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Dusen
This one could be for Uran. 60km ITT.

Won't bee easy for Contador
 
Nin1388
Dusen wrote:
This one could be for Uran. 60km ITT.

Won't bee easy for Contador


The more Uran improves in TT more he will suffer on mountains. And with Nibali and Contador it will not be easy like this year for him.
Edited by Nin1388 on 06-10-2014 15:38
 
Alakagom
Cossack wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
In other news, Gazetta (and logically speaking all) think Maxim will confess to doping on Monday or Tuesday. This allows Astana to race Tour of Almaty ( only pro Kazakh race ) and will mean they don't have to miss the season opener at Tour Down Under, since they will serve their suspension on the next WT race, being Tour of Bejing.

On the other hand I heard that there is an important cooperation between Kazakhstan and China, so they don't want to miss Beijing because of those publicity/political reasons and would rather try to postpone the B sample analysis so they will skip TDU.


Told you Wink

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Riis123
So they just revealed the route and it is indeed easier than previous years. It should be very close until the last week and the long ITT. The Giro that is, btw.
Edited by Riis123 on 06-10-2014 16:37
 
Dusen
Nin1388 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
This one could be for Uran. 60km ITT.

Won't bee easy for Contador


The more Uran improves in TT more he will suffer on mountains. And with Nibali and Contador it will not be easy like this year for him.


That statement is bull. Improving in TT doesn't neccesarily mean declining in once mountain skills.
 
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Giro Route - Profiles (click to enlarge) and some tidbits of analysis and thoughts:

Stage 1:
Spoiler
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Summary: TTT; meh.

Stage 2:
Spoiler
images2.gazzettaobjects.it/Giroditalia/2015/images/tappa/tappa_dettagli_tecnici_altimetria_02.jpg

Summary: Flat.

Stage 3:
Spoiler
images2.gazzettaobjects.it/Giroditalia/2015/images/tappa/tappa_dettagli_tecnici_altimetria_03.jpg

Summary: Has potential but doubt anyone would succesfully attack on the last climb

Stage 4:
Spoiler
images2.gazzettaobjects.it/Giroditalia/2015/images/tappa/tappa_dettagli_tecnici_altimetria_04.jpg

Summary: Very interesting hilly stage, especially early on, but quite short.

Stage 5:
Spoiler
images2.gazzettaobjects.it/Giroditalia/2015/images/tappa/tappa_dettagli_tecnici_altimetria_05.jpg

Summary: No San Pellegrino in Alpe = borefest.

Stage 6:
Spoiler
images2.gazzettaobjects.it/Giroditalia/2015/images/tappa/tappa_dettagli_tecnici_altimetria_06.jpg

Summary: Flat with a few bumps


Stage 7:
Spoiler
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Summary: Longest stage in a GT since 1995

Stage 8:
Spoiler
images2.gazzettaobjects.it/Giroditalia/2015/images/tappa/tappa_dettagli_tecnici_altimetria_08.jpg

Summary: Dull, consistent and not really steep MTF that doesn't really add anything.

Stage 9:
Spoiler
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Summary: Difficult hilly stage, should be interesting (although worthy of a Sunday?)





Stage 10:
Spoiler
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Summary: Flat

Stage 11:
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Summary: Breakaway

Stage 12:
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Summary: Murito; though last 30kms could potentially be interesting

Stage 13:
Spoiler
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Summary: Scheldeprijs, but flatter.

Stage 14:
Spoiler
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Summary: VERY long and probably pretty technical TT. Think TT from two years ago.
Stage 15:
Spoiler
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Summary: Already knew about this. Not a great MTF.





Stage 16:
Spoiler
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Summary: Pretty cool stage, nice to see Mortirolo - Aprica combo (even if overused blah blah) although all climbs bar Mortirolo are really not that steep so not as hard as it first looks

Stage 17:
Spoiler
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Summary: Waste of space, though there are worse flat stages.

Stage 18:
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Summary: A descent finish!! Climb is around 10km @ 9% so plenty of opportunity for things to happen here.

Stage 19:
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Summary: Decent, but could have been sooo much better.

Stage 20:
Spoiler
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Summary: See previous stage. No climbs before Finestre is criminal.

Stage 21:
Spoiler
images2.gazzettaobjects.it/Giroditalia/2015/images/tappa/tappa_dettagli_tecnici_altimetria_21.jpg

Summary: The usual parade.





