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| Anderis |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:12
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Hesjedal and Talansky lost over 3 minutes. I hope Dan turns out to be stronger than them, so the loss is not that painful.
At least they can ride agrresively from the first mountain stage now. |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:13
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So tomorrow the stage will finish in La Zubia.
Will be very interesting. There's so many strong guys in this vuelta.
Aru, Kelderman, Evans, D. Martin, Barguil, Purito, Moreno, Piti, Quintana, Poels, Urán, Cháves, Froome and Contador to name a few.
Edited by Wilier on 27-08-2014 17:19
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:13
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Talansky and Hesjedal were definitely in the third group (that became the second when the two at the front merged)
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:16
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But there were like 5 Garmin riders in that 2nd group before the merger, and only 2 came out. it makes no sense.
Talansky was always domestiqing, but Hesjedal is over too. However now they can be aggressive and have a really powerful backing team I guess.
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:17
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Kelderman up another place in the GC and also Gesink in the top 10 now. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:21
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Apparently Craddock didn't finish, so now I'm wondering WTF happened.
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| Anderis |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:21
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baseballlover312 wrote:
But there were like 5 Garmin riders in that 2nd group before the merger, and only 2 came out. it makes no sense.
It makes sense. They were sent back to help Hesjedal. With 4 minutes down in GC he can still make top10 at the end. If they had left him alone, he could lose something like 10 minutes instead of 3 and don't pretend it doesn't make any difference.
Maybe Cardoso is going for GC because he wasn't sent back. Or maybe he stayed with Martin just in case. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:27
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Anderis wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
But there were like 5 Garmin riders in that 2nd group before the merger, and only 2 came out. it makes no sense.
It makes sense. They were sent back to help Hesjedal. With 4 minutes down in GC he can still make top10 at the end. If they had left him alone, he could lose something like 10 minutes instead of 3 and don't pretend it doesn't make any difference.
Maybe Cardoso is going for GC because he wasn't sent back. Or maybe he stayed with Martin just in case.
I'm not pretending anything. We're on the same team here, no need to get hostile.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:28
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Apparently Craddock didn't finish, so now I'm wondering WTF happened.
Good day on the office, heh? |
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| b3n3v3nt3 |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:32
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I'm not so sure that Hesjedal can still make top10. He hasn't been that great in ITT (the same goes for Martin). But anything can happen I guess, there's still lots of Vuelta ahead. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:32
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Riis123 wrote:
Arredondo surely lost time today, dno how much.
Edit: Also Van de Broeck and De Clerq who apparantly was supposed to be leader, now only Monfort left. Add those four names to Kudus, Betancur, Yates, Pinot, Cunego, Dennis who are out of the GC as well.
Also Talansky, Elissonde and Hesjedal lost over 3 minutes today. Hesjedal was probably one of the few of those I have mentioned who realistically hoped to make the top-10 |
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| Nin1388 |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:32
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Anderis wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Then who were the other Garmin guys?
Only Martin and Cardoso in the first group.
Garmin is a a team without plan. We know their strategy. Since beginning, they would throw in Hesjedal, Danielson, Valdervalde, Wiggins at GT and one of them would finish in top 10 and others will finish badly. This year at tour they took 1 leader in Talansky and screwed up bad. Now they are back to basic with Talansky, Hesjedal and Dan, you can say. Dan Martin should move to team like Sky if he wants to be good stage racer, because I see he has potential. |
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| Anderis |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:32
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baseballlover312 wrote:
I'm not pretending anything. We're on the same team here, no need to get hostile.
There's no hostility.
But I think my explanation is logical so I don't feel good being forced to repeat it twice. 
Hesjedal's GC hopes were not over at the moment when two groups merged and he needed the help of his team-mates. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:35
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My question is how Garmin let things like this repeatedly happen. A major contender like Hesjedal cannot be at the back there while this is happening.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:35
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Apparently Craddock didn't finish, so now I'm wondering WTF happened.
Are you sure about that? Maybe he just had a bike change. Spare bikes don't have transponders. |
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:37
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Tommorow should be an interesting one I hope the climb would be too steep for Sky train to control(even though it won't happen  ) And finally I'll see two things:
1)How bad Contador really is (in the name of concurrence not too bad )
2)Is PCM daily right to give Froome more mountains than Quintana (this will probably decide the winner of la Vuelta) |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:37
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b3n3v3nt3 wrote:
I'm not so sure that Hesjedal can still make top10. He hasn't been that great in ITT (the same goes for Martin). But anything can happen I guess, there's still lots of Vuelta ahead.
I agree, this is not the Giro d' Italia. I highly doubt that Hesjedal will make any noise in the top-10 unless he get a few minutes in some break, and even then, I dont think he can make it. The stage profiles of long flat and a relatively short, steep climb doesn't seem to favour him |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:40
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Wilier wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Apparently Craddock didn't finish, so now I'm wondering WTF happened.
Are you sure about that? Maybe he just had a bike change. Spare bikes don't have transponders.
I guess. I was just looking at the results.
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| Anderis |
Posted on 27-08-2014 17:42
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baseballlover312 wrote:
My question is how Garmin let things like this repeatedly happen. A major contender like Hesjedal cannot be at the back there while this is happening.
They don't learn anything.
This is really annoying because Vaughters claims GC of stage races is the team's main focus this and next year. But they can't get their act toghether for something like 8th GT in the row. The last time they did a good job with protecting their leader and their strongest rider finished the race without troubles was Giro 2012.
Hesjedal is well known for riding at the back, though. He was lucky to secure a top10 overall that way in TdF 2010. |
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 27-08-2014 18:02
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Wilier wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Apparently Craddock didn't finish, so now I'm wondering WTF happened.
Are you sure about that? Maybe he just had a bike change. Spare bikes don't have transponders.
I guess. I was just looking at the results.
Spare bike seems to be the case...
Also Bilbao is still missing???
EDIT: Both are in the GC now, not in the stage results tho.
Edited by fjhoekie on 27-08-2014 18:05
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