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Who is going to come second behind Froome
Jacdk
tyriion wrote:



The average placings of the top 7 in all TT (over 10 km in length) in 2012 and 2013. The worst placing is omitted from the calculation.

They all look well matched except Froome of course. And with Contador's current form he's a big question mark to me.


A good guess for the TT is

1: Froome
2: Porte
3: Valverde

6-10:Quintana
..........

10-15 Contador

Contador will probably loose around a min or around that to Froome on this TT,
 
samdiatmh
Jacdk wrote:
A good guess for the TT is

1: Froome
2: Porte
3: Valverde

6-10:Quintana
..........

10-15 Contador

Contador will probably loose around a min or around that to Froome on this TT,


not quite sure what you mean
can't see Contador dropping to 10th-15th in GC on a shortish flat TT
and then Martin will win it imo (referring to the stage 11 one)
Edited by samdiatmh on 09-07-2013 06:18
 
kyanto
I'm rooting for Quintana but think Valv takes 2nd place because of better TT results. Going to be close though
 
Jesleyh
Also, for the TT discussion,
Here's a list of average 10km+ TT results the top-riders had the last 2 years. (Worst time striped away for every rider)
https://twitter.c...76/photo/1
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tyriion
Jesleyh wrote:
Also, for the TT discussion,
Here's a list of average 10km+ TT results the top-riders had the last 2 years. (Worst time striped away for every rider)
https://twitter.c...76/photo/1


Look at the top of this page Wink

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Jesleyh
tyriion wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Also, for the TT discussion,
Here's a list of average 10km+ TT results the top-riders had the last 2 years. (Worst time striped away for every rider)
https://twitter.c...76/photo/1


Look at the top of this page Wink

Hopefully Mollema has a good day tomorrow

Shit. Grin
And yes, hope so.

Also, I think Froome's one is right as well. 17th in Crono des Nations, 39 Romandiƫ 2012, and a few 6th places get his average placing up, I guess.
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thechudude
What are the thoughts on Rodriguez so far?
 
Jacdk
thechudude wrote:
What are the thoughts on Rodriguez so far?


he seems to be saving himself for a repeat of last years Vuelta together with Contador.

After all there is more prestige for them to win their own grand tour than winning a french version of "how flat can we make a grand tour"
 
Pellizotti2
Looked awful this weekend, but I'll wait for Ventoux before making any major judgement.

I reckon he'll be two minutes behind Valverde and one behind Quintana after tomorrow. It's a lot of ground to make up in the Alps, but he's still in contention for a podium. That is as long as he really is peaking for the 3rd week, of course. I'm starting to think he might have declined a little bit since last season.
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Wilier
tyriion wrote:



The average placings of the top 7 in all TT (over 10 km in length) in 2012 and 2013. The worst placing is omitted from the calculation.

They all look well matched except Froome of course. And with Contador's current form he's a big question mark to me.



Judging by this Mollema could be able to win time on Valverde. It will be interesting to see the two go head-to-head.
Edited by Wilier on 09-07-2013 18:34
 
Spilak23
Mollema's number is badly influenced by the Suisse tt and last year's Pais Vasco tt.

Hard to find a flat tt were he went full gas though
 
Jesleyh
Spilak23 wrote:
Mollema's number is badly influenced by the Suisse tt and last year's Pais Vasco tt.

Hard to find a flat tt were he went full gas though

Same for Valverde's Vuelta TT Wink

Also, I'd like to know, why do people think Quintana is a good TTist? Profile tomorrow isn't technical and doesn't involve a lot of climbing.

F.e Jacdk thinks Quintana will finish 6-10th, before Contador. I can't see it happening, unless tomorrow's TT is technical and I missed that Pfft
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Wilier
Spilak23 wrote:
Mollema's number is badly influenced by the Suisse tt and last year's Pais Vasco tt.

Hard to find a flat tt were he went full gas though


The same goes for Valverde. I think they'll be pretty equal, unless one of them has a bad day.
 
thechudude
I do think Mollema is very underrated. Hes not getting much attention from the media. Its all about Quintana, Valverde and Contador. Even Dave Brailsford said he was only worried about those two teams
 
Strydz
thechudude wrote:
I do think Mollema is very underrated. Hes not getting much attention from the media. Its all about Quintana, Valverde and Contador. Even Dave Brailsford said he was only worried about those two teams


It is all down to riding style and results, these guys are a lot more exciting to watch so get the attention
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thechudude
Its come down to the last day with still a couple of riders in contention for 2nd. I think Quintana will get 2nd ahead of Contador!
 
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Strydz wrote:
thechudude wrote:
I do think Mollema is very underrated. Hes not getting much attention from the media. Its all about Quintana, Valverde and Contador. Even Dave Brailsford said he was only worried about those two teams


It is all down to riding style and results, these guys are a lot more exciting to watch so get the attention


Turns out they're just plain better too Pfft
 
ianrussell
I know he's less likely than Quintana but this poll is a great indication of how quick we all are (me included) to write someone off, Purito with 0 votes Grin
 
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