punishment.
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 27-05-2025 09:21
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I also back Knockout's proposal that any talent that would have gained a level gets capped at .99, they miss the level up but basically get it for free the following season so the rider isn't effected too badly but still takes a setback.
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| Heine |
Posted on 27-05-2025 10:59
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I second the .99 suggestion. They loose a year but "we" other managers have an easier time if we pick them up
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 27-05-2025 13:34
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I'd be good with either the .99 suggestion or assigning fighter. I think either way it should be a setback, but not make the riders completely useless.
I admit I was wrong about this in the original inflation-fighting discussions we had a few years ago, which led to Azteca.
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 27-05-2025 13:40
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Also like the .99 solution - a minor ‘punishment’ for the rider, but they can still level up and gain stats as they would have and just lose a year at their peak.
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 28-05-2025 02:14
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I don't think losing a level makes a rider useless - two victims of the Azteca fall out are Barta and Tivani, yeah neither of them are great but both have generally have rides and they look a little different. Also, sometimes riders don't develop the way you think, nothing wrong with that, not sure "punishing" the rider is that big a deal.
So I like the Fighter solution, but not the 99, that is just missing an opportunity to create dynamism in the db. But I am also fine with the solution Nemo outlined.
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| whitejersey |
Posted on 28-05-2025 09:09
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.99 is by far the best solution to this issue in my mind.
Also as the "Barta creator", my suggestion was more or less the 1 to 1 added to the DB at the time him losing that year made him become a much worse rider and would have been an incredibly cool training target if he hadn't lost his development :/
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 28-05-2025 09:17
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Think the problem with Azteca's time was that those riders lost both a year and also leveled up with no gains. That hasn't been happening from last season. Even this time, talents from disbanded teams are either being leveled up normally or they are just being increased in age, but not in level. The latter still allows the rider to become the way they were intended, just a year later.
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