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| trekbmc |
Posted on 13-02-2015 19:53
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Wait, what, I'm hopelessly confused now. 
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 15-02-2015 02:17
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Will we get to see everyones stats after this season?
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 16-02-2015 12:19
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Jakstar22 wrote:
Will we get to see everyones stats after this season?
No, I want people to figure out the game themselves by trail and error, not by seeing how other successful manager's got their cyclists to the top.
And yes, I know I can see the stats, obviously. However, I'm not studying them (or even remember a majority of them for that matter) after I update everyone's stat after each week.
By my estimation though, I'd say 95% of the head-to-heads were won by the cyclist with the better stats. (Since I do a quick glance before simulating). If that makes you feel any better.
Semi-Finals coming up soon. Stay tuned.
Edited by Mresuperstar on 16-02-2015 12:19
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 16-02-2015 12:32
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Season 1 : Semi-Finals
39kms Hilly RR ( Canada)
1  Lukas Wildauer (11-5) Vs. 2  Shaquille Sinclair (10-6)
Spoiler | 1 | Lukas Wildauer | SportingNonsense | 48'22 | | 2 | Shaquille Sinclair | fjhoekie | s.t. |
1  Plusvite de la Lumiere (11-5) Vs. 2  Peter Pal (11-5)
Spoiler | 1 | Peter Pal | jaxika | 47'14 | | 2 | Plusvite de la Lumiere | matt17br | s.t. |
Finals: 46.5kms Mountain RR ( France)
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| matt17br |
Posted on 16-02-2015 12:37
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Nawwwww, so close, so close 
I guess Pal has got a 85+ sprint stat because the sprint is definitely not Plusvite's biggest flaw 
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 16-02-2015 12:43
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@Matt17br: The French spectators are upset that their rider won't be challenging for the Championship on home soil. Always tough to lose in the Semis.
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| jaxika |
Posted on 16-02-2015 13:14
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Wow ... im impressed ... really .. i never thought this ... yupiii  |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 16-02-2015 17:02
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Great to make the final! 
Unfortunately I was quite hoping for Plusvite to win his Semi, since Pal had already beaten Wildauer once on the Mountains this season, so I'm not too confident of going all the way!
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| jaxika |
Posted on 16-02-2015 20:56
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Great to make the final!
Unfortunately I was quite hoping for Plusvite to win his Semi, since Pal had already beaten Wildauer once on the Mountains this season, so I'm not too confident of going all the way!
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 17-02-2015 03:09
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Season 1 : Final
46.5kms Mountain RR ( France)
1 Lukas Wildauer (12-5) Vs. 2 Peter Pal (12-5)
The Season 1 Head to Head Champion Is ...
Spoiler | 1 | Lukas Wildauer | SportingNonsense | 1h22'17 | | 2 | Peter Pal | jaxika | s.t. |
Thanks everyone for a great season! Hopefully the first of many.
We now enter the offseason as the cyclists rest up and changes are made.
New faces brought in, new races and new strategies to test out.
The first step is setting the foundation: Adding new rules and regulations.
Also confirming which cyclists want to continue for next season.
To secure your place for next season either:
A. Comment below with suggestions you have to make this better.
B. Don't have any? Then give a recap of your cyclist's season.
Don't want to continue? Just say so or you will automatically be
forced to retire if you don't reply on the thread within 72 hours.
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 17-02-2015 03:48
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Wow. Congrats to SN and Wildauer, and everyone else who participated.
Tbh I think a new level of involvement would be nice, but I get that wouldbe difficult to implement. Also the previously discussed 3D racing would be great.
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 17-02-2015 04:59
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Definitely Coming Back Next Season!!!
Makes me feel better for losing to Wildauer. Kind of knew (in a way) that he would win.
Had a much better season then I was hoping for, making the finals was a great achievement. Although that TT really killed me, despite all my training for it. Apart from that I had a great time and met some great new people. So see you all next year!
Now I just need them to let Pierre Join...
Thanks, Sylvain
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| jaxika |
Posted on 17-02-2015 05:54
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Congrats to SN and Wildauer, it was a great pleasure and battle. See you next year hopefully |
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 17-02-2015 06:09
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Congrats Sporting Nonsense! Hopefully Mitch Thompson can come back from retirement one day
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| matt17br |
Posted on 17-02-2015 10:02
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How wouldn't I come back?
This a great concept as always, great idea Mre!
Firstly, congrats to SN for creating the most balanced rider and thus winning the game!
Then I'd like to know if all the stats will be resetted at the start of the next year?
