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Tour de Pologne 2013 (July 27 - August 3)
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| Rzrassman |
Posted on 23-07-2013 22:24
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I am a bit unsure that the Race Appeal rule will have any major effect on the GC in the 3 GT's.It may enduce a one day suicidal attack by some1 in the three week especially if the time gaps are more than a min.But the racing on the flats/hilly stages will be more interesting.
The Race Appeal innnovation will work better n more effectively if it is used together with the 6 Rider per team rule.The GC leader's team will be tested more,reliance on other teams helping out will be greater.
Even with such innovations I still don't think we will see any drastic changes in stage racing.Team Sky will have no big worries apart from the fact that the trains will be shorter(3-4 riders) which will still be more than good enough to beat other GC riders.Look at what damage Kennaugh,Porte did in this years TDF.Only change will might see is the pace on the mountains prior to the finishing summit will be slower than usual.
Echelons on flat or hilly stages might be encouraged but those missing-out will help out the race leaders team in chasing back.Recovery will probably be the most key factor now especially of the domestiques.
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| BritPCMFan |
Posted on 23-07-2013 23:41
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The train mainly breaks the rest of the peleton, not the really elite guys. Thats down to Porte then Froome (or equiv). They have less team-mates to drop, so less guy isn't really a problem.
It mainly hurts sprinters who need the guys to stay on/chase breakaways and can only push on certain terrain. It will hurt Cav/Griepel/Kittel far more then it will hurt Sky.
The time bonus thing will mainly help second rate GCers. The top guys won be able to use it, because they will get chased down and waste energy so won't bother. Its only guys who might actually be allowed to get away that will be able to take advantage of it.
Also, what about the stage finish points? Are they included too, cos if so half the time the guy that wins will take the aggressive jersey anyways since he will collect most points. |
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| wogsrus |
Posted on 24-07-2013 00:19
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Think the time bonuses will really confuse alot of people. Good to see something different though. |
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| Malkael |
Posted on 24-07-2013 15:24
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One confirmed change for Team Colombia - Coldeportes, with 205. Jarlinson Pantano Gomez replaced by 206. Jeffry Johan Romero Corredor (Quintero becomes #205). Have not noticed, or heard about, any other changes (yet).
I imagine Nibali will be most people's favourite to win the race overall. Anyone seeing any other riders doing particularly well? Obviously Sky are here too with a good line up, like Astana also preparing for Vuelta\World Champs. Pozzovivo arguably has the potential to do something in the mountains, but will he have the ability on the day. Not to forget the likes of Scarponi, Basso (or not), and others. |
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| Atlantius |
Posted on 25-07-2013 10:12
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| Housies |
Posted on 25-07-2013 10:22
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I'd say time for Anacona to explode, but the guy is returning from injury. Hope he can get back on track quickly enough.  Pity Kwiat is missing, he would have won this perhaps. 
Interesting parcours for him indeed.
But I guess the TdF was tough on him. And he will do well in san Sebastian where he has chances of a nice result with his sprint as well. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 25-07-2013 14:34
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Majka and Sorensen are strong.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| Hazard10 |
Posted on 25-07-2013 16:39
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Hope to see Elissonde doing well.
Edited by Hazard10 on 25-07-2013 16:39
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| Malkael |
Posted on 26-07-2013 16:53
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Stage 1 - Rovereto to Madonna di Campiglio (184.5km)
The 70th edition of the Tour de Pologne commences in the autonomous region of Trentino, Italy, for two stages traversing the infamous Dolomites of the Alps. Beginning within the city of Rovereto, the peloton will traverse a difficult 184.5km parcours to the Ski Resort of Madonna di Campiglio.
With three categorised climbs, and at least one significant uncategorised climb, Stage 1 shall favour the climbers and 'stage racers' within the peloton. The stage begins relatively easily for the peloton, as they cycle along the valleys towards the foot of the Category 1 Fai Della Paganella. After which the successive climbing will begin to take its toll, with the descents in to the next climb the only areas offering some rest.
Considering each and every cyclist shall begin equal on time, it will be interesting to see who is allowed to contest the 'Best Climber' and 'Most Active Rider' points on offer. With the 'Attractivity Contest' at stake, the General Classification contenders could very well be anxious about who is within breakaway. So at the conclusion of Stage 1, the two classifications could be led by some lesser known riders.
There will be several points up for grabs in the 'Best Climber', 'Most Active', and 'Attractivity Contest' classifications. With a total of 25 points on offer in the 'Best Climber' competition, and 9 points on offer in the 'Most Active' competition. Whilst it will have to been seen how the 'Attractivity Contest' will be decided, it has been said that the points earned at the various different sprint points on the road determine the competition standings.
Categorised Climbs of the Day
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In comparison to the climbs witnessed during the recent Tour de France. The climbs used by the Tour de Pologne have a tendency to be rough and inconsistent. The average gradient sometimes fails to truly convey the true difficulty of the climb. As the gradient can suddenly spike beyond 18% within a moment's notice for short periods.
