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AiZaK
I think the more realistic:
Froome 83
Quintana 82
Purito 81
Valverde 80/81

In Hills, I like your stats:
Purito 80
Gilbert 80
Valverde 80

Someone say Purito in Hills 81, but Valverde were the best in Ardenes Classics: 2º in Amstel, 3º in Liege, 7º in Fleche Wallonne
 
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I'd say Froome 83, Quintana 82, Rodriguez 80, Valverde 80, Contador, Kreuziger, Mollema, Porte 79, Talansky 78, Ten Dam 77.
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Alakagom
Spilak23 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
It's likely both Froome and Quintana will have 83.


If you put Froome and Quintana at the same, Quintana should overtake Froome very fast because he should improve much quicker no?


That's true, I'll be sticking to the first 'draft' then with Quintana at 82.
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baseballlover312
Also, make sure to use the fighter stat so a rider will attack more or less. f.e. Wiggins should have 50. Quintana should have high.
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mat4404
AiZaK wrote:
I think the more realistic:
Froome 83
Quintana 82
Purito 81
Valverde 80/81

In Hills, I like your stats:
Purito 80
Gilbert 80
Valverde 80

Someone say Purito in Hills 81, but Valverde were the best in Ardenes Classics: 2º in Amstel, 3º in Liege, 7º in Fleche Wallonne


I thin Purito is better on hills in Tours but Valverde in one days. So I'd give Valverde high stamina, but slightly lower hill.

Valverde Hil 80 Sta 79
Purito Hil 81 Sta 76
 
baseballlover312
mat4404 wrote:
AiZaK wrote:
I think the more realistic:
Froome 83
Quintana 82
Purito 81
Valverde 80/81

In Hills, I like your stats:
Purito 80
Gilbert 80
Valverde 80

Someone say Purito in Hills 81, but Valverde were the best in Ardenes Classics: 2º in Amstel, 3º in Liege, 7º in Fleche Wallonne


I thin Purito is better on hills in Tours but Valverde in one days. So I'd give Valverde high stamina, but slightly lower hill.

Valverde Hil 80 Sta 79
Purito Hil 81 Sta 76


I'd rather put that at 82/80. To make it 76 is way too low.
Edited by baseballlover312 on 23-07-2013 00:40
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canojuancho
ACC stat has some effect in mountain stages? because i think that Froome is the rider who accelerates stronger and faster than any other climber in my opinion you need to considerate that stat in all climbers.
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baseballlover312
canojuancho wrote:
ACC stat has some effect in mountain stages? because i think that Froome is the rider who accelerates stronger and faster than any other climber in my opinion you need to considerate that stat in all climbers.


It affects how fast you go when attacking.
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cio93
canojuancho wrote:
ACC stat has some effect in mountain stages? because i think that Froome is the rider who accelerates stronger and faster than any other climber in my opinion you need to considerate that stat in all climbers.


That's his full retard mode. Usually, he slowly works his way back. Wink
 
Ian Butler
cio93 wrote:
canojuancho wrote:
ACC stat has some effect in mountain stages? because i think that Froome is the rider who accelerates stronger and faster than any other climber in my opinion you need to considerate that stat in all climbers.


That's his full retard mode. Usually, he slowly works his way back. Wink


I wouldn't call it retard mode, since it get him the Tour win with quite some minutes to spare Wink
 
baseballlover312
Ian Butler wrote:
cio93 wrote:
canojuancho wrote:
ACC stat has some effect in mountain stages? because i think that Froome is the rider who accelerates stronger and faster than any other climber in my opinion you need to considerate that stat in all climbers.


That's his full retard mode. Usually, he slowly works his way back. Wink


I wouldn't call it retard mode, since it get him the Tour win with quite some minutes to spare Wink


Exactly why cio is right.
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canojuancho
well, yes, he slowly works his way back, but when he attacks he use a lot of ACC, his change of pace is awesome.
 
Kaimelar
Froome deserves high ACC but it would make him unbeatable in mountain top finish sprints (sprint stat doesn't matter in this case) which isn't realistic so I would leave him at mid 70~
 
Ian Butler
baseballlover312 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
cio93 wrote:
canojuancho wrote:
ACC stat has some effect in mountain stages? because i think that Froome is the rider who accelerates stronger and faster than any other climber in my opinion you need to considerate that stat in all climbers.


That's his full retard mode. Usually, he slowly works his way back. Wink


I wouldn't call it retard mode, since it get him the Tour win with quite some minutes to spare Wink


Exactly why cio is right.


So attacking on a mountain, shaking all competition and winning the Tour with 4'20" is retard mode?

Please explain this to me Pfft
 
Miguel98
Ian Butler wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
cio93 wrote:
canojuancho wrote:
ACC stat has some effect in mountain stages? because i think that Froome is the rider who accelerates stronger and faster than any other climber in my opinion you need to considerate that stat in all climbers.


That's his full retard mode. Usually, he slowly works his way back. Wink


I wouldn't call it retard mode, since it get him the Tour win with quite some minutes to spare Wink
.

Exactly why cio is right.


So attacking on a mountain, shaking all competition and winning the Tour with 4'20" is retard mode?

Please explain this to me Pfft


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Edited by Miguel98 on 22-07-2013 19:56
 
Spilak23
Retard mode:


 
Ian Butler
He won there. I still fail to see your point...

EDIT: or is that just about the way he looks when attacking? I thought it was mentally, as in stupid-decision moronic.
Edited by Ian Butler on 22-07-2013 19:59
 
issoisso


Froome went full retard. He shouldn't have.

In other words, he should've held back from showing his absolute top for 2 reasons:
1. It's a stage race. If you do that you fade at the end
2. He could've at least made his performances credible

And that's why we started saying he should've never gone full retard

EDIT: The original term comes from that fact that if you portray a realistically mentally handicapped person on a movie you won't win an oscar.

If you instead portray a slow but charismatic character that's nowhere near a realistic depiction of a retarded person...you'll probably win the oscar.

Sean Penn in I Am Sam was amazing. No Oscar because his character was realistically challenged and Hollywood only likes 'Inspirationally Challenged'
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Alakagom
Discussion is going off topic. Discuss this somewhere else please.
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issoisso
Alakagom wrote:
Discussion is going off topic. Discuss this somewhere else please.


Why do you hate movies?
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