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| issoisso |
Posted on 27-06-2013 17:29
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Ian Butler wrote:
issoisso wrote:
XxMillad24Xx wrote:
Contador will beat Froome. The pure talent that he carries doesn't just go away
If that were true, Eddy Merckx would be the major favorite for this Tour.
People get older. He's been at the top for 7 years, it's time to fade. The human body can't handle more.
Imagine that. All the talent still riding around, we'd have an amazing battle with Hinault, Merckx, Van Impe, Kübler, Bohamontes... 
81 Hinault vs 69 Merckx vs 84 Fignon vs 51 Koblet vs 58 Gaul. Go.
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He will wear the green jersey all the time, so that is no problem, for now 
Only if Sagan is wearing yellow.
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| ThVoets |
Posted on 27-06-2013 17:31
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 27-06-2013 19:24
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Sorry, I really don't value 8 domestiques much over 7.
Loook at the lineup of this years Tour. It's not like they have a realstic chance at a podium. Don't forget that I am a Garmin fanboy as a whole. Unless they want KOM with Martin, going for team or something, they aren't winnning anything. Taking one less mediocre domestique for the ride isn't a big loss.
You might not value an extra domestique but when someone crashes and may be forced to retire which is likely at the Tour, Vaughters will be glad he brought an extra helper.
Even if Farrar was at his old form, I think the same decision might have been made. This is one of the biggest years for Garmin, because they have 3 potential Top 10 riders and Ryder is not getting any younger. He's got a good shot at doing something big this year and he might actually finish higher on some mountain stages than Farrar could even on the flats.
Lets also take that "mediocre domestique" thing back a bit. Imo, Garmin have one of the best teams in the race, on the whole and a lot of climbing talent as well. I'd go as far as saying each and every rider can ride mountains pretty well other than Bauer.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 27-06-2013 19:28
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valverde321 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Sorry, I really don't value 8 domestiques much over 7.
Loook at the lineup of this years Tour. It's not like they have a realstic chance at a podium. Don't forget that I am a Garmin fanboy as a whole. Unless they want KOM with Martin, going for team or something, they aren't winnning anything. Taking one less mediocre domestique for the ride isn't a big loss.
You might not value an extra domestique but when someone crashes and may be forced to retire which is likely at the Tour, Vaughters will be glad he brought an extra helper.
Even if Farrar was at his old form, I think the same decision might have been made. This is one of the biggest years for Garmin, because they have 3 potential Top 10 riders and Ryder is not getting any younger. He's got a good shot at doing something big this year and he might actually finish higher on some mountain stages than Farrar could even on the flats.
Lets also take that "mediocre domestique" thing back a bit. Imo, Garmin have one of the best teams in the race, on the whole and a lot of climbing talent as well. I'd go as far as saying each and every rider can ride mountains pretty well other than Bauer.
Exactly my point on your lasts sentence. I'm not talking about guys like Danielson, VandeVelde, Dennis. I'm talking about Bauer.
Also, I'm not sure where your "3 top 10" riders come from. Hesjedal is almost a shoe in. Maybe Martin. I find it hard to see Talansky making a top 10 in the Tour right now.
I'm just mad because now I have no one to root for in the sprints. 
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 27-06-2013 19:32
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Navardauskas in Giro form will probably get the same results in sprints as Farrar would have anyway
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 27-06-2013 19:44
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Spilak23 wrote:
Navardauskas in Giro form will probably get the same results in sprints as Farrar would have anyway \
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 27-06-2013 19:54
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You don't think Navardauskas can take multiple top 10 placings?
Or do you think that Farrar would have won multipe stages?
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 27-06-2013 20:17
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Spilak23 wrote:
You don't think Navardauskas can take multiple top 10 placings?
Or do you think that Farrar would have won multipe stages?
No, I do not think Navardauskus can top 10 on flat sprinter's stages in the Tour de France.
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| ziga007 |
Posted on 28-06-2013 07:20
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67 KESSIAKOFF Fredrik Carl Wilhelm SWE
68 LUTSENKO Alexey KAZ
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 28-06-2013 07:31
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issoisso wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
issoisso wrote:
XxMillad24Xx wrote:
Contador will beat Froome. The pure talent that he carries doesn't just go away
If that were true, Eddy Merckx would be the major favorite for this Tour.
People get older. He's been at the top for 7 years, it's time to fade. The human body can't handle more.
Imagine that. All the talent still riding around, we'd have an amazing battle with Hinault, Merckx, Van Impe, Kübler, Bohamontes...
81 Hinault vs 69 Merckx vs 84 Fignon vs 51 Koblet vs 58 Gaul. Go.
Would be an amazing battle.
But 69 Merckx, before his accident on the track, is unbeatable I think |
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| juszta |
Posted on 28-06-2013 07:36
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ziga007 wrote:
ASTANA PRO TEAM (AST)
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62 BAZAYEV Assan KAZ
63 FUGLSANG Jakob DEN
64 GASPAROTTO Enrico ITA
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Aaand obviously that means nothing. Fuglsang is still the leader... |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 28-06-2013 08:36
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Personally I think the most important thing for this Tour is right now in the first week. Corsica's roads are very dangerous. Will any contenders crash? I'm especially thinking of this guy as he's a very bad bike handler, but could happen to anyone
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 28-06-2013 08:41
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Isso, Froome will crash tomorrow and loose 5 minutes. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 28-06-2013 08:48
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Let's say it like this:
You can easily lose the Tour in the first week.
You have to win the Tour in the last week.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 28-06-2013 10:16
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Froome looking more anorexic as ever on that pic. No doubt he's 'prepared' well. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 28-06-2013 10:19
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Miguel98 wrote:
Isso, Froome will crash tomorrow and loose 5 minutes.
Actually that would make for an interesting race! Because Sky would then have to come out and do something. Froome would have to go on the attack, and that would be awesome to watch
@Ian
I recall Wiggins gaining yellow on stage 7 then never losing another second from then
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 28-06-2013 10:28
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I meant on this Tour's profile. You won't win the Tour in the first week, but in the last  |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 28-06-2013 11:26
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I've seen a stick figure fatter than Frommester. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 28-06-2013 11:27
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I thought riders health came first. I hope the medical examination will conclude he's anorexic and should go home eat something instead of taking in such an exhausting event as Tour de France.
Not gonna happen any day soon though... |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 28-06-2013 11:30
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I agree with Aquarius. Every single Sky rider is so fuckin' skinny. I remember that picture from Wiggo from last season where his legs looked like bones and skin, nothing else. |
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