Arguably, the favourites for the stage victory will wait for the final climb before launching their attack. However, the ascents of the Fai Della Paganella, Passo del Ballino, and the Passo del Durone will certainly fatigue the legs of the peloton which ever plan each team pursues.
At just over 10km in length, the Fai Della Paganella has an average gradient gradually grows from 6.5% up to 8.4%, before one kilometre from the summit at 1.2%. Whilst the Passo del Durone, five kilometres in length, plays havoc with average gradients with its rough ascent, with sections above 17%.
The ascent up the Madonna di Campiglio to the Ski Resort is 11km long, with an average gradient of between 6-7% for the initial nine kilometres. The final two kilometres of the stage flattens out as the peloton enter the Ski Resort, with the average gradient around 2.6%. Whilst not entirely flat, the approach in to the finish should suit those with a decent sprint finish from a select group.
Stage Favourite & Contenders
Choosing a favourite could be difficult, with various cyclists returning from a lengthy rest after the Giro d'Italia. Whilst others are just coming off a tough three weeks in the Tour de France, and could be in great form and shape if they maintained their peak from the third week. On paper however, it is difficult to not choose 2013 Giro d'Italia champion Vincenzo Nibali, of Astana.
As proven by various sports however, the stage and race overall will not be won on paper. There could be several challengers for Nibali, with several other riders also preparing for la Vuelta a Espana and the 2013 UCI Road World Championships in Tuscany. Team Sky Procycling come to the Tour de Pologne with a strong team for Henao, who is said to be Team Sky's leader for la Vuelta. Whilst Lampre-Merida have the talents of Michele Scarponi and Przemysław Niemiec.
A dark horse for the stage victory may be Domenico Pozzovivo, of AG2R Le Mondiale. However, while he may have the potential on paper, it will be very dependent on his form. Meanwile, the likes of young Rafał Majka, who rides for Team Saxo-Tinkoff, could also surprise, considering several of the Polish cyclists should be keen to perform well in their home race. Movistar are attending the Tour de Pologne without a standout leader, but have plenty of cards to play throughout the stage.
What a way to commence seven days of potentially thrilling cycling with two days and stages through the Dolomites. Will any sort of breakaway have much chance of surviving very far? The teams might be smaller, but no doubt no one of note will be allowed much leeway.
This will be our first opportunity to see the new rule changes in affect. Will they have any affect at all? We shall have to wait with bated breath. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2013 17:13
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Yaay turns out it's on eurosport after all (not live, at 22:45)
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| carmelobymelo |
Posted on 26-07-2013 18:09
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Malkael wrote:
One confirmed change for Team Colombia - Coldeportes, with 205. Jarlinson Pantano Gomez replaced by 206. Jeffry Johan Romero Corredor (Quintero becomes #205). Have not noticed, or heard about, any other changes (yet).
Pawel Franczak replaces injured Lukasz Wisniowski in Polish National Team.
issoisso wrote:
Yaay turns out it's on eurosport after all (not live, at 22:45)
There will be streams from polish tv.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2013 18:23
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carmelobymelo wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Yaay turns out it's on eurosport after all (not live, at 22:45)
There will be streams from polish tv.
But I don't want to listen to 2 hours of a commentator sounding like he's having a stroke
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| Cossack |
Posted on 26-07-2013 18:51
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Eurosport 2 will broadcast TdP also |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2013 18:54
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Indeed it will. The guide on the TV is wrong, the eurosport site says they will and that's more trustworthy
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| Maxvir |
Posted on 26-07-2013 19:15
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Jaro Marycz wasn`t even selected, from the beginning Nikolay Mihaylov was selected for the CCC squad.
+ no TdP for Maciej Bodnar - Salerno comes instead of Bodnar.
Edited by Maxvir on 26-07-2013 19:57
LMGKK Ziemia Brzeska
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| Cossack |
Posted on 26-07-2013 19:25
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issoisso wrote:
Indeed it will. The guide on the TV is wrong, the eurosport site says they will and that's more trustworthy
When checking Eurosport TV schedule, I only trust their website, as sometimes it's changed.
Also in TVP (Polish Public TV) Krzysztof Wyrzykowski will be a commentator. He has commented many cycling races for several years and is one of our best commentators, so I hope the commentary in TVP will be better than in previous years, but still probably it will be mainly directed to people who watch cycling once a year (during TdP). |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 27-07-2013 12:55
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Phinney brought his kids to the team presentation
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| Failured |
Posted on 27-07-2013 13:40
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Does anyone know when stage 1 goes live? |
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| Nin1388 |
Posted on 27-07-2013 13:47
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Will it be live on Eurosports? |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 27-07-2013 13:49
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Read on twitter it will be on Eurosport after San Sebastian but can't find it now
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