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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:01
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
For me, Nibali is the symbol of the new, clean Italy! (oh I really hope this comment won't be quoted in 2 weeks because he had been caught doping  ) 
Nibali, riding for the squeaky clean team of Astana, managed by the ever so clean mr. Vinokourov. Both team & manager never had any incidents... I trust them completely!
Also: Nibali, known Ferrari client
Aawwww
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| tastasol |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:05
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Call me naive, but I don't like to judge riders. Easier for me to enjoy the cycling then. Even though he was convicted, I still believe that many are judging riders very fast.
Ps! I wonder why everyone give me the nickname tasta based on tastasol  (ref. you and PCMNorge).
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| Setzel |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:08
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Tuscany labs stopped performing ?
Damn Ballan is scared now
Eating my daily Breakfast at 9 pm
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| dienblad |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:13
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So 2 Vini Fantini riders caught.... Coincedence, or not? Well, according to the response of the team management after Di Luca got recaught (they were pretty furious), I tend to believe that these aren't the only 2 of the team... And now it is clear why Santabrogio had a weak 2nd part of the Giro, he probably ran out of Epo / the positive effect of epo was over.
Stupid prick, lifetime ban please!!
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| pcm2009fan |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:18
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tastasol wrote:
Call me naive, but I don't like to judge riders. Easier for me to enjoy the cycling then. Even though he was convicted, I still believe that many are judging riders very fast.
Or, easiest of all, accept that the top band of endurance riders in the sport all use products of some form and enjoy the show regardless. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:18
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tastasol wrote:
Call me naive, but I don't like to judge riders. Easier for me to enjoy the cycling then. Even though he was convicted, I still believe that many are judging riders very fast.
Ps! I wonder why everyone give me the nickname tasta based on tastasol (ref. you and PCMNorge).
It's a good thing to be critical rather than taking anything you see and hear for good. |
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| tastasol |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:21
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@CT: A limit both ways..
@2009: Something like that, yes 
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| Montolivo |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:22
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pcm2009fan wrote:
tastasol wrote:
Call me naive, but I don't like to judge riders. Easier for me to enjoy the cycling then. Even though he was convicted, I still believe that many are judging riders very fast.
Or, easiest of all, accept that the top band of endurance riders in the sport all use products of some form and enjoy the show regardless.
I agree on this one. People talking like cycling is clean, but i have my doubts. More or less every one in the top ten of a GT will be on doping. |
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| ppanther |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:24
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dienblad wrote:
I tend to believe that these aren't the only 2 of the team... And now it is clear why Santabrogio had a weak 2nd part of the Giro, he probably ran out of Epo / the positive effect of epo was over.
I rather think he did a Landis and flushed his bloodbag down the toilette, because he got scared of the Di Luca positive. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:26
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ppanther wrote:
dienblad wrote:
I tend to believe that these aren't the only 2 of the team... And now it is clear why Santabrogio had a weak 2nd part of the Giro, he probably ran out of Epo / the positive effect of epo was over.
I rather think he did a Landis and flushed his bloodbag down the toilette, because he got scared of the Di Luca positive.
He had his worst days before Di Luca was taken out.
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| ppanther |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:32
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After the rest day, so i am pretty sure he didn't use his bloodbag there. Maybe the team knew the positive early, or it was getting too obvious...
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:38
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Montolivo wrote:
pcm2009fan wrote:
tastasol wrote:
Call me naive, but I don't like to judge riders. Easier for me to enjoy the cycling then. Even though he was convicted, I still believe that many are judging riders very fast.
Or, easiest of all, accept that the top band of endurance riders in the sport all use products of some form and enjoy the show regardless.
I agree on this one. People talking like cycling is clean, but i have my doubts. More or less every one in the top ten of a GT will be on doping.
And unlike most other sports we know it and can still enjoy watching the best do their best for a full three weeks!
You either ban it completely and put almost limitless resources to making sure it is 100% clean or you accept doping and watch them sprint up a mountain at 40km/h
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:38
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I knew it, I **** knew it, what an asshole, stupid Santambrogio. Everyone could see it, he never had any good results in mountainstages and all of a sudden he was following Nibali like it's nothing. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:39
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Most likely, he stopped with the EPO when he was tested just a few hours after taking the dose (only way to be caught) and saw he might be screwed, so as the Giro went on the effect of the pre-Giro dose faded.
ruben wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
And those guys give Italy a bad name once again 
For me, Nibali is the symbol of the new, clean Italy! (oh I really hope this comment won't be quoted in 2 weeks because he had been caught doping )
Nibali, riding for the squeaky clean team of Astana, managed by the ever so clean mr. Vinokourov. Both team & manager never had any incidents... I trust them completely!
Or not
A lot worse: Martinelli as team manager, Andreazzoli and Uliari as team doctors...it's a who's who of organized doping
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Santambrogio is like Sky: so goddamn obvious that only a fanboy would deny it. Whenever it's been this obvious, there has ALWAYS been drugs involved in the end. Always.
In Sky's defense, i doubt they are using EPO
They might be. It's not as "catchable" as you might think
Edited by issoisso on 03-06-2013 17:39
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:42
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"It's the end of our project," Scinto said
This is what's so bad about it.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:45
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Project what? Vini Fantini is over? Lol at their manager. Santambrogio probably got tested when he won the stage and he knew he would get caught, so he stopped the dose. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:57
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Meanwhile
Some british guy is a candidate for UCI president against McDope. He has the support of the MFCC, but hasn't announced any policies yet
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| dev4ever |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:58
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This one striked down badly. A new generation has begun ? Doubt so
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 03-06-2013 17:59
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issoisso wrote:
Meanwhile
Some british guy is a candidate for UCI president against McDope. He has the support of the MFCC, but hasn't announced any policies yet
Ahh, that's why Sir Bradley won't race Le Tour.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 03-06-2013 18:06
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The election will be dirty anyway and McQuaid will win. |
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