Positives:
- First week in general looks really promising, a nice variety of stages
- 60km ITT!
- Verbania stage
- Mortirolo stage (a reluctant positive)
- It's quite balanced, for a change (in terms of Mountains-TT balance), pure climbers will need to attack, especially given the MTFs that are there.
- Seems less backloaded than several recent editions (although still is backloaded, but Giro always is to some extent)
- Mountain stages aren't all chained together, meaning that riders shouldn't be waiting for the last out of a trio etc.

Negatives:
- Opening TTT (TTTs are always a negative)
- Abetone without anything beforehand.
- Finestre stage could have been so much better.
- MTFs are all rather weak (this is probably a good thing, it's just the horrible memories of what happened the last time we had a GT with weak MTFs still reside in my brain)
- No real killer multi-mountain queen stage.


Overall, I'm actually quite pleased with the route. The organisers seem to have finally taken note of the worrying trend of 'leave everything till the last climb and attack with between 3km and 1km to go' and seem to have made a concerted effort to design stages that give the opportunity to attack before the final climb (Mortirolo + St-Panthaleon + Finestre etc). Also there seem to be some well-designed hilly stages in there (eg stage 4 + stage 9).

8/10 (an extremely generous mark by my standards)

Now we just have to see who turns up!
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Vamos Nairo! #SueñoAmarillo
 
deek12345
Valverde and contador wont race in Beijing
https://www.cyclin...nt-shimano
 
Miguel98
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tinko...our-rivals

:lol:
 
stenic


just give the money to Adam Hansen, he'll probably complete all 3 GT's yet again were as Contador, Nibali, Quintana, Froome et al will only ride 1 or 2.
 
deek12345
Looks like Andy schleck is about to retire ,press conference on Thursday,and there I thought he retired years ago Smile
Sorry can't get link to work .
 
roturn
Announcing his Cult signing?
Would be as big news as retirement I guess. :lol:
 
valverde321


yes
 
Nin1388
If that happens Horner will win Vuelta
 
Kirchen_75
Hope Andy retires. No point continuing this farce.
 
TheHoeke
Matthias Møller Nielsen takes a break from pro cycling for an unknown amount of time, since he has been diagnosed with cancer
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EPIC - Dylan Koemans and Hélder Martínez
 
TheHoeke
https://www.cyclin...ur-in-2015

MTN seems to be willing to join the WT next year...
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EPIC - Dylan Koemans and Hélder Martínez
 
Dippofix
Dippofix wrote:
Shonak wrote:
dienblad wrote:
The Tour de Suisse route of 2015 is known, and it features a mtf at the Rettenbachgletscher near Sölden: altitude of 2795m (!!!) and a killing climb of 14.7km at 9.8% average and 15% maximum. Probably one of the most difficult climbs in Europe (and the world)!!

https://www.procyc...uisse_2015

F Yeah! Count me in! Cool

See you there mate! Grin

Actually, scratch that. It's on a wednesday, during school time. Sad
 
Alakagom
Teams that applied for WT and PCT statuses revealed by UCI. 17 WT teams with no surprises. 3 new PCT teams, Cult, Roompot and Nippo Vini making 20 PCT teams.

* New Garmin and Cannondale merger team will be called - Cannondale Pro Cycling Team

* MTN and IAM maybe willing to join WT if UCI enquiries to them
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matt17br
Alakagom wrote:
Teams that applied for WT and PCT statuses revealed by UCI. 17 WT teams with no surprises. 3 new PCT teams, Cult, Roompot and Nippo Vini making 20 PCT teams.

* New Garmin and Cannondale merger team will be called - Cannondale Pro Cycling Team

* MTN and IAM maybe willing to join WT if UCI enquiries to them

Nah, IAM said that they prefer being a PCT team.
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Alakagom
matt17br wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Teams that applied for WT and PCT statuses revealed by UCI. 17 WT teams with no surprises. 3 new PCT teams, Cult, Roompot and Nippo Vini making 20 PCT teams.

* New Garmin and Cannondale merger team will be called - Cannondale Pro Cycling Team

* MTN and IAM maybe willing to join WT if UCI enquiries to them

Nah, IAM said that they prefer being a PCT team.


If UCI enquiries themselves you can't refuse too much though ;D

Europcar preferred to be a PCT last year until UCI asked them to step up. I am sure the benefits then outweigh staying in the PCT.
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