If I should really give a suggestion to make this better, I'd balance the races better. For example, we've only had 2 cobbled h2h, (and 1 of them even was an odd individual time trial), in front of 5 ITTs, 6 hilly ones (1 of them was a tt), 3 mountainous ones, 7 flat ones (3 of them were tts).
In this way, certain types of riders will be naturally advantaged by the head to heads nature and theoretically that's the reason why some riders did so bad this year. Therefore, in my honest opinion, you should reform the calendar's structure. As in real life, the hilly stages should be the dominating ones, then the sprints, the tts, and finally the cobbles and the mountains at the same level.
Roughly the regular season would look like this:
5 hilly ones (at least one of them should be a tt)
4 sprints (at least one of them should be a tt)
3 mountains (1 of them as a tt)
3 cobbles (and here I'd like to have Paris-Roubaix, Tour of Flanders and a 3rd one with not that much cobbles but a reasonable amount at least, possibly no cobbled tts though)
And here's what I'd like to see at the playoffs:
A flat TT as quarter finals, just like this year;
A hilly RR as semi finals, just like this year and...;
A fuckin' beasty mix of some of the specialities
Basically a mountainous cobbled tt, but I wouldn't actually know where to find it tbh
Well, in the end, that's all up to you. I will enjoy the next season as much as I did with this one for sure! Good luck Mre
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 17-02-2015 10:10
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As in real life, the hilly stages should be the dominating ones, then the sprints, the tts, and finally the cobbles and the mountains at the same level.
No idea what reality you are in but Sprints are the dominant stage type in pro cycling (equaly there are more mountains that TT's i'd say). Though i do think a slight rebalancing of the calendar would be good. Another CB RR and a 1-2 more races over 200km to make use of the STA stat would be all that's needed i think.
Not sure if 3D racing would make a big difference, but i do think ITT's should be done in whatever way the final regular-season one was done because it gave the best results.
The play-offs are tricky. You kind of need a TT, Hills, Mountains, Cobbles and Sprint rolled into three races. Flat TT QF seems ok. I'd go with MO as SF and then... Flat 200+km SP Final i guess over cobbles or hills because it would require more high stats and reward the overall better rider
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 17-02-2015 10:13
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Awesome.  No wins in the Mountains until it mattered most, my plan for the season played out perfectly - with a little luck along the way, of course.
Wildauer will of course aim to defend the title. It's been a very nicely paced first season and I really enjoy the tactical nature of the game, so great job Mre. Will be fun to plan with 125 stats to start with - compared to 110 for the other quarter finalists and 100 for the rest. It might give me a good advantage initially, but the additions of 10 for match losers should wipe that out soon enough.
One obvious improvement would be for TTs to be simmed with all 16 riders, and then separated into their head to heads from the results. I think this could fix the weird gaps issue.
I completely disagree with matt's suggestion of making the calendar more uniform though. I think it is part of the challenge and fun of the stats selections that the spread of route types is uneven. I would like to see a different route dynamic in Season 2 compared to Season 1 though.
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 17-02-2015 10:29
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SportingNonsense wrote:
I completely disagree with matt's suggestion of making the calendar more uniform though. I think it is part of the challenge and fun of the stats selections that the spread of route types is uneven. I would like to see a different route dynamic in Season 2 compared to Season 1 though.
Of course you disagree, you won. jks
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| matt17br |
Posted on 17-02-2015 10:51
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TheManxMissile wrote:
No idea what reality you are in but Sprints are the dominant stage type in pro cycling (equaly there are more mountains that TT's i'd say).
Nah, that's true if you count the stage races as well. But I bet half a pcm$ that the classics are mostly hilly.
Also, yes, of course there are more mountains than tts, but I wasn't saying that there are more tts than mountains irl. I was intending that for balancing sake we'd need to have at least 4/5 tts in the calendar, that is not that much compared to this year
I agree with all the other suggestions, especially with this :
Will be fun to plan with 125 stats to start with - compared to 110 for the other quarter finalists and 100 for the rest. It might give me a good advantage initially, but the additions of 10 for match losers should wipe that out soon enough.
125 for the winner is perfect to me. But I'd say that 120 for the finalist, 115 for the semifinalists and 110 for the quarter finalists is even better
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 17-02-2015 17:42
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The best rider won, he even managed to beat me twice! Still quite pleased with getting this far, but I had hopes for more to be honest. My blitz-start worked initially, but backfired in the final few weeks.
But who cares? I'm still the only person who has beaten Hayley two times! Guess she likes me, I mean, she should be strong enough to beat everyone here...
I'll head back to Jamaica for a couple of weeks now, time to bake in the sun and get energized for the next season